Show HN: Websites and Apps Built Without a Single Line of Code

I often feel like there is an opportunity for a hybrid model. Build the app &quot;without code&quot; but then pay to download the code and customize it to your will &#x2F; deploy on your own infrastructure.<p>Not saying this would happen with this company but if you don&#x27;t own the code you are just (as another poster put it) renting your app. If the company you are renting from goes under or raises their prices you are out of luck and the cost of recovering might actually be higher than the cost of having just used a traditional platform in the first place.<p>Not saying I don&#x27;t believe in those systems. I was one of the founding engineers at a company that did WYSIWYG website creation tools in the early 2000s (think Squarespace only not). I just think customers need to be aware of the concept of vendor lock in and data portability.<p>Edit: another important point is time to market. If your intent is to use an app like this to prove product market fit before going out and building something custom that might make a lot of sense depending on your use case.

So close.<p>I really want something like this but not quite this.<p>In my mind you have a visual builder like this that puts out maybe some bootstrap code. (Jetstrap or Bootply).<p>Then the back end is already hotwired up to something like Django&#x2F;Rails with a database, hosted somewhere like DO, VULTR etc.<p>And you can move any of these pieces around, so you can move from DO to VULTR or move databases from Postgres to Mysql, by clicking a button.<p>You have access to all the code.<p>It works pretty much like bubble but out of open sources tools that are cobbled together and you have the access.

Poking around, I don&#x27;t immediately see spelled out the benefit: what is the advantage of building &quot;without a single line of code?&quot;<p>If the complexity of the app is the same, won&#x27;t it be just as involved to build with this alternative interface?

I don&#x27;t know if this makes sense, but I imagine a &quot;visual website builder&quot; that works with components, like React Components.<p>Each visual part of the site, in each page, has a component. That component may be just static text or image, or it can run code before rendering something.<p>That should be enough to start.

The title is kind of misleading. The websites and Apps were indeed built with hundreds of lines of code, and are being sold&#x2F;are for rent on the given platform.<p>I honestly do not see a big difference compared to other services which offer you pre-built blogs, websites etc.

It looks like this is just an affiliate marketing website. Links from this website to bubble.is are affiliate links. The two sites have different domains and different WHOIS info.