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Anyone Can Become a Troll: Causes of Trolling Behavior in Online Discussions [pdf]

48 点作者 kevinburke超过 8 年前

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alva超过 8 年前
Certain communities are extremely sensitive to disruption through trolling, especially if the group inherently places high importance on highlighting differences between members and in-groups.<p>&quot;Modern left&quot; leaning groups are so easy to disrupt and destroy it is child&#x27;s play. Trolling is an exceptionally powerful weapon if targeted communities have a particular outlook. It has been a full on blitzkrieg the last 12 months and until fundamental issues are addressed by targeted groups, they will be vulnerable.<p>An interesting area of research would be the relationship between individual trolls, collective trolls and emergent behaviour of these.<p>edit: A group defined by division, will divide and die.
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syphilis2超过 8 年前
&quot;trolling behavior in discussion communities, defined in the literature as behavior that falls outside acceptable bounds defined by those communities&quot;<p>Is this the definition you would use for &quot;trolling behavior&quot;? It&#x27;s not what I was expecting, and greatly changes my understanding of what the study is looking at compared to the title.
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samirillian超过 8 年前
Huh, interesting to see a lot of people here coming out as apparently pro-troll. Or at least troll-neutral.<p>There are a lot of problems with certain modes of discourse in the US, but is anyone here willing to argue that trolling has possibly positive transformative benefits, similar to political satire?<p>If so, I&#x27;d like to see that argument made coherently, as I have yet to hear it. If not, then any &quot;victim-blaming&quot; really should be called out as at least a red herring.<p>IMHO, &quot;political correctness&quot; is not the problem, it is a symptom. Trolling, to me, just aggravates the actual problem: deep socioeconomic&#x2F;racial&#x2F;sexual inequities.
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CM30超过 8 年前
Some interesting points here:<p>&gt; Though political issues in the US may appear polarizing, the politics section has one of the lowest rates of post flagging, similar to tech.<p>That&#x27;s baffling. Though if I had to give a possible explanatation, maybe it&#x27;s because people expect worse in a political debate? Maybe being a troll has become normalised in political discussions?<p>Hence less people would flag comments considered trolling elsewhere?<p>Honestly, I don&#x27;t know.<p>&gt; paired t-test reveals a small, but significant increase in negative behavior between 11 pm and 5 am<p>Presumably, people are more likely to act grouchy when tired. Might also be because of time zones though. I mean, maybe trolls like staying up to late to argue with people on the other side of the world?<p>For example, a European troll might like to stay up late to get into fights with American users. Or vice versa.<p>&gt; Figures suggest that negative behavior can persist in and permeate a community when left unchecked<p>This is a fairly well known point as far as community management goes, but yeah. The more a site allows trolling (or flame wars, or spammy content, or anything else), the more it spreads on the site. This is also why webmaster forums crash and burn so quickly on a quality level. Because once one user gets away with posting meaningless fluff, you suddenly start to see more and more spammers and one line posters appearing.<p>Just some thoughts here.
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ouid超过 8 年前
The forum they used as a source of data was a media outlet during a presidential election. What, precisely, is the community that they are imagining the comments section consists of? It is by definition contentious. Furthermore, antisocial behavior cannot possibly be defined as something you do as a group. It&#x27;s in the name! Political vitriol is a team sport.<p>Trollish behavior is also mutually exclusive with anger, for the simple reason that we already have a pretty good understanding for the cause of peoples behavior when they are angry. Anger. The fact that discussions degenerate when people are angry is, presumably, WHY the study looks to explain trollish behavior.<p>My understanding of the methodology, when you leave out the CNN data, was as follows (Please correct me if I&#x27;m wrong, because my opinion is scathing).<p>First they garnered a set of participants with no overarching demographic, presumably to ensure that the results were as broadly applicable as possible, but I think failing to remember that online communities tend to be much more homogenous.<p>They then found a political article on reddit and seeded a new comment section for some with some reddit comments on the original article. They made 32 copies of this comment section, randomized the order of the comments and assigned 20 people to each.<p>Before they were allowed to comment, they were given a quiz designed to manipulate their mood by asking hard or easy questions, and then lying about how well they did relative to the median. They then justified the use of this particular piece of psychological warfare as having an effect which correlated with positive and negative moods, which are then interpreted as the causal element in the behavior that follows.<p>Immediately before commenting, the users are instructed that they are &quot;testing a new voting system&quot;, which is just, excuse my language, the shittiest instruction I have ever seen participants given in a study.<p>Then they measured something other than the stated definition of trolling, and declared their results to be significant.<p>I won&#x27;t comment on the stated definition of trolling except to say that a strong case can be made that these stanford&#x2F;cornell researchers participated in behavior which was both dishonest and disruptive, with the effect of pissing at least me off. Does that not qualify?
ifdefdebug超过 8 年前
&quot;opinion of this so-called judge&quot;, &quot;The judge opens up our country to potential terrorists&quot;, &quot;a judge would put our country in such peril&quot;<p>This is trolling a judge at the highest level.
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ConfuciusSay02超过 8 年前
It doesn&#x27;t inspire much confidence in the study when it doesn&#x27;t even acknowledge the pervasive issue of astroturfing online.
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BoudewijnE超过 8 年前
I think the troll we see mostly on the web is a derivation of thinking against believe.<p>Isn&#x27;t that what most trolls have in common? targeting a group that can be defined by a pattern of thinking.<p>Altough a real troll to me is more like a clever joke, where u can point something out by tricking him into a slightly different point of view if your lucky!
microDude超过 8 年前
The best interpretation of a troll was actually on &quot;South Park: Season 20, Episode 10&quot; Trevor&#x27;s Axiom:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vimeo.com&#x2F;194900488" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vimeo.com&#x2F;194900488</a>
qwertyuiop924超过 8 年前
I would argue that not just anyone can be a troll. Or at least, an effective one. As disgusting as the words sound, there is an art to hurting people, and most trolls are downright comic.
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