Nylas Mail is now free

Is there a build available which doesn&#x27;t require users to sign up for a Nylas ID?<p>The support page states that &quot;If you’re using N1 against our open source sync engine, you’ll still need to create a Nylas ID.&quot;<p>Given the privacy policy says that Nylas shares information with third parties and that they can &quot;make a copy of the entire contents of the applicable email inbox, calendar, and contact book&quot;, it doesn&#x27;t feel like a traditional email client to me.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.nylas.com&#x2F;hc&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;articles&#x2F;220974588-How-is-a-Nylas-ID-different-from-my-email-address-" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.nylas.com&#x2F;hc&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;articles&#x2F;220974588-How-is...</a>

I really wanted an Email client for Linux which isn&#x27;t power hungry but unfortunately last I tried Nylas - it was always top app in `powertop`. An always running app has to be low on power consumption IMO, but because so many apps are being built on top of webkit&#x2F;electron most of them pretty much suck when it comes to battery usage.<p>Another case in point is slack app. On Linux, it is probably the worst app. :(

After signing up for Nylas Mail, I started getting daily &quot;marketing email&quot; (spam) from them. It really added insult to the injury already caused by the Linux app being horribly slow, buggy, and power-hungry.

I open the page and have no idea what Nylas is. I click on the logo and I&#x27;m taken to the blog home page, where 60% of the screen is the Nylas logo with no subheader telling me what it is. I click on it again and it just refreshes the blog index. No link to nylas.com. How do so many people make the same mistake?

Hey HN-- I&#x27;m the author of this post. Feel free to post questions!<p>We are a very small team building this app. Hopefully you can focus on what&#x27;s new&#x2F;good and not what is left to do! :)<p>If you find bugs, please post them here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;nylas&#x2F;n1&#x2F;issues&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;nylas&#x2F;n1&#x2F;issues&#x2F;</a>

I used Nylas for a while and really liked it, until they they forced everyone to pay $7 per month to use it.<p>Here&#x27;s the original discussion: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=11553738" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=11553738</a>

I used Nylas back when it was free, and it is a good email client, but it just wasn&#x27;t worth $7 a month to me, and certainly not $12, especially when I consider that Office 365 Business Premium is only $12.50 a month, and includes Outlook, Word, Excel, etc. I would never use Office 365 personally, but when I consider the value offered by Office 365 Premium vs. Nylas, for about the same price, it makes Nylas Email look grossly overpriced.<p>It seems to me that Nylas could make a lot more money by charging $1 a month, since there are likely many, many more people willing to pay $1 vs. $12. Probably more than the 12 to 1 ratio required to break even.<p>I like Nylas, and think it is a good email client, but their pricing suggests they haven&#x27;t done the market research and competitor analysis required to price themselves strategically and to be successful.

How is this different than Mail and every other email client in existence?<p>Don&#x27;t get me wrong, it looks extremely good.<p>However, I visited the site and immediately clicked on the back button.<p>I&#x27;ve been using Google Inbox for a few months, and it radically changed how I handle my many mailboxes. It&#x27;s not rare now that I actually achieve inbox zero.<p>I would love to see the same amount of innovation that was put into Google Inbox (I think they might have acquired it, though?) in another email client, as I&#x27;m always looking to try things out.<p>In Nylas, I see the same things that make dealing with email a pain: folders, the trash and spam being given the same importance as the inbox, etc.<p>It&#x27;s set up to make it a job to keep your emails organized, while you shouldn&#x27;t keep them organized, because it&#x27;s just doesn&#x27;t matter: just reply and mark as done, snooze until you can reply and mark as done, or discard&#x2F;mark multiple emails at the same time and go on with your life.

People need to start saying what their product does on their website

What happened to Linux support? I&#x27;m sure I installed it a while back using a deb package downloaded from their site?

I&#x27;ve tried it, I wanted to love it, but man was the self-hosted sync engine a pain in the ass. Seemed like this was a totally second-class offering from Nylas, there were several known bugs where the client had problems syncing with self-hosted engines and the response was seemingly &quot;we know this is a problem with self-hosted sync engines, we&#x27;ll try to fix it eventually&quot;. A fair enough response to me as a nonpaying user who didn&#x27;t want their cloud offering, but certainly enough to get me to stop using their open source offerings as my email client.

&gt; Does Nylas Basic support all mail providers?<p>&gt; Today’s release supports Gmail&#x2F;G Suite, Office365 Exchange, Yahoo! Mail, iCloud, and FastMail. Full support for self-hosted Microsoft Exchange servers is coming soon.<p>I am a little curious why this is so limited. All of the above solutions support IMAP, so why is this so specific? I could understand if they&#x27;re trying to support, say, Gmail-specific features of your inbox, but a provider like FastMail is pretty much entirely standards-compliant, AFAICT.

Wait, so Nylas was free, then it was paid and now it&#x27;s free again? Did I understand correctly?

I use Nylas but I recently had to move from a 2013 MBP to a 2008 MBP and it shows how unresponsive the UI is. I&#x27;d like to use something such as mutt but I find it very unfriendly.

Does all email still go through their servers?

I used Nylas for a while after it was first released and really liked it. Then one day out of the blue I started getting sync errors and it basically stopped working (I&#x27;ve talked to multiple people that this happened to). After spending a couple hours, removing, reconnecting, re-installing, all with no success I gave up and stopped using it (actually attempted using again a month or two later with the same results). Would&#x27;ve been great to have local sync from the beginning as I actually might&#x27;ve paid to use it if I wouldn&#x27;t of encountered so many issues and lost time trying to fix them. Now it looks like everything that I used to use and like about the app is only included in the paid version, and there&#x27;s no way I&#x27;m going to pay just to see if they fixed the issues.

I&#x27;m really enjoying spark (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sparkmailapp.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sparkmailapp.com</a>). I would try Nylas, but snooze is an absolute deal breaker for me. I&#x27;d highly recommend making that a free feature.

Anyone got this set up and would be willing to test it against <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.emailprivacytester.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.emailprivacytester.com</a> and report back?

I looked at this app in depth and used it for about 2 days. Overall it is fairly usable and I liked it but the memory usage is killer. On a MacBook Air with 8 gigs, it uses 979 megs out of the gate and bloats up an additional 100 megs by the next morning. More details here: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;fuzzyblog.io&#x2F;blog&#x2F;email&#x2F;2017&#x2F;01&#x2F;18&#x2F;nylas-mail-review.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;fuzzyblog.io&#x2F;blog&#x2F;email&#x2F;2017&#x2F;01&#x2F;18&#x2F;nylas-mail-review....</a>

Ok I will try it again. I have to say when I used it during the trial, I liked it a lot. Love the inverse theme and the customization that is allowed. My only bad experience was, I ran the OS update that killed their app. It stopped updating with their server, then a week later started taunting me to pay money. It&#x27;s not their fault the app stopped working. It was just bad timing that left a bitter taste in my mouth. I really do like the app and looking forward to reinstalling and configuring right now.

I actually really like it. It&#x27;s funny how many Electron apps I have been using lately: - Visual Studio Code - Hyper Terminal - Nylas Mail - Slack - Whatsapp Desktop - ...

How secure is it if I run the open source parts myself? Are my emails stored unencrypted on the server itself?<p>Also if I access my email largely from my phone, would I have any significant advantages?

I debated switching but the lack of IMAP support in the free version turned me away.<p>That&#x27;s the only feature I want Nylas Pro and it&#x27;s not worth $12&#x2F;mo.

20xfaster than what?

I am not sure how much faster it is right now, but last time I tried N1 just hanged when i plugged in my gmail account ( it just have like 8-10gigs of emails for last god knows how many years). But that is what happen to pretty much any mail client I tried on mac. I end up using only inbox in the browser&#x2F;android.

I love Nylas, and I&#x27;ve recommended it to people in the past. But what new funding model has enabled this change?

I have a lot of sympathy for companies trying to make decent email apps. The economics are just awful.

still using thunderbird that is really, totally free, I recall it is EOL, looking for alternatives.

What motivated the decision to give again the option to use Nylas for free? I remember reading that your target were kinds of &quot;email power users&quot;, for whom you would offer the ability to create advanced workflow. Did this change?

I&#x27;ve been using Mailbird recently and liked it enough to actually buy it.<p>Does Nylas have anything that might convince me to use it? I guess Open Source is a pretty big one, but I&#x27;m talking featureset wise.

Ugh, Emojis are thing for very informal conversations - your friends. Seeing them splattered in somewhat official statement looks so out of place and unprofessional.

This is amazing. I was using this client all the time until they were not free enough. The price was way too high imo so I stopped using it until today.

It seems like they changed their sync model. The client syncs with the email provider directly now instead of using their server. This is great.

They were charging money for an electron based app?

I enjoyed Nylas but was unsure about the features being worth enough for a subscription. So I am glad a free version is now available.

...for mac users

One bug I found is that open tracking does not seem to be working.<p>Maybe a way to submit feedback right from the app would be useful.

And ... their Google auth gateway is down.

What are the feature differences between this and Apple&#x27;s Mail.app? They look the same, on the surface.

Why is it free for Mac and paid for Windows and Linux? I think Mac users are most likely to pay for it.

Anyone compared this product to say Postbox or any of the other newish clients out there?

what is the reason of all this energy usage? It uses more resources than Chrome: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;uTjinwO.png" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;uTjinwO.png</a>

The download page is blank for those of us who disable javascript.

The emojis in every other line really distracts from the content

I do understand the need for a better modern open source email client (not trying to start any kind of client war here), but I really want something that doesn&#x27;t rely on an external server.<p>1 - any suggestions for an open source alternative that provides email snoozing on linux (that&#x27;s a big part of my email processing)?<p>2 - any good guide on how to self host the Nylas server on my home server (I know they have the project on GitHub but the instructions are a bit too complicated for me, although that&#x27;s perhaps my sysadmin skills are quite low)?