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Facebook to Open Startup Garage at Station F in Paris

126 点作者 programLyrique超过 8 年前

14 条评论

muse900超过 8 年前
I don&#x27;t know why, it might just be me, am thinking of startups as a bad thing. If I ever decide to build my own app or solution or something I wouldn&#x27;t go for a startup setup. I&#x27;d set it up as an actual business, make profit and expand, I wouldn&#x27;t wait for some investors coming in throwing money at me, I don&#x27;t get why people in tech cant see that. Just because people that built uber etc became rich out of that doesn&#x27;t mean that the percentage of the startups that actually make it and their creators become comfortable enough is more than lets say 5%. Chances are you&#x27;d win the lottery easier than starting a startup.<p>So dear fb and google and whoever, build business garages where people go with an idea and they&#x27;ve been given a cheaper way to expand their business on their own and see if they can actually make it, rather than trying to find the best ideas to invest for yourselves, that would help.
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irmbrady超过 8 年前
Nice timing for the French Tech Visa:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;visa.lafrenchtech.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;visa.lafrenchtech.com</a><p>Discussion:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=13410510" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=13410510</a>
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pokemon-trainer超过 8 年前
&quot;startup garage&quot;<p><i>looks at photos of spacious, high end, neomodern office architecture</i><p>we&#x27;ve come a long way since hp
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tom_mellior超过 8 年前
&quot;And anyone will be able to rent some office space [at Station F] for €195&#x2F;desk&#x2F;month in the huge 366,000ft² (34,000m²) building.&quot;<p>Interesting. The last time I looked at this a few months ago their web site seemed to suggest that they were looking for startups to rent space, but not individuals. Details are lacking, but a quick comparison with other coworking spaces in Paris suggests that this is 100-200 EUR cheaper per month.
chinathrow超过 8 年前
Looking at the pictures of Station F, all I see is noise. How will they tackle the noise problem when having so many people working in one big hall?
matt4077超过 8 年前
I just learned from some protest flyers that google is opening a similar campus literally a stone&#x27;s throw from my apartment (in Berlin, Germany).<p>It&#x27;ll feel kinda strange. Like your parents coming to visit you at college.
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welanes超过 8 年前
While considering a move to France, one of most interesting organisations I stumbled across was The Family (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thefamily.co" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thefamily.co</a>).<p>They exude a really good ethos - or have really good copywriters, at least - and show self-awareness of some of the reservations that come up on HN when somebody mentions Startup and France in the same sentence.<p>Their &#x27;Toxicity&#x27; post damn well near seduced me (pesky Frenchies!) and is worth a read:<p>&gt; <i>France is full of incubators, there’s news coverage, there’s this startup out of Bulgaria that just raised 2 million, everybody’s a software engineer, hell, in some countries, everybody’s a CEO! But that’s the difference between hype, which is useless, and hope, which is useful...</i><p>&gt; <i>...If you rely on TechCrunch and Medium to give you hints on how to be an entrepreneur, you risk three things: the first is that you believe it’s all true. The job of any good entrepreneur is to sell a good story. Nobody sells you the horrible things going on with the company (at least not until after the company is well on its way to being dead). The second is that you miss critical information filters ...The third risk is that you start to think it’s easy...that growth is just a matter of deciding when it’s the right time.</i><p>&gt; <i>Money and people are needed to make any project work, but they are replaceable: there’s always someone willing to write another check, and there’s always someone who you can find to take over a particular job. But you can’t get back time. A bunch of people sitting around, saying that they’re working, talking about new projects every two months, focusing on getting a grant rather than getting a sale, those are people in a toxic ecosystem who are just wasting time.</i><p>&gt; <i>Learn to recognize fake work — anything that doesn’t bring you closer to more customers, that doesn’t bring you closer to a better product, that doesn’t put people in contact with your solutions. Applying for public money, going to conferences, taking meetings, this is fake work that doesn’t help you with your business model, doesn’t identify problems and solutions, doesn’t show you the actual goals that you have to achieve in order to have success. Real work does all of those things.</i><p>&gt; <i>If you can make money, you’ll have time to figure out the right business model. You won’t have to rely on investors who don’t understand your goals. Finding bad investors can be worse than having none at all.</i><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thefamily.co&#x2F;toxicity" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thefamily.co&#x2F;toxicity</a><p>Anyone have any experience with these guys? Algolia and Crisp.im passed through their doors, and they seem to be doing well.
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julio83超过 8 年前
Thank you X.Niel for 42 and station F.
cracker_jacks超过 8 年前
Are startups also required to provide 5 weeks of paid vacation + public holidays? Also, are there limits on the number of hours worked per week?<p>I&#x27;m all for workers benefits, but I don&#x27;t see how a startup with limited funding could afford those benefits to their employees.
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hn_news超过 8 年前
If start up becomes successful, Will Facebook own part of the equity in this start up?<p>As a founder, why would i want to give up equity to Facebook? Why would i need to be in this &quot;garage&quot;?
d_theorist超过 8 年前
&quot;Thirty students will meet with Facebook every week to make the world a better place (or that’s how I think about it).&quot;<p>Fantastic neutral reporting here from TechCrunch. Not at all just a recycled press release.
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trhway超过 8 年前
given the history of creativity in Paris shouldn&#x27;t it be a mansard instead of garage?
sbt超过 8 年前
this is political theatre
danyfs超过 8 年前
Thanks Facebook for this good offering! WE will certainly apply to be part of it.