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Quick, How Might the Alien Spacecraft Work?

102 点作者 D_Guidi超过 8 年前

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xenophonf超过 8 年前
This is a duplicate of Wolfram&#x27;s original blog post:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.stephenwolfram.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;11&#x2F;quick-how-might-the-alien-spacecraft-work&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.stephenwolfram.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;11&#x2F;quick-how-might-the-a...</a><p>The previous discussion (about two months ago):<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=12940364" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=12940364</a>
ansible超过 8 年前
The problem with interstellar travel in general is that it is so expensive, in terms of energy usage. I speculate that even for Kardashev type 3 civilizations, shipping matter around will be impractical.<p>The future is software. For entities that live purely as software, and aren&#x27;t so picky as us meatbags are about continuity of consciousness, &quot;traveling&quot; from place to place by sending data is the most practical method.<p>All that is needed is that the destination be prepared appropriately. So that means firing off a kilogram (or so) of self-replicating molecular nanotechnology which can build the infrastructure you&#x27;d want to live in (compute on) at the destination.<p>I haven&#x27;t seen any indications yet with physics that something more practical is in the offing. There&#x27;s still a lot we don&#x27;t understand (GUFT, dark matter &#x2F; energy), but there doesn&#x27;t seem to be much hope for life as we know it to flit around the universe faster than light.
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dghughes超过 8 年前
It always seems to involve mastering gravity yet gravity is so incredibly weak compared to magnetism. Plus &quot;alien spacecraft&quot; aka UFOs always seem to output a huge amount of light so maybe gravity and light are linked in the process or mechanism for whatever makes the thing operate.<p>I like the article how it mentions getting the science believable or at least not terrible wrong. But what I dislike as much as that is whenever the science parts are dismissed. Usually a scientist in a movie or TV show tries to explain something the lead character rolls their eyes as if it were boring everyone laughs.<p>How can we encourage kids that science is interesting if it&#x27;s treated as a bore or a joke and ridiculed? I know it&#x27;s meant as a writing method to make the lead person seem dumb compared to the smart scientist but it sends a bad message that science is boring.
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kordless超过 8 年前
Yesterday, I watched Bruno Vassel fly his glider in the Rocky Mountains for nearly 2 hours on Youtube. I hypothesize someday we will be able to extract energy from the Ether to power our own spaceships in a similar way to gliding. That&#x27;s not to say we won&#x27;t need to add our own energy to get somewhere specific!
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tomelders超过 8 年前
Well this article kills my pet theory, but I&#x27;ll inflict it on the world anyway because this sort of stuff is fun to think about.<p>Before I go on, a couple of key points.<p>Also, spoilers ahead.<p>1. We don&#x27;t see the space craft arrive. 2. Their choice of locations on Earth goes unexplained. 3. We don&#x27;t actually see them leave. They just disappear.<p>I posit that the &quot;aliens&quot; aren&#x27;t actually from &quot;outer space&quot;. They&#x27;re higher dimensional beings that exist in our 3D space (or 4D if you count time), but we simply cant perceive them in the same way a two dimensional being would not be able to perceive anything in the third dimension.<p>The &quot;ships&quot; aren&#x27;t ships. They&#x27;re something the &quot;aliens&quot; have created to project themselves into a 3D dimensional space so that we can perceive them. They&#x27;re basically windows. When Amy Adams&#x27; character goes behind the &quot;window&quot;, she can do this because her brain has acquired the capacity to perceive the higher dimension, and she no longer needs the window.<p>Their locations on Earth may mean nothing to us, but they are convenient places for them as they perceive the universe. A 2D being would not be able to fathom the reason 3D being makes marks on a 2d plane unless they could perceive the 2D plane form a 3D perspective.<p>Anyway, that was my theory. This article blows pretty much destroys it, but I like it anyway.
mynegation超过 8 年前
Asking someone with better understanding of physics. Wolfram talks about space as a network. But would not that mean that there is an absolute reference frame? Relativity theory does not need it (not sure if it disproves that there is no such thing), and from what I know no such frame was found. How does that reconcile?
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wyldfire超过 8 年前
&gt; The movie-makers were giving Christopher raw data, just like in real life, and he was trying to analyze it. ... &gt; In the final movie, the screen visuals are a mixture of ones Christopher created, ones derived from what he created, and ones that were put in separately.<p>I wonder -- did he synthesize the handwriting samples under analysis or was that from the film&#x27;s conventional creative team? I read Chiang&#x27;s story after having seen &quot;The Arrival&quot; and IIRC the descriptions weren&#x27;t anywhere near as clear about the circular nature of the sentences.
twic超过 8 年前
&gt; Gauss suggested back around 1820 that one could carve a picture of the standard visual for the Pythagorean theorem out of the Siberian forest, for aliens to see.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Gauss&#x27;s_Pythagorean_right_triangle_proposal" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Gauss&#x27;s_Pythagorean_right_tria...</a><p>Radio waves? Golden discs? Nah son, colossal geometric wheatfields and a few big hedges is what you want!
pmontra超过 8 年前
There have been a number of posts about this movie on HN, many of them interesting <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;?query=Arrival&amp;sort=byDate&amp;prefix=false&amp;page=0&amp;dateRange=all&amp;type=story" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;?query=Arrival&amp;sort=byDate&amp;prefix=fal...</a><p>Some of them address the linguistic side of the movie.
jackhack超过 8 年前
I like the blog post&#x27;s window title better than the article caption: &quot;I had one night to invent interstellar travel&quot;.
firefoxd超过 8 年前
Has anyone looked at the CIA declassified documents that appeared a few days ago?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cia.gov&#x2F;library&#x2F;readingroom&#x2F;search&#x2F;site&#x2F;ufo%20photo" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cia.gov&#x2F;library&#x2F;readingroom&#x2F;search&#x2F;site&#x2F;ufo%20ph...</a><p>It does have pictures of UFO for reference<p>Edit: added details
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viach超过 8 年前
Infinite Improbability Drive, of course!
swayvil超过 8 年前
Direct reality manipulation. A chorus of magicians dictating the next millisecond, then the next and so on.<p>As with any technology there are easy ways and hard ways. Thus the spaceship.
Grazester超过 8 年前
Why not create worm holes to travel through? How it does this? Old God knows.