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Getting out of the cloud…

204 点作者 snw超过 8 年前

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hedonistbot超过 8 年前
Dear HN, please scale down the panic.<p>&gt;President Trump’s Executive Order calls for federal agencies in the U.S. to ensure that their privacy notices make clear that Privacy Act protections extend only to citizens and permanent residents of the U.S. Importantly, Article 14 of the Order explicitly states that the federal agencies must do so in a manner that is “consistent with applicable law.” In the context of EU-U.S. data transfers for law enforcement purposes, the Judicial Redress Act constitutes applicable law, and thus President Trump’s Executive Order, as written, should not impact the Judicial Redress Act’s extension of the Privacy Act’s protections to citizens of the EU. As a result, absent further action from the U.S. government, we do not expect this Executive Order to impact the legal viability of the Privacy Shield Framework.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.huntonprivacyblog.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;01&#x2F;28&#x2F;privacy-shield-impact-of-trumps-executive-order&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.huntonprivacyblog.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;01&#x2F;28&#x2F;privacy-shield-...</a>
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emptyfile超过 8 年前
Starting to think the Trump presidency will be great for Europe, by making it politically unfeasible for European politicians to continue pretending the US is a good ally, leader of the free world, champion of liberal values, etc...<p>The US fifth column voluntarily leaving the EU will surely expedite the process.
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surferbayarea超过 8 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.com&#x2F;transparencyreport&#x2F;userdatarequests&#x2F;countries&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.com&#x2F;transparencyreport&#x2F;userdatarequests&#x2F;c...</a> <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;govtrequests.facebook.com&#x2F;country&#x2F;United%20States&#x2F;2016-H1&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;govtrequests.facebook.com&#x2F;country&#x2F;United%20States&#x2F;20...</a><p>~60,000 google user accounts(not just email, but all your web browsing data) were handed over to the government in 2016. And this was under the Obama administration.
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toyg超过 8 年前
In fairness, this has been a long time coming - legal-aware geeks have been warning us since 2001 about the infamous PATRIOT Act. SafeHaven and PrivacyShield were both disingenuous attempts at persuading people that &quot;actually we don&#x27;t really mean that for you, friends&quot;. In a way, I&#x27;m glad the hypocrisy is over.<p>This might actually help the European market.
Taek超过 8 年前
It&#x27;s things like these that push me so hard in the direction of decentralized cloud applications. Centralized institutions should not be able to see your data, and foreign powers should not be able to command them to drop your data (or otherwise hold it hostage).
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ktta超过 8 年前
Can any one please explain in layman terms what this means a bit more clearly?<p>I think I understood the part where the US no longer a good place to store data, and that there are no proper privacy laws protecting foreign citizens&#x27; data that is stored on US soil. So basically, if you still want to have a proper privacy policy, GTFO your data to non-US servers ASAP.<p>Anything else? Something I&#x27;ve gotten wrong?
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openmosix超过 8 年前
For the tech industry, this is gonna be harder to navigate than the upcoming regulations on visas and h1bs. I don&#x27;t even want to think about all the refactoring and rearchitecting to provide data segregation on multi-region. What a mess.
mi100hael超过 8 年前
It&#x27;s hilarious that Obama expanded the powers, scope, and capabilities of domestic spying more than any previous administration, but people thought he was a good dude and gave him a pass. Now Trump is in office less than a week and all of a sudden people are hair-on-fire worried about keeping their data on the same servers that have been essentially pwnd by the feds for years. Spoiler alert: nothing&#x27;s changed except your level of interest in the issue.
sghiassy超过 8 年前
Can anyone recommend a European alternative for Amazon AWS?
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boomboxy超过 8 年前
Don&#x27;t want to sound like I sound, but this might be the end of the Internet as we know it.
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simplehuman超过 8 年前
It&#x27;s easier to move our own company&#x27;s apps, I feel. What&#x27;s harder is all the SaaS products that we use most of which are in the US :&#x2F; I have to look more closely into selfhosting solutions.
_pdp_超过 8 年前
“A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” ― Winston S. Churchill