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YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

1125 点作者 dwaxe大约 8 年前

60 条评论

curiousfiddler大约 8 年前
If you don't provide opportunity and a good civil environment to brilliant/enterprising people, they will find a way elsewhere. And once Vancouver or any other city starts working for them, Silicon Valley will lose its exclusivity. The thing to note here is that this response from YC is not a political one, but a response that came out of market demand; it is pretty significant if it works out.
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clamprecht大约 8 年前
Wow. We often wonder how the Bay Area would be unseated as startup capital of the world. Maybe it'll be the US's immigration problem.
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joeguilmette大约 8 年前
A friend of mine runs a large, well known webdev agency in India and is attending a conference in Arizona in April. His friend was planning to come as well - he owns a US based business, has a US bank account, pays US taxes, has purchased airfare, hotel, and conference tickets.<p>He was denied a US visa because &quot;attending a conference is not a good enough reason&quot;.<p>My friend with the agency who has a visa is concerned he won&#x27;t get thru immigration. He was planning on expanding to the US, but is has shelved those plans.
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JamilD大约 8 年前
This is great news for both Canadian and international founders.<p>Is the next step having an additional Canadian office for those that can&#x27;t get US visas? Canada has a generous startup visa for founders coming from other countries [0].<p>[0] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cic.gc.ca&#x2F;english&#x2F;immigrate&#x2F;business&#x2F;start-up&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cic.gc.ca&#x2F;english&#x2F;immigrate&#x2F;business&#x2F;start-up&#x2F;</a>
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ddebernardy大约 8 年前
In light of recent events [0], there&#x27;s a non-zero chance that some founders out there would rather avoid going to the US at all - if only to protest with their wallet.<p>It might be more sensible to open a second incubator in the EU. Berlin, Amsterdam, Dublin, Barcelona, there are plenty of options. (London is a good choice on paper too but pray tell what&#x27;ll happen after Brexit.)<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.washingtonpost.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;worldviews&#x2F;wp&#x2F;2017&#x2F;02&#x2F;26&#x2F;u-s-detains-and-nearly-deports-french-jewish-historian&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.washingtonpost.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;worldviews&#x2F;wp&#x2F;2017&#x2F;02&#x2F;26...</a>
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OoTheNigerian大约 8 年前
Great intent.<p>I&#x27;d like to know the reasoning behind choosing Canada as an alternative interview location because from experience, it easier to get a US visitor visa than that of Canada.<p>Nigerians cannot even transit the Canadian airport without a visa which takes upward of 8 weeks to get AFTER approval vs days for the US. Requirements for Canada are more onerous.<p>2 suggestions.<p>1. A country of interview per continent. For instance, Dubai will cover Africans + Middle East + Europe<p>2. Shortlist some countries and let people select 2 options to interview at.<p>On paper, the passport index [1] looks like a good way to do it but doesn&#x27;t take into account spread of countries that can visit<p>[1] www.passportindex.org&#x2F;byWelcomingRank.php
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cperciva大约 8 年前
I&#x27;m a couple hours late to this thread, but speaking as a long-time member of the HN community and Vancouverite: Welcome!<p>I&#x27;m happy to assist YC and&#x2F;or founders with anything requiring local experience or a local presence. Send me an email.
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neptunespear大约 8 年前
Combined with Expa Labs opening an office in Vancouver, it seems that President Trump is the best thing that could ever happen to Vancouver&#x27;s tech scene. Our anchors historically have been companies like IBM, HSBC, Nokia, and Ericsson, which are all shells of their former selves and have long since closed down their presences in Vancouver. The few existing long-term anchors include MDA and Vision Critical, and SAP&#x27;s BI division (SAP BusinessObjects and BusinessObjects Cloud, which originated from a local startup called Crystal Decisions which was purchased by SAP in 2008 by way of some Seagate M&amp;As), along with gamedev and film&#x2F;TV VFX studios which are all feast-or-famine. Just look at the fate of Radical, Roadhouse Interactive, United Front Games, Pixar&#x27;s office in Vancouver. Sony Imageworks, A Thinking Ape and Animal Logic might go the same way if the loonie increases in value. HootSuite is set to go under eventually as CRM suites integrate social media management; they waited too late to IPO. So this might be the kick in the ass the Vancouver tech scene needs in the eventual post-HootSuite landscape.<p>So, I say, with all sincerity, &quot;thanks, Trump.&quot;
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sremani大约 8 年前
May be this is a dumb question, I will ask it anyway, Tijuana Mexico is about 500 miles from Bay Area, where as Vancouver Canada is 1000 miles.<p>Que Canada?
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EternalData大约 8 年前
It&#x27;s oddly ominous reading about America&#x27;s rise on the back of textile patents taken from England and Europe, then poaching of German physics talent and scientific talent from across the world. Germany was, by far, the pre-eminent power in theoretical physics at the turn of the 20th century, with Einstein, Heisenberg, Planck &amp; Born about to be at the peak of their powers. Then the country decided to turn on intellectuals, immigrants, and minorities and turned its scientific prowess to war rather than peace.<p>There&#x27;s an old saying out there that history is merely a set of cycles. I suppose we&#x27;ll see if that is true in the upcoming years.<p>*one note I would add is that with recent policy uncertainty (i.e healthcare) the advantages of hiring around the world have come into starker relief. That&#x27;s even more dangerous. Sure, the United States may become less competitive in the war for talent because of walls and tighter borders -- but it&#x27;ll become less competitive, period, for companies relying on high-skill workers who by definition will be close to or at the peak of their physical and&#x2F;or mental health.
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dmode大约 8 年前
As someone who is tired of the decades long wait and uncertainty in the US immigration system, it would be amazing if tech companies were to open a Vancouver outpost and offer transfers to people in visas. I would take that in a heartbeat. May be YC can consider another incubator in Vancouver
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mck-大约 8 年前
It would be awesome if they set up a remote office here in Vancouver :)
exabrial大约 8 年前
Who is having trouble getting a Visa exactly? Just curious, trying to separate fact from hysteria
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IndianAstronaut大约 8 年前
Mexico could capitalize on this as well. Guadalajara is a mini tech hub.
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aarontyree大约 8 年前
This is just the opportunity Vancouver needs. They have been laying infrastructure to attract startups, and have been working on plans for a highspeed train between Vancouver and Seattle which are only 2.5 hours apart...
chuhnk大约 8 年前
What if it&#x27;s because I oppose the muslim ban and refuse to enter the US? That&#x27;s a serious question. Actually I feel like the response to that will be, &quot;It&#x27;s your choice&quot; but hey solidarity man!
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raverbashing大约 8 年前
As much as the tech world wants to &quot;disrupt&quot; they want to stay &quot;cozy&quot; in their California corner with their known business environment and English speaking places and their way of doing things.<p>To which I can assume there is cultural shock even when they go to the East Coast<p>But the world is big and not everything that happens appears on HN (or even on English speaking media).
startupdiscuss大约 8 年前
Perhaps a startup founder could exploit &quot;ease-of-travel arbitrage&quot; and offer a service: Remote working from several countries that are easy to get to, accept a wide range of passports, and have enormous bandwidth.<p>Canada is a lot more open than the US at this point in time, but it&#x27;s not all roses for people even to get to Vancouver.<p>What if there were a hub in, say Dubai? And a few other spots around the world?<p>I imagine Ycombinator would be one of many potential clients. Universities whose students have to delay a semester might use it. Other institutions would use it.
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h4nkoslo大约 8 年前
Good. The entire premise of the internet is that it allows coordination at low latency over distance.<p>It&#x27;s also probably not fantastic for the United States to be strip mining the entire &gt;130 IQ population of eg Sudan and packing them into SF&#x2F;NY&#x2F;DC to work on ad optimization when they&#x27;re desperately needed by their own people; setting up infrastructure to work remotely is a great first step to eliminating the brain drain problem period.
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rocky1138大约 8 年前
This is the business equivalent of a code smell.
elchief大约 8 年前
&#x2F;r&#x2F;vancouver &quot;Visiting Vancouver&quot; page:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;vancouver&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;visiting" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;vancouver&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;visiting</a>
no1youknowz大约 8 年前
If there was an interview day in London, UK. I would actually apply in a heartbeat.
gamache大约 8 年前
This is a positive thing for YC. Great.<p>I mean, YC&#x27;s still onboard with Peter Thiel: YC Partner, one of Trump&#x27;s most significant individual donors, and founder of Palantir, the analytics services company that&#x27;s powering the Trump administration&#x27;s purge of immigrants (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnbc.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;03&#x2F;07&#x2F;peter-thiel-palantir-trump-immigrant-crackdown.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnbc.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;03&#x2F;07&#x2F;peter-thiel-palantir-trump-im...</a>).<p>But good for YC. Helping several foreign entrepreneurs break into the Valley scene. Moving the needle.
anovikov大约 8 年前
Why not just open a EU branch? Participate remotely - bad idea :(
desireco42大约 8 年前
For those who thing this will unseat SV, no, quite the contrary, showing this flexibility will just make people want to work more with Ycombinator and here.
jonny_eh大约 8 年前
Why not Toronto? It has a much more vibrant tech scene.
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CJKinni大约 8 年前
As someone who went through quite the arduous process to end up working in the US legally, this is great news. Many friends I&#x27;ve had over the years have been unable to access many great resources due to their inability to lawfully work in a different location. I&#x27;m happy to see YC making progress towards offering quality opportunities to exceptional individuals in different locations.
ganfortran大约 8 年前
Well, it is a very assuring and comforting move for internationals in this tempest. Thanks for doing this.
svsjc大约 8 年前
We need technologies which will make location unimportant.<p>With virtual reality, 4k HD conferencing and network bandwidth which can support both.<p>California taxes and real estate prices in SV will make more businesses move to Texas and other states where there is little or no income taxes.
dvdhnt大约 8 年前
That&#x27;s cool. Good for folks in that situation.<p>What about people with families or dependents that can&#x27;t afford to uproot their life and relocate to SV?<p>Don&#x27;t get me wrong, this is great, but it would be even better if it expanded to include additional circumstances.
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minikites大约 8 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;03&#x2F;08&#x2F;business&#x2F;how-trump-became-the-first-silicon-valley-president.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;03&#x2F;08&#x2F;business&#x2F;how-trump-became...</a><p>&gt; “Trump is the Silicon Valley candidate in every way except that the ideology is flipped,” said Sam Altman, a prominent technology leader, chief executive of Y Combinator.<p>So now that the government has been &quot;disrupted&quot;, YC has decided to avoid the issue by fleeing the country? Maybe instead of avoiding the issue, YC could organize Silicon Valley and spend some of it&#x27;s political power actually addressing the issue (lobbying, funding local candidates, etc). Silicon Valley is home to many fantastically powerful corporations and individuals, it&#x27;s time they took a stand for justice.
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sdtsui大约 8 年前
Vancouver-based founder here. What&#x27;s the best way to stay on top of this -- apply through the front door? Would be up for connecting with others looking to apply when YC comes to Vancouver.
mynegation大约 8 年前
Maybe they will take it further and set up shop in Vancouver or Toronto.
baristaGeek大约 8 年前
Isn&#x27;t this going against the recently approved International Entrepreneur Rule?<p>EDIT: It&#x27;ll work pretty well for people coming from countries which have the Muslim ban.
jaypaulynice大约 8 年前
Why even go to that length when you can interview on video?
fixxer大约 8 年前
I&#x27;m really interested in hearing how many interviews take place in Vancouver for the intended reason (as opposed to, for example, personal protest).
elmar大约 8 年前
Why not do it also in London for European founders?
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arihant大约 8 年前
If ease of attracting international founders is a concern, my recommendation would be Dubai. Unbelievable facilities which are turn key in their own business hub, a tax free environment to incorporate in, if it goes there. Foreigners can own property, which just makes sense for a future hub.<p>One of the easiest tourist visas to obtain for vast majority of nationalities, with cheap flights. Near EU, other Asian countries, and Africa. Thailand and Singapore could be other options, but they are far from EU.
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jtl999大约 8 年前
Vancouver is a nice place. Love it here :)
rusht大约 8 年前
Great founders and technologists are an amazing asset to US, we&#x27;d be lucky to have them.
kieranr大约 8 年前
Sorry, are they just conducting interviews in Van or actually running a cohort there?
hal9000xp大约 8 年前
I&#x27;m curious does Canada require bachelor degree for this type of visa or not?
nojvek大约 8 年前
I would love to see YC funding Vancouver companies and working with them.
rebootthesystem大约 8 年前
There are a number of questions that have not been asked:<p>How many applicants does YC have from countries with visa issues?<p>Has any YC applicant been denied entry into the US? If so, what were the circumstances?<p>In looking though YC historical records, how many people, on average, would typically apply from affected regions?<p>How many of those people were accepted into the program?<p>How many of those people succeeded?<p>In the age of Skype, why can&#x27;t interviews be conducted without the need to travel?<p>Yes, I understand speaking to someone in person delivers a lot more information than possible through online meetings. An initial online meeting could function well as a 1 to 3 pass filter leading up to an in-person meeting, thereby providing a lot more time to deal with visa issues.<p>I am taking a wait-and-see attitude with regards to visa restriction issues. As is the case with any startup or new venture, mistakes are made, non-ideal rules are implemented, some confusion seeps in, etc. So long as the process is one where the right solution is evolved and the ability to pivot is retained things eventually improve. These rules should not behave differently.<p>What gives me hope? Take a look at who sits in Trump&#x27;s business advisory council (not sure this is a current list):<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businessinsider.com&#x2F;who-is-on-trump-business-advisory-council-2017-2" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businessinsider.com&#x2F;who-is-on-trump-business-advi...</a><p>It would be inconceivable that this topic isn&#x27;t discussed with frequency in these meetings.<p>If I were to presume to be able to give YC advice it would be this:<p>Use your connections to gain a seat in this council.<p>Being part of the dialog is the best way to affect positive change. That doesn&#x27;t mean agreeing with all policies, it does mean you&#x27;d be heard at the highest levels rather than not.<p>And, if you do gain a seat in this council I would further ask that you work hard to convince the administration to take the SBA and convert it into a YC-style program where, in every city of this country, entrepreneurs can have access to not just funding but a real support infrastructure to chase after their ideas.<p>The SBA has never been of real use to the myriad of startups that have revolutionized the world. If you want to borrow $100K from the SBA you better have $100K in the bank, or more. And the &quot;advisers&quot; they offer-up are often so far behind the times they are only good to help open a doughnut shop or more traditional non-scale-able businesses.<p>Yeah, do that and the immigration thing and you&#x27;ll change this country. But you have to be on the inside to do it.
mediocrejoker大约 8 年前
What happens if you get accepted and still can&#x27;t get a visa?
jensv大约 8 年前
What is the visa situation right now? What exactly has changed?
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homakov大约 8 年前
Weird choice of country for this purpose. I wonder who needs visa to the US and doesn&#x27;t need one to Canada, and I&#x27;m pretty sure the number is small.
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dadrian大约 8 年前
Thank you, sama, for doing this.
unixhero大约 8 年前
How about Oslo &amp; Berlin?
seesomesense大约 8 年前
Kudos to ycombinator !
billions大约 8 年前
Why not Tijuana?
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GuiA大约 8 年前
The lead the US has had in science&#x2F;engineering&#x2F;technology over the past 70+ years is in no small part due to the massive brain drain from Europe, and the rest of the world, due to fascist regimes.<p>If the US&#x27;s new shiny fascist regime keeps progressing at this pace, you can bet that things will reverse quickly. Good bye, world leading startups, nobel prizes, top universities, etc. These things can happen faster than one tends to think.<p>The best thing countries like China could do right now is heavily open up to English, and fund things such as foreign PhD students. Everyone is fighting to get into Harvard and MIT right now, but a half decade of Trump policies could have drastic consequences a few decades down the line and give us a very different world.<p>--<p>Edit: some followup to this comment further below <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=13831085" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=13831085</a><p>People also seem to get stuck on &quot;China&quot; in my comment. If that makes you unhappy, replace that word with Brazil, Japan, Singapore, Estonia, whatever you want... the point is, viewed under the &quot;startup lens&quot;, this new administration makes the dominance of the US in STEM&#x2F;entrepreneurship ripe for disruption by a more nimble, flexible entity.
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ben0x539大约 8 年前
Submissions of articles from YC&#x2F;by YC people always have the least descriptive titles. :(<p>Edit: Thanks!
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27hours大约 8 年前
I&#x27;m new to the site. Seems you are controlling things around here (moderator to say). Why are my comments only visible when I&#x27;m logged in? as soon as I logout and look at the comments on this article as unregistered user, I do not see any of my comments. That gives false sense that everyone is looking at my comments but in reality they are being hidden. That makes me think other users even when they are logged in the website will not see my comments because they are censored Probably as comments are not in line with rhetoric of those in charge of this site, maybe? Is it a way to censor what YC does not agree with? I never knew this existed.<p>Please explain if otherwise.
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brilliantcode大约 8 年前
I&#x27;m not part of YC but if you are in downtown Vancouver around Robson Square, give me a shout (email is in profile) and let&#x27;s get a coffee!<p>Welcome to Vancouver.
davidw大约 8 年前
&quot;Move fast and break things&quot; indeed :-&#x2F;<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;tqbf&#x2F;status&#x2F;839608371686801410" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;tqbf&#x2F;status&#x2F;839608371686801410</a>
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known大约 8 年前
Administration may unleash FATCA on YC
seppin大约 8 年前
Do..you have a point?
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muninn_大约 8 年前
Dubai? So are you not interested in attracting women to startups?
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throwawaysed大约 8 年前
I like how HN will change any clickbait titles you post but regularly does clickbait titles of its own.<p>This entire article could, and should, be a single sentence title. &quot;YCombinator holding Canada interviews for founders without US Visa&quot;.
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