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Robert Mercer: the big data billionaire waging war on mainstream media

222 点作者 lemming大约 8 年前

22 条评论

eggy大约 8 年前
I get the gist of the article, and it is scary.<p>I don&#x27;t recall as much scare when people found out Obama&#x27;s team used machine learning and data collection, as well as Hillary&#x27;s later efforts, to influence voters or gain support.<p>I am not a Trump supporter, nor a Hillary or Obama fan; I am pretty disgusted with the US political system, however, I also recall people praising the IT&#x2F;ML&#x2F;Big Data teams for Obama and Hillary without even a mention of what data they were slinging or collecting.<p>I left FB years ago, and I feel much better for it, especially after reading this article.
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pesenti大约 8 年前
Cambridge Analytica first supported Cruz against Trump. So there is little hard evidence that it is such a powerful weapon. Bannon is on the board of the company and these articles feel like company-fed buzz.<p>I led Mercer&#x27;s old team at IBM for a few year and we also developed NLP&#x2F;ML-based profiling technology. They work better than chance but not much better (there is lots of published literature on the subject) and definitely not enough to make a big difference from just feeding fake news to everybody equally.
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ryanmarsh大约 8 年前
This is the new normal. Get used to it.<p>I keep telling people, things are going to get really weird. You tell me, what happens in a complex adaptive system when the cost of information (transmission and storage) goes to zero? Yah, shit gets weird fast.<p>Does anyone think Cambridge Analytica is the sole proprietor of tech like this? Will they remain the only ones? What if one person leaks the model? What if someone open sources a better one? We know this story. After some time this is going to become as accessible as any other tech, and Things. Are. Going. To. Get. Really. Weird.
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TheRealDunkirk大约 8 年前
Using big data and propaganda to nudge elections was already well enough known to be a minor plot thread in House of Cards a few years ago. The one thing I find lacking in discussing anything like this is that the articles are always written from one side. You can say that this article is about Mercer, so it should only focus on his activities, but it&#x27;s really about controlling influence in conservative politics, when this is all being done in the presence of George Soros. There was enormous detail in the article. I&#x27;d rather read half that detail, and then look at the activities from the liberal side, and compare and contrast. To me, the interesting part isn&#x27;t that one side or the other is doing these things; it&#x27;s what BOTH sides are doing to US.
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ed_blackburn大约 8 年前
As a Brit it concerns me that somebody can donate the use of such a powerful tool for a political campaign without registration. Especially as the donation was from a foreign citizen.<p>There is far too much shadiness going on. Yes the horse has bolted with Brexit but there are more elections around the world and if the democratic process _may_ be being distorted then I think it needs investigation.
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flocial大约 8 年前
Social media optimisation could very well be the cancer that kills democracy. Still I find it hard to imagine the likes of Trump or Farage to be these evil masterminds orchestrating media manipulation and shifting popular sentiment with advanced AI. Perhaps they are mere pawns of technocratic billionaires fulfilling a grand plan like Asimov&#x27;s Foundation series.
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nabla9大约 8 年前
Is it just me, or do these new players who operate in the background have more technical knowledge, quant mindset and solid data analytics connections.<p>Mercer is CEO of Renaissance Technologies and seems to own piece of Cambridge Analytica. Peter Thiel and Palantir. Even Mark Zuckerberg seems to have political ambitions.
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pohl大约 8 年前
This feels like the invention of gunpowder, to me – but for the art of deception rather than war. Up to this point, a politician could say a different thing depending on who was in the room, and we would get an occasional peek at that: like HRC&#x27;s public &amp; private positions on Wall Street, or Romney&#x27;s 47% comment. But now there can be 220 million different things to say in 220 million psychometrically-crafted rooms. That feels disruptive.
coding123大约 8 年前
I went through the tweets of a trump troll on Twitter, non-stop pro trump co tent nearly 24&#x2F;7, no way this person has any job other than literally being a Twitter troll. Someone is bankrolling this and much more.
Mendenhall大约 8 年前
Sad that political sides is what rises to the top in this conversation. I would hope the &quot;big data&quot; and how its used could be looked at by both sides with the same thought &quot;is this a good idea?&quot;<p>I hope whatever side of politics you fall on that you can see its not a single party or even just the government,its the propagation and use from every day citizens and their ignorance of what and how information will be used.
sehugg大约 8 年前
There&#x27;s another Guardian article from yesterday about how Mercer donated free help to the Brexit Leave campaign: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;politics&#x2F;2017&#x2F;feb&#x2F;26&#x2F;us-billionaire-mercer-helped-back-brexit?CMP=share_btn_tw" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;politics&#x2F;2017&#x2F;feb&#x2F;26&#x2F;us-billiona...</a>
dghughes大约 8 年前
I don&#x27;t know what or who to beleive anymore even these comments here and should I even be commenting now! Maybe that was the plan to make everyone paranoid? Is this just another bit of data about me for &quot;The Machine or Samaritan&quot; to consume.
fixxer大约 8 年前
&gt; Cambridge Analytica makes the astonishing boast that it has psychological profiles based on 5,000 separate pieces of data on 220 million American voters – its USP is to use this data to understand people’s deepest emotions and then target them accordingly.<p>This is nothing new. This is the Obama data machine&#x2F;Civis&#x2F;270&#x2F;etc etc (who didn&#x27;t Eric Schmidt fund after 2012?), AFL-CIO&#x2F;Catalist, the party databases... This is the basic strategy today regardless of side. Whatever business layer Cambridge Analytica has on top of that data is not novel.<p>The &quot;conspiracy&quot; to manipulate is truly bipartisan now.
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macawfish大约 8 年前
We need trusted, asynchronous, peer to peer, encrypted streaming applications, and we need them to become normal! These centralized data repositories need to rot in the ground!<p>Why couldn&#x27;t something like Twitter or instagram be built out of p2p protocols? Where users actively curate their connections predominately in person with people they actually know? I think there&#x27;s actually a demand for this. People I know are tired of the polluted mainstream social media channels, but know no other options.
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davidf18大约 8 年前
Mercer does have a point about bias in MSM. MSM called Steve Bannon an anti-Semite when he is in fact very, pro-Israel and very much against anti-Semitism. However, they failed to report that the Democratic National Committee candidate who almost won, Keith Ellison, was mentioned by the Anti-Defamation League, &quot;Ellison’s remarks ‘deeply disturbing and disqualifying’&quot;. [1]<p>He was one of only 8 members of Congress to vote against the Iron Dome anti-missle system which protected Israeli civilians from Hamas rockets. [2]<p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.adl.org&#x2F;press-center&#x2F;press-releases&#x2F;israel-middle-east&#x2F;speech-raises-new-doubts-about-Rep-Ellisons-ability.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.adl.org&#x2F;press-center&#x2F;press-releases&#x2F;israel-middle...</a><p>[2] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;jpupdates.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;08&#x2F;03&#x2F;rep-ellison-explains-anti-iron-dome-funding-vote-need-cease-fire&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;jpupdates.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;08&#x2F;03&#x2F;rep-ellison-explains-anti-ir...</a><p>[3] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;dailycaller.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;11&#x2F;17&#x2F;democrats-must-scrutinize-keith-ellisons-anti-semitic-past-and-ties-to-radical-islam&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;dailycaller.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;11&#x2F;17&#x2F;democrats-must-scrutinize-...</a><p>MSM chose not to report the Anti-Defamation League statement (ADL says Bannon is not anti-Semitic BTW) about Ellison nor did it report that he was one of 8 members of Congress to vote against Iron Dome, an anti-missle system that protected Israeli civilians from Hamas rockets.<p>EDIT: After the DNC election which Ellison lost, the Wall Street Journal disclosed the following:<p>&quot;Mr. Ellison, who is an African-American Muslim, also faced complaints about his past associations with the Nation of Islam and statements he has made that were perceived as criticizing Israel. Haim Saban, an Israeli-American donor who funded the construction of the DNC’s Washington headquarters, in December publicly called Mr. Ellison “clearly an anti-Semite.”&quot;[4]<p>But they should have disclosed this information before the election.<p>[4] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wsj.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;democrats-elect-tom-perez-party-chairman-1488054192" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wsj.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;democrats-elect-tom-perez-party...</a>
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ryanmarsh大约 8 年前
I love how the article uses the phrase &quot;our data&quot;. LOL. We shout from mountain tops and then whine when people record us.
hrodriguez大约 8 年前
&#x2F;rant&#x2F; So another hit piece on someone that supports Trump. This is the new left-wing extremist strategy... ie, destroy powerful voices fighting to safeguard our country and improve American lives. The Mainstream Media wants to be taken seriously with this tactic. Never heard of cnsnews.com either. Went through it and it&#x27;s rather right-wing conventional. Nothing like this over-the-top ranting lunacy of an &quot;article&quot; disguised as journalism.<p>The author made sure to paint another Trump supporter in a bad light by using words like antisemitic, islamophobic, scary, brainwashing, disrupting the MSM, extremist sites, creepy, propaganda, amplify particular political narratives, playing to emotions. These words and many others have become their divisive talking points. I was surprised that I didn&#x27;t see Hitler, Fascist, Racist and Sexist too. It&#x27;s laughable if they weren&#x27;t so transparently vulgar.<p>There&#x27;s also stuff about tracking and usage habits but not a word about Google, Facebook, Twitter, George Soros (and his countless disruptive sites) and the REAL power (the MSM) - all engaged in extremist misrepresentation, censorship, outright lies, news coverups, blacklisted topics, paid rioters, banning users, manipulation of trending topics, physical assaults on the public by paid thugs. He mud-slings terms like &quot;ethical regulations&quot; in regard to Mercer when the real power has been documented to have long crossed the line and hold the details of our lives in their data-sharing databases with NO accountability.<p>He segues into &quot;playing the victim&quot;. The privileged elite that has long held the reins of manipulating public opinion is (laughably) the victim now. The MSM, which has engaged in massive coverups to support their candidate, that has used fear-mongering through misinformation, that holds ALL the keys and power is now the victim. I would borrow the following from the race-baiting left... <i>&quot;check you privilege at the door&quot;</i>, in response.<p>I started off as a fairly objective person during the political process. I liked Bernie, grew to despise Hillary and her divisive rhetoric (and noted how often the MSM media blacklisted explosive stories about this corrupt politician who was selling our country away, piece by piece). I wasn&#x27;t even a Trump supporter and NEVER visited anything right-wing. I was long sold on the idea that the right-wing was racist. I got ALL my news from the MSM. They betrayed my trust and continue to do so daily. The author has learned nothing.
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return0大约 8 年前
Good to see the all powerful msm have some competition
techrich大约 8 年前
If you dont use facebag they have no power!
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binarray2000大约 8 年前
Should we take this journalist seriously when she writes:<p>&quot;This is a billionaire who is, as billionaires are wont, trying to reshape the world according to his personal beliefs.&quot;
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Trundle大约 8 年前
&gt;This is a billionaire who is, as billionaires are wont, trying to reshape the world according to his personal beliefs.<p>This is what anyone who votes or participates in the election process is doing. Hell, it&#x27;s what this journalist is doing.<p>&gt;They’re dead, I learn, because they – we, I – “cannot be trusted”.<p>Please, as if you hadn&#x27;t worked out you can&#x27;t be trusted before. You knew what you were doing with the above line.
facepalm大约 8 年前
The article seems to be a good example of why people don&#x27;t trust the press anymore. Little actual information, but a lot of fear mongering: &quot;billionaire trying to control the world&quot;, &quot;data analysts controlling our emotions&quot;, the ad ban on Breitbart as a proof that they are evil and antisemitic (rather than showing examples of them being evil and antisemitic), and so on.<p>Obama already used data science in his campaigns, and Hillary spent more money than Trump afaik. Advertising and user targeting are not new inventions.
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