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When Finnish Teachers Work in America's Public Schools

104 点作者 aarohmankad超过 8 年前

7 条评论

noobermin超过 8 年前
<i>adjusts his seat in his armchair</i> Yes, my uninformed opinion, but reading the article, I think the quote from Marc Tucker towards the end is right:<p>&gt;And the countries that give [teachers] more autonomy successfully are countries that have made an enormous investment in changing the pool from which they are selecting their teachers, then they make a much bigger investment than we do in the education of their future teachers, then they make a much bigger investment in the support of those teachers once they become teachers.<p>Teachers in these institutions are given a level of respect we offer scientists, lawyers, other professionals, so of course they are trusted to be given autonomy. Imagine the same level of scrutiny given to such professionals, if say we mandate every minute in a doctor&#x27;s meeting from a city authority, would they stand for it? When we talk about education, people often highlight the fact we spend a lot of money per student compared to other countries. This fact fits in with this hypothesis.<p>Once an institution gains that respect, the rest can follow. No, it may not be causal (teachers being respected leads to higher pay, better quality teachers, etc) but they are certainly correlated.
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jimmyswimmy超过 8 年前
I found the perspective of the Finnish teachers quite useful and interesting. I&#x27;ve been in electrical engineering for awhile and have been contemplating teaching as a second career, as I know many engineers do. But so used to real autonomy in my day to day or even week to week activities, I can&#x27;t imagine going from this life to that. Reading about NCLBA and common core and the like never seemed burdensome but perhaps I was wrong. In any event, I don&#x27;t foresee teaching in my future anymore. Too bad. Perhaps in another country.
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jimhefferon超过 8 年前
This quote<p><i>“I feel rushed, nothing gets done properly; there is very little joy, and no time for reflection or creative thinking (in order to create meaningful activities for students).”</i><p>seems to me to express both the current trend, and why citizens should care. If highly educated and capable people feel that way, you can expect them to migrate away.
fallingfrog超过 8 年前
I can tell you right now why they do things this way: it reduces the bargaining power of the teacher to demand a higher salary. If you want to negotiate a salary with someone, the last thing you want is for them to be able to claim to be unique- if their lesson plan is prescribed, the test are prescribed, etc, then all you really need is to hire someone who can follow instructions, and if that person doesn&#x27;t follow their instructions they can be easily replaced, on the cheap. Turning people into machines is what we Americans do best.
thinkloop超过 8 年前
Like everything there is a trade-off with autonomy. On the one hand, not having it is dehumanizing and demotivating causing top performers to work sub-optimally. On the other hand it reduces volatility and variation ensuring the worst performers aren&#x27;t as bad.<p>The smaller the organization the easier it is to give autonomy because the natural feedback loop is tighter. In massive organizations (like the education system) there are a lot of cracks to fall through.<p>Personally I can&#x27;t work without extreme autonomy - luckily I&#x27;m a web engineer where this is basically standard. I&#x27;m not sure what the right mix is for all businesses, organizations, cultures, countries, etc.
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criddell超过 8 年前
Sounds like Chartouni is a great teacher. A lot of the things she is complaining about (like rubrics) weren&#x27;t put in place for teachers like her. They are there for the 50% of the teachers that are worse than average.
deathEternal超过 8 年前
Looking back on my school career, from elementary through high school, the thing I hated most about school was all the fucking assholes I was force to call classmates.<p>Then, looking back at all the shitty retail jobs I held, the thing I hated most about work was all the fucking asshole customers.<p>Then, looking back at all the shitty office jobs I held, the thing I hated most were my co-workers, above me, below me, and across from me.<p>But really, the thing that I&#x27;ve hated all along, is being forced to do anything without first building the understanding behind why bothering at all.<p>Why am I going to school?<p>Fuck you, I&#x27;m a kid.<p>Why am I working this shit job?<p>Fuck you, for robbing me of my youth.<p>Why do I work at all?<p>Fuck you, can I have what&#x27;s left of my life back please?<p>And then I fucking died.
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