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Newest MacBook Pro is the first MacBook not recommended by Consumer Reports

507 点作者 temp超过 8 年前

42 条评论

spilk超过 8 年前
Honestly to me the worst thing about the new MacBook Pro isn&#x27;t that there are no legacy ports on it or that the battery may be smaller, it&#x27;s that the new all-things-for-all-people ports it has are confusing.<p>The ports are all Thunderbolt 3 ports, which I believe by definition means they are USB 3.1 ports as well. But some devices out in the world have USB-C ports that are not Thunderbolt 3 compatible. No longer can you tell what sort of devices will work with a port by its physical shape. For instance, I have a Windows desktop machine with a single USB-C port on the back, but it&#x27;s not a Thunderbolt 3 port. So while I could physically plug in a Thunderbolt 3-only device, it wouldn&#x27;t function at all.<p>Thunderbolt 3 is backward compatible with Thunderbolt 1&#x2F;2 via an adapter, but the Thunderbolt 2 adapter that Apple sells does not function identically to a Thunderbolt 2 port on previous generation Macs - e.g. you cannot plug a Mini DisplayPort display into it. Thunderbolt displays do work with it though.<p>Also, the lower-end 12&quot; MacBook that Apple sells with a single USB-C port is NOT a Thunderbolt 3 port, so you have to know which devices that have identical connectors will work with it. Apple makes the distinction on its peripherals by screenprinting a little Thunderbolt logo onto the cable&#x2F;connector housing. The messaging was reinforced with corresponding Thunderbolt logos next to the connectors on previous iterations of the MacBooks - making it obvious that these ports were not just Mini DisplayPorts but also Thunderbolt ports - but the new 2016 models don&#x27;t appear to have anything like that on the hardware.<p>Additionally, there are USB-C cables and Thunderbolt 3 cables. Thunderbolt 3 cables are apparently higher-spec and will always work as USB-C cables, but the opposite is not necessarily true.
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mmjaa超过 8 年前
I&#x27;ve had mine for a week now, and have been able to use it alongside my late-2014 rMBP, which has been a solid workhorse. I&#x27;m starting to notice very subtle preferences for the 2017 model creeping in - after an hour of typing, for example, going back to the old keyboard feels really, really inefficient and antiquated, and my typing rate is lower than on the new rMBP.<p>I also really enjoy the Touchbar - it hasn&#x27;t been too intrusive, and binding ESCAPE to Caps Lock has been an acceptable re-configuration for me as a vim user.<p>Speed: okay, it seems slightly faster than the old machine, but then the old machine is 95% full while new-rMBP is not even 5% full yet, so .. no indexing hassles. (old-rMBP would often become unusable during Spotlight re-indexing..)<p>All in all, I&#x27;m happy with the upgrade - but with one huge big fat caveat: I didn&#x27;t buy it. My work did. If it weren&#x27;t for this fact, I&#x27;d be very reluctant to upgrade..
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duggan超过 8 年前
This is an article that (incompletely) summarizes the Consumer Reports article[1]. The reason for the wildly varying performance appears to be due to a bug (presumably) in Safari. They had consistent results with Chrome:<p>&gt; Once our official testing was done, we experimented by conducting the same battery tests using a Chrome browser, rather than Safari. For this exercise, we ran two trials on each of the laptops, and found battery life to be consistently high on all six runs.<p>I&#x27;ve been using a 13&quot; MacBook Pro (without Touch Bar) for six weeks now, and have found the battery life very impressive (I use Chrome rather than Safari).<p>[1]: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.consumerreports.org&#x2F;laptops&#x2F;macbook-pros-fail-to-earn-consumer-reports-recommendation&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.consumerreports.org&#x2F;laptops&#x2F;macbook-pros-fail-to-...</a>
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nilkn超过 8 年前
The only complaint I really have about the new MBP is the price. MBPs have always been expensive relative to the specs, and I&#x27;ve always been okay with that. But it seems Apple&#x27;s pushing their margins up even higher and have eliminated more affordable options (e.g., a 15&quot; model without a discrete GPU -- I personally have no need for the GPU, but really wanted the extra screen real estate).<p>After Apple Care and taxes, I ended up dropping over $3k on my 2016 15&quot; MBP. This makes it the most expensive laptop I&#x27;ve ever owned.<p>Just a few points that might be of interest:<p>* Battery life has legitimately been fine for me. I consistently get 8-10 hours of light work (working in the terminal and browser). Despite all the battery life complaints, this is actually the best battery life I&#x27;ve personally gotten on any MBP I&#x27;ve owned.<p>* I love the trackpad. It&#x27;s comically large, but I adapted fast, and the palm rejection has been working really well for me.<p>* The Touch Bar makes sense and is well-implemented. It&#x27;s not revolutionary and I wouldn&#x27;t recommend getting the laptop because it has the touch bar. But it&#x27;s a legitimate (if small) step forward in usability. It is not without its compromises (e.g., no physical escape key), but I&#x27;ve found I adapted to the compromises very quickly.<p>* The form factor is incredibly portable for a 15&quot; laptop.<p>* The port situation isn&#x27;t a big deal for me personally because I don&#x27;t use this laptop as a desktop replacement and rarely have any need for the ports.<p>* I&#x27;m fine with the keyboard. It&#x27;s very satisfyingly clicky, and I can type very fast on it, just as fast as any other keyboard. I wouldn&#x27;t say I prefer it to more traditional keyboards; it&#x27;s not a big deal to me either way.
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detaro超过 8 年前
The URL should be changed to <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.consumerreports.org&#x2F;laptops&#x2F;macbook-pros-fail-to-earn-consumer-reports-recommendation&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.consumerreports.org&#x2F;laptops&#x2F;macbook-pros-fail-to-...</a>, since this only reports on that.
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alberth超过 8 年前
71.8 watt-hour: 2013 13&quot; MacBook Pro [1]<p>49.2 watt-hour: 2016 13&quot; MacBook Pro Touch [2]<p>Why are so many people surprised that the battery life went down from ~10 hours down to ~7 hours?<p>When the physical battery size is only ~70% of the previous model, it&#x27;s no surprise the new MacBook Pro only gets ~7 hours of battery life.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.apple.com&#x2F;kb&#x2F;sp691?locale=en_US" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.apple.com&#x2F;kb&#x2F;sp691?locale=en_US</a><p>[2] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.apple.com&#x2F;macbook-pro&#x2F;specs&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.apple.com&#x2F;macbook-pro&#x2F;specs&#x2F;</a>
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en4bz超过 8 年前
For those looking for alternatives here&#x27;s a short video [1] that looks at some Windows based competitors in the same class. List below.<p>Dell XPS 15 - <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;amzn.to&#x2F;2hZjqpT" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;amzn.to&#x2F;2hZjqpT</a><p>Asus UX501 - <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;amzn.to&#x2F;2hLG9VW" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;amzn.to&#x2F;2hLG9VW</a><p>MSI GS63 - <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;amzn.to&#x2F;2ik00Zf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;amzn.to&#x2F;2ik00Zf</a><p>Gigabyte Aero14 - <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;amzn.to&#x2F;2ijMxk6" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;amzn.to&#x2F;2ijMxk6</a><p>Razer Blade - <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;amzn.to&#x2F;2hvyGHj" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;amzn.to&#x2F;2hvyGHj</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=NLsDn59fxdQ" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=NLsDn59fxdQ</a>
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otalp超过 8 年前
&gt; For instance, in a series of three consecutive tests, the 13- inch model with the Touch Bar ran for 16 hours in the first trial, 12.75 hours in the second, and just 3.75 hours in the third. The 13-inch model without the Touch Bar worked for 19.5 hours in one trial but only 4.5 hours in the next. And the numbers for the 15-inch laptop ranged from 18.5 down to 8 hours.<p>What could possibly the reason for such drastic variations in the same laptop, over a short period of time, when the testing conditions remain consistent?
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rayiner超过 8 年前
Saw a 15&quot; in the store the other day. It&#x27;s the future, just not this particular iteration. The form factor is awesome--my 15&quot; rMBP is like a boat in comparison. Make carrying a 15&quot; as a daily driver much more practical (and the extra screen space is a <i>big</i> step up from 13-14&quot; for getting work done).<p>The battery life will get fixed in successive iterations, I think. There is a ton more space in there for bigger batteries: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net&#x2F;igi&#x2F;cBFfrfQPrPBFgV1s" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net&#x2F;igi&#x2F;cBFfrfQPrPBFgV1s</a>. Compare to how packed the old 15&quot; is: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net&#x2F;igi&#x2F;Jxqp6l2cEQn4olWQ.huge" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net&#x2F;igi&#x2F;Jxqp6l2cEQn4olWQ.h...</a>.
sprite超过 8 年前
Good thing they removed the battery time remaining indicator. People will never notice. &#x2F;s
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pansen超过 8 年前
I was getting the MBP 2016 13&quot; a couple of days ago; best equipment you can buy in 13&quot;, 3300 EUR brutto.<p>Before (or still) I have a MBPR 13&quot; Late 2015, also with max RAM, max CPU; 2400 brutto until 2 months ago. That is still running on El Capitan, the new one Sierra of course. System was migrated, so simlilar software stack (besides the OS version).<p>My typical application list looks like: Pycharm, PHPStorm (~3 projects open at a time), Vagrant, Virtualbox, Chrome with many tabs, Firefox with less tabs, minor stuff like Sublime, Terminal windows, iTunes etc.<p>Besides the critics on keyboard (especially the arrows issue), connection ports (try to buy a good usb c - displayport cable), which i would all consider as &quot;managable&quot;.. To me this laptop is a bad joke if I see the battery time and performance.<p>Given my usage profile, which I think should be handled by the super expensive top model of a &quot;premium company&quot;, this laptop does only a minimum (if at all) better performance. The base cpu usage on my older one, having all open and doing nothing ist at 9%. Same thing for the newer one is 13%. There is nothing that works obviously faster, general &quot;snappyness&quot; when working is subjectively worse due to wakeup delays from the OS power optimisation magic.<p>About the battery time I can only say, that 4hours is max for me at ~80% brightness. I&#x27;m also sure that the new MBP drains battery faster, meaning has less runtime (though i cannot provide exact measurements).<p>As a good thing to say: the display is fantastic and of course it looks nice.<p>After less than a week this device is not worth its money and does nothing more for me than what I have for roughly 1&#x2F;3 less money and more than a year old.<p>It is sent back.
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outworlder超过 8 年前
Good.<p>The error of the MacBook Pro is the &#x27;Pro&#x27; part. It&#x27;s supposedly being marketed to professionals, but optimizing for one thing only, which is thinness. I don&#x27;t think anyone ever asked for the &quot;old&quot; MacBook Pro to be thinner. Maybe a beefier CPU, maybe a GPU worth something, maybe more battery life. Or more ports. But thinner? They used to have a very good product for that, and that&#x27;s the Air, which is now neglected.<p>Apple&#x27;s product lineup is a mess. Like the time after Steve got kicked out.<p>Disclaimer: typing this on a 2015 15&quot; MacBook Pro.
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timemachiner超过 8 年前
Mine is 15&quot;, 16GB, 512G, 455 model. I&#x27;m a student and use it for programming, checking emails and browsing sites. I program in Java using Eclipse and in Python using Jupyter Notebook. I browse using Safari and keep tabs of time estimates in the Activity Monitor Energy tab.<p>First 2-3 days I was getting 5 hour estimates. Since then it increased to 8-10 and now has increased to 14.5 hours. I keep it unplugged for 6 hours regularly and the estimates have been consistent thus far with the 14.5. I haven&#x27;t kept it unplugged more than 6-7 hours but I am not afraid of it running out of juice while I&#x27;m out and about. Suits my needs as a student.
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mgkimsal超过 8 年前
Had one for about 10 days, returned it for a variety of factors, but overall, it was a nice machine. But for my workload, I think I&#x27;ll move to a 2015 if I can get the config I want - should be ~ $1000 cheaper for about 95% of the benefit (some weight, some speed, retina screen, etc). $3700 ($3500 + tax) ended up feeling just a bit too much for the speed&#x2F;value. Apparently, though, if I wait a bit longer, we might see a 32g model next year?
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S_A_P超过 8 年前
I&#x27;m pretty disappointed by the new mbp and the state of Mac in general for several reasons. I&#x27;ve made pretty significant investments in the Mac ecosystem. I bought a semi pro sound card(uad Apollo 8) tons of software audio related plugins and logic and I don&#x27;t have a lot of confidence that when it&#x27;s time to replace my 2014 mbp that there will be a viable Mac option to replace it with. That immediately makes my sound card useless (thunderbolt connection) and unless there&#x27;s a Windows version of the plugins (most do have this) then I&#x27;m out that money as well. I&#x27;m already looking at having a dongle if I want to use the new mbp with a thunderbolt connection which feels like a hack. Maybe this seems like first world problems but I bought into Mac on the promise that they truly supported the &quot;pro&quot; community. It&#x27;s looking more and more like Tim Cook and company have forgotten that.
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api超过 8 年前
I&#x27;m calling it the MacBook Vista.<p>Ouch.<p>After seeing the touch bar, I think it&#x27;s really not all that useful. I would <i>much</i> rather have seen more battery, RAM, faster CPU options, traditional USB and HDMI, magsafe, and more SSD. Basically take the 2014-2015 MacBook Pro and beef it up and I will be very happy.<p>People say it&#x27;s selling. Of course it is. Mac still has a near-monopoly on &quot;Unix with good UI.&quot; But if they keep doing this, it will erode. Windows is becoming nicer in many ways, MS and other PC hardware is getting better, Linux desktop is steadily improving, etc. The ecosystem never stands still.
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Keyframe超过 8 年前
I went to a store in order to try one out. I wanted what was in 15&quot; model in a 13&quot; form, but ok - I went out to at least check out the 15&quot; model. Even though I knew it was too big for my needs. What really surprised me was how bad the keyboard was on new models. What&#x27;s up with that? It feels like a cheap plastic mockup of a keyboard. That turned me off completely. I hope they get their act together within a year and push out new models which are better. I&#x27;d buy a 13&quot; version if it had what 15&quot; has inside, but it doesn&#x27;t. Other laptops look like crap too. Razer (14) is either unavailable in Europe or reading about it and looking at videos makes it look like not suitable for anything - bad battery life and crappy vents (makes for screaming noise and heat down the road). Shame, what would otherwise be a great laptop. Microsoft&#x27;s Book thing is also semi-unavailable, can&#x27;t buy it (asked Microsoft, they&#x27;ve said it&#x27;s not really supported (retail) in Europe - wtf?), with Dell I had nothing but bad experiences so it&#x27;s a no-go from the start... situation is kind of dire.
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crazygringo超过 8 年前
&gt; The 13-inch model without the Touch Bar worked for 19.5 hours in one trial but only 4.5 hours in the next.<p>It worked for nearly <i>twenty hours</i>, when advertised for just &quot;up to 10&quot;?<p>Presumably whatever bugs led to 4.5 hours can be fixed in software updates (occasionally I find my Mac running at full-CPU due to some boneheaded OSX process).<p>But if my new laptop has a best-case scenario of nearly 20 hours (and not &quot;minimal brightness while not running anything&quot;)... then that&#x27;s the best recommendation I&#x27;ve heard yet.
heisenbit超过 8 年前
This is great news. Value for money is declining and someone needed to send a loud and clear message to Cupertino.
post_break超过 8 年前
I have one. It has usb c. My google pixel has usb c. They don&#x27;t talk, only charge. I don&#x27;t understand, USB C is now a bag of hurt. Especially when there are three types of usb c cables.
symfoniq超过 8 年前
A co-worker who upgraded last week to a 2016 MacBook Pro from a 2013 is complaining about battery life, too. He used to get 10+ hours and now he&#x27;s lucky to get six.
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blacktulip超过 8 年前
&gt; For instance, in a series of three consecutive tests, the 13- inch model with the Touch Bar ran for 16 hours in the first trial, 12.75 hours in the second, and just 3.75 hours in the third. The 13-inch model without the Touch Bar worked for 19.5 hours in one trial but only 4.5 hours in the next. And the numbers for the 15-inch laptop ranged from 18.5 down to 8 hours.<p>How could this happen? Did each test follow the same process?
DoodleBuggy超过 8 年前
Source minus the ads ads ads ads Business Insider ads ads ads ads regurgitation:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.consumerreports.org&#x2F;laptops&#x2F;macbook-pros-fail-to-earn-consumer-reports-recommendation&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.consumerreports.org&#x2F;laptops&#x2F;macbook-pros-fail-to-...</a>
ArlenBales超过 8 年前
I just got my new Macbook Pro 15&quot; a few days ago. Keyboard will take some time getting used to, but I&#x27;m still able to average 130 WPM on 10fastfingers.com.<p>The trackpad is probably going to take the longest for me to adapt to. Not the palm rejection, that works fine for me. Rather the tactile feedback of it is so different from my 2012 Macbook Pro. It&#x27;s very shallow and I feel like it should be used more like a touchscreen click (single tap to left click) rather than placing my finger on it and pressing into it, as the shallowness is weird to me. I have it on medium-depth click right.<p>Battery life isn&#x27;t too concerning to me since I&#x27;m mostly plugged in, but I will test it this weekend when I&#x27;m on the road and hope it&#x27;s at least 6 hours.<p>Also, why are all media outlets reporting on what Consumer Reports has to say? Why is Consumer Reports regarded so highly? Media outlets don&#x27;t report on what CNET or ArsTechnica have to say about the new MacBook Pro. It reminds me of media outlets reporting on what the BBB.org has to say.
pnw_hazor超过 8 年前
I have lost faith in Apple engineering.<p>My iPhone 6s is sketchy (e.g., lockups, shutdowns) whereas my iPhone 4s was bulletproof. And it seems the new MPBs are lame.<p>I just bought a Samsung 9 to hold me over for a year while I wait to see if Apple can get its act together.
karim79超过 8 年前
Just a random and wild thought: I wonder if the inconsistency in battery life might be related to variances in ambient noise levels in the test environment. Could it be Siri listening to stuff when it shouldn&#x27;t be by way of a bug or something else?<p>I have a maxed out 15 TB MBPro and the battery seems just fine and in line with what I expect. I love it: keyboard, screen, build quality, performance. I have literally worked with every single previous generation of the Pro and this one feels the best. Happy customer here.
SimeVidas超过 8 年前
R.I.P. Safari for Mac. Nobody is going to use you after this. ;-)
wolfgke超过 8 年前
Could the problem with the battery life be that Apple has the same power management issues for the Skylake processor (which is used on recent MacBook Pros) under OS X that plagued Microsoft for its Surface Book and Surface Pro 4 and also causes&#x2F;caused trouble under Linux (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mjg59.dreamwidth.org&#x2F;41713.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mjg59.dreamwidth.org&#x2F;41713.html</a>)?<p>BTW: Is this problem finally fixed under Linux?
datahack超过 8 年前
I have a 13&quot; macbook pro touchbar (~2500 bucks with warranty!). I&#x27;ve had it for about 4.5-5 weeks or so.<p>I LOVE my Apple laptops, and have NO problem paying a premium for them. They have been excellent, and every member of my family is outfitted wth an Apple computer. The IT distraction time since I switched everyone has been pretty much NIL.<p>I took it on a trip that was 16 days, or I would have returned it (14 day return policy). Now I&#x27;m thinking about dumping it on eBay.<p>Here is why:<p>* The battery life for a developer is terrible. I consistently get between 3-4 hours of battery life when developing, at best. It&#x27;s probably 2 hours less than my old 2013 Macbook Pro 15.<p>* The touchbar is not an improvement. I&#x27;m constantly hitting back in browsers as my hand is large and brushes against the bar. It has also crashed on me multiple times when watching long videos, which means I can&#x27;t mute or adjust the volume when someone calls (that&#x27;s when I find out it&#x27;s dusted itself). My experience is that it does a lot of accidental stuff because it exposes a lot of functionality that normally requires explicit input as casual input, so zooming around youtube videos and losing your spot, triggering Siri (yes, I turn it off eventually), accidentally muting with a simple touch, etc, are all super easy mistakes to make. I preferred it when my machine&#x27;s behavior was predictable. The major issue is that thus far there is no upside for this downside — there are no killer features for the bar (even the volume, rather than giving you more granular controls, uses the old sound register stop points rather than moving to a 99% scale as would be obviously intuitive given the interface — just plain dumb design from Apple honestly). Similar to my experiences with Siri, it&#x27;s not making my life better.<p>* It&#x27;s not faster in practical applications, and in fact takes a while to recover compared to my old laptop (a lot of waiting to type on the login screen), though it&#x27;s not particular noticeable.<p>* The arrow keys are utterly terrible. For a developer, they are a fail. Why Apple needed to kill those essential buttons (for games, dev, etc) is beyond my comprehension. The keyboard is definitely better, but the arrow key situation is a mess. * I have to keep my phone plugged in all the time, which means I have a dongle on my laptop pretty much permanently. This is dumb.<p>* The loss of the magsafe adapter has already caused my laptop to scoot right off the couch twice when animals and kids are around. Why? Why would you kill this and <i>especially</i> go back to a port than can be damaged with basic use? This just violates common sense.<p>What is better:<p>* The screen is sweet. I absolutely love it.<p>* The keyboard is awesome for touch typists.<p>* The touch pad is really the best I&#x27;ve ever used.<p>* The dark grey color is attractive.<p>I&#x27;ve also heard rumors that Apple has merged their macOS team into their main engineering &#x2F; iOS teams or some such. Not what I wanted to hear, and totally not the direction that would keep me loyal to the company.<p>Overall, it&#x27;s worse. And the features that have been added do not redeem the laptop (which is totally what almost every Apple device has done for me — I was stunned). This is the first time it&#x27;s genuinely a step in the wrong direction. Though I haven&#x27;t seen any discussion of it, I believe Apple made many of the mistakes it has made with the Apple watch on the Macbook Pro, but that may be because Apple added an Apple Watch to the Macbook Pro. It&#x27;s solving problems I don&#x27;t have, and therefore providing me with products that don&#x27;t possess essential utility and therefore don&#x27;t meaningfully improve my life or provide me with a &quot;sense of better being,&quot; which is what graduated design at it&#x27;s best can do. This is a big, big mistake, and exactly how Apple lost it&#x27;s way the first time around.
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ronyeh超过 8 年前
For people who want to improve their TouchBar experience, BetterTouchTool allows you to add custom buttons to your touch bar, accessible globally. I&#x27;ve been using it for weeks with great success. You can even change the buttons that show up when you have alt depressed, etc.
Razengan超过 8 年前
The new MacBooks have still outsold all other competitors, apparently:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;intelligence.slice.com&#x2F;apples-macbook-pro-launch&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;intelligence.slice.com&#x2F;apples-macbook-pro-launch&#x2F;</a>
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disposablezero超过 8 年前
No more MBPs for me unless Apple makes a significant U-turn. The unupgradability was the final straw.<p>MBP 13&quot; non-Retina mid-2012, 2x 960 GiB SSD, 16 GiB RAM
rememberlenny超过 8 年前
Do any MacBook Pro users like the ability to charge their machines with an external battery?
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threefour超过 8 年前
Let&#x27;s not forget when Consumer Reports attacked the iPhone 4 because of the antenna issue. That model went on to set sales records. If we&#x27;re looking for a signal about the MacBook Pro&#x27;s success, sales numbers may be a better indicator.
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omarforgotpwd超过 8 年前
Mine works fine. I love it.
dillondoyle超过 8 年前
I might as well shovel on my very negative experience, I want to switch but no one can make hardware like this... PLEASE someone prove me wrong with a link.<p>GOOD: - screen is amazingly bright and fantastic.<p>- sound noticeably better, even using the same headphones which does not make any sense, so I think that has got to be placebo?<p>The Horribleness: - the mouse touch pad is so big on my 15&quot; that my new default hand position on home has to hover and hands angled down and in. i&#x27;m resting like a few inches below my wrist on the edge of the machine, which is actually pretty sharp. If I go back to a better more relaxed home position my palms touch the touch pad randomly and when typing it jumps and clicks all around.<p>- I think Apple&#x27;s dedication to security is mostly to blame.<p>1) went to apple store, they didn&#x27;t have cases when the announced at end of Oct right?<p>2) had to get a usb c to usb female to use my external drives. The store only had usb 2.0 not 2.1, so my hd is half as fast as 3 year old laptop<p>3) - For instance did OS look at the machine? To turn down sound, I have to touch bar. In some apps it has the normal three sounds buttons. In finder it doesn&#x27;t and I&#x27;ve found some other times when I&#x27;m working and listening to music and need to turn it down it sucks: the touchbar might not even be lit, so that&#x27;s one touch. Then you can either touch mute or what looks like lower volume, which actually opens a slider two inches to the left. The slider seems to be 0-100 but on screen it&#x27;s the same old sound overlay with 15 clicks or whatever, and I can definitely move volume in between the clicks. Also while I was type that sentence both numbers accidentally hit the touch bar and did weird shit.<p>4) could go on and on, ESP the iphone thing. I get wireless is the future but come on...<p>5) I will never enable siri or the finger print. i was able to remove siri on finder, but it still pops up in the right for most other apps who haven&#x27;t made integrations yet.<p>6) os seems to sleep or hibernate but then when logging in it refreshes all the apps? like all 20 chrome tabs reload? maybe there&#x27;s some setting I don&#x27;t have but that has never happened and is very annoying. And 1&#x2F;10 times I miss backspace it hits siri or whatever shit is on the bar.<p>7) no space above up and down key is the WORST. gamers are fucked. even my career using photoshop and writing shit is slowed down until I get muscle memory.<p>In the past everything has been so seamless, ready to go. But I think Apple is more concerned about a leak about the new millimeter they shaved off than get everyone working on the same team and actually using this product, with os, with iphone.<p>(plus these keys are really loud when you type somewhat fast, to the annoyance of my boyfriend trying to sleep next to me).<p>I can&#x27;t WAIT until we get fast enough reliable internet everywhere so I can just stream a VPC in Amazon. Spin up a few Teslas when crunching a huge ML dataset or video project, no need to upgrade. AND Apple could do away with everything! So thin! Or quadruple the battery! That&#x27;s the future I want, even if Apple controls the DC and my VPC.
davidf18超过 8 年前
This very thorough review: See under &quot;Battery Runtime&quot;<p>&quot;Even though the battery capacity was reduced by almost 25 % compared to the predecessor, Apple still managed to improve the overall runtimes with the 76-Wh battery. Our WiFi test determines an advantage of 130 minutes, so little more than two hours.&quot; [1]<p>If you read actual users of the 2016 rMBP in this thread as well as reports on macrumors forum you&#x27;ll see that there are a number of people who report good battery times and even exceeding those of the 2015 machine.<p>I would question the Consumer Reports review process given the review cited above, the reports in this thread and that in the macrumors forum.<p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.notebookcheck.net&#x2F;Apple-MacBook-Pro-15-Late-2016-2-6-GHz-i7-Notebook-Review.185254.0.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.notebookcheck.net&#x2F;Apple-MacBook-Pro-15-Late-2016-...</a>
jjawssd超过 8 年前
Does Apple sell a 2016 laptop without a dedicated GPU?
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yoplait_超过 8 年前
what a load of bollocks
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wildchild超过 8 年前
Because you can&#x27;t cheat people forever.
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jjtheblunt超过 8 年前
Why the heck would anyone listen to Consumer Reports for this sort of thing?
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Daviey超过 8 年前
I&#x27;m not really a fan of Mac&#x27;s, but I don&#x27;t think too much weight should be put on this. <i>Everything</i> that Apple delivers is greeted with negative reports, and yet it turns out to be successful.<p>Also... i&#x27;ve never even heard of &quot;Consumer Reports&quot; before.. but the name is pretty subjective.
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