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Ask HN: Startup built on idea-kernel developed at former employer

3 点作者 cuca_de_chumbo大约 8 年前
I worked starting 2000 January at a startup in the San Jose area and stayed with the company for 1.5 years approx (i.e., through the dot-com bust&#x2F;mini-recovery&#x2F;bust). While I was there we came up with some interesting ideas (I came up with and refined a large portion of these ideas) and filed for 10 patents in 2001. I did a large portion of the patent disclosure work.<p>Long-story short (I will post further about the situation in further comment below) ...<p><pre><code> * patents filed were never fully pursued by acquiring company, and all lapsed in 2007 or before * patent appications have huge value and adequately describe a beautiful monetizable system -- and due to lapsed patents, while one could not prevent others from implementing the same, others cannot successfully sue a new startup for developing these ideas since there is fully documented prior art </code></pre> More details in a further comment ...

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cuca_de_chumbo大约 8 年前
So, to describe situation further ...<p>The dot-com bust and post-9&#x2F;11 biz environment were not friendly to most startups and not friendly to big hard-to-implement ideas, and the startup company was rescued in 2002 or 2003 by a sideline project (largely not using the IP in the patents) in which a large I.T.&#x2F;storage company saw value. The large company acquired the startup.<p>The 10 patent applications, in the mean time, were not maintained or perhaps not novel enough to all merit patents -- though I doubt the &quot;not novel enough&quot; part -- I&#x27;ve seen stupid patents awarded for much less innovation, and I haven&#x27;t yet seen the system the patents deal with implemented or sold. So ... I think there&#x27;s huge value in the ideas behind the patent applications. The patent applications all lapsed around 2007 or before, I believe because they were peripheral to large company&#x27;s business and nobody realized what they had in hand.<p>The ideas and system behind the patents only grow more relevant each passing year.<p>So what I see right now:<p><pre><code> * an idea-kernel that would be the excellent basis for a new startup * good documented prior-art (in the form of the lapsed patent applications) that probably are decent enough to defend against patent trolls * I&#x27;m at the point in my professional career where I want to pursue these ideas * &gt;&gt;&gt; the fact that if I were any other person, with no prior association with the former startup or acquiring large company, coming across these lapsed patents, I could implement them unencumbered and have good protection (though I could not prevent others from implementing the same) * &gt;&gt;&gt; since I worked on the original IP ... I might have some obligation to the &quot;acquiring large company&quot;, though they likely would care only if I were to (a) be extremely successful; or (b) use the lapsed patent applications as defense in a patent lawsuit </code></pre> I should probably discuss with an I.P. lawyer ...<p>... but my inclination is to:<p><pre><code> * build a prototype * talk to potential investors and potential customers * engage a patent lawyer to discuss possible licensing arrangements (or outright permission) to work on the I.P. with &quot;large acquiring co&quot; * hope for the best </code></pre> Any suggestions?
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