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System76 Galago Pro [video]

126 点作者 herman5大约 8 年前

23 条评论

2bluesc大约 8 年前
As a previous gen System 76 Galago and now a proud Dell Precision 5510 owner, I wish them luck!<p>I traded my previous gen System76 Galago Pro after 2-3 years of being disappointed with build quality, battery life also piss poor BIOS support for a company priding themselves on supporting the hardware (i.e. UEFI had to be hacked in from the identical Clevo, next to no options, no TPM, etc). We need more competitors in this area for the Linux fanbois (admittedly myself most of the time) who try to provide solutions to Macbook &quot;refugees&quot;.<p>The Dell XPS 15 &#x2F; Precision 15 are amazing machines and for the first time in years I have a laptop I can recommend without reservation since the Thinkpads fall from grace (the Carbon was close but doesn&#x27;t have a real processor processor last few times I checked, just the U series). I hope this new System76 Galago approaches the Dell level of quality and I welcome the competition. From what I&#x27;ve seen, they are aimed in the right direction.<p>For those interested in more details on the laptop, here&#x27;s an interview with a System76 person at SCaLE 15x by the Linux Action Show discussing the new Galago and hinting at more details:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=dMbQoNz2GP8&amp;t=21m18s" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=dMbQoNz2GP8&amp;t=21m18s</a>
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chrsm大约 8 年前
Over the past 4 years, I&#x27;ve bought two System76 machines (FD: work paid for them). Each time, I maxed out what I was able to get from them.<p>Initially I had wanted to support a company that sells Linux-supported devices.<p>My first machine - a Gazelle (laptop) - had numerous issues on arrival. It&#x27;d randomly crash. Keypresses would get stuck and repeat. It was annoying. After sending it in, I still had random issues until I installed Debian, presumably it was a kernel issue - but for it to be shipped like that..was just bizarre.<p>My newest machine, I purchased a Leopard (desktop). It had been a few years, and I figured perhaps they&#x27;d gotten better at things. I was wrong. They shipped this machine, knowing full well how long it takes to boot - again, due to some kind of kernel issue - it took over 2 minutes to go from cold boot -&gt; login screen, USB devices would randomly not work, just weird stuff.. I put in a ticket, but nothing ever came of it. I didn&#x27;t want to send this machine back like I had sent my laptop (TWICE), so I ended up switching OSes again, using an updated kernel, and things seem fine.<p>I get that they don&#x27;t really have control over the kernel that comes with the OS they ship. I&#x27;m not naive. It&#x27;s just a bit silly that they&#x27;d be comfortable shipping a new machine with those kinds of issues to the point where the machine is either unusable or stuff randomly stops working.<p>As far as the &quot;physical quality&quot; of the machines go, I&#x27;m still happy with both of them. They are well-put-together machines, IMO.<p>However, I know that my next machine is NOT going to be from System76. It&#x27;s significantly cheaper to just get a nice Dell or something.
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bachmeier大约 8 年前
I&#x27;ve considered buying a System 76 laptop for years, but it&#x27;s <i>really hard</i> to find satisfied customers. I&#x27;d be concerned if the reviews were largely positive but included a few from people with bad experiences - I don&#x27;t want to be one of the unlucky few. That&#x27;s not the case at all. There&#x27;s almost unanimous agreement that these are poor quality machines.
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xophishox大约 8 年前
I can say from my experience dealing with system76, they are hands down one of my favorite machine producers, for both laptops and desktops.<p>I am trying to get some server units ordered from them for an upcoming test deployment for a new architecture we are working on and hope I can get buy in from the company to support someone other than dell or hp.
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digikata大约 8 年前
Other than that power button on the side, that laptop looks pretty interesting as a Macbook air replacement. Here&#x27;s hoping maybe it&#x27;s not a power button, that it&#x27;s a hard power shutoff for camera&#x2F;mic peripherals.
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gamache大约 8 年前
There&#x27;s basically no detail to the video, so I&#x27;ll just join the chorus of disappointed former customers here. I had a System76 netbook ~6 years ago, and it is truly one of the worst pieces of hardware I ever encountered (and I had a PowerBook 5300c).<p>Sure, Linux ran on it, but the keys were awful, the build was flimsy, the trackpad was atrocious, and the battery was at once underwhelming AND protrusive. Nothing to recommend them by.
mikecarlton大约 8 年前
Heads up -- auto-playing audio and video.
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johnhattan大约 8 年前
Am I missing something with these machines? I just priced generic Acer and Asus laptops with the same specs to the Lemur, and they both came out $200 cheaper.<p>Mind you, they come with Windows pre-installed, but the Ubuntu installer will happily reformat the drive before installing itself. And they&#x27;re all just generic laptop hardware (HID trackpad, Intel graphics), so I doubt that drivers are an issue.
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devnull42大约 8 年前
I ordered a System76 laptop about 4 years ago for work as my day to day machine. Almost immediately the HDMI port broke and I was pretty bummed out. I emailed their support hoping to get it repaired but they never actually fixed it. Since then I have never gone back to them. I want them to be great so badly but that just hasn’t been my experience.
znpy大约 8 年前
what is &#x27;pro&#x27; about that?<p>On a ThinkPad I could, depending on the model:<p>- have multiple disks in my laptop<p>- have multiple batteries<p>- hostwap cdrom drives with a hard drive or a battery<p>- hostwap batteries<p>- have 4 ram sticks (W series)<p>- install coreboot&#x2F;libreboot<p>- have nvidia quadro card<p>- have multi-core xeon processor<p>- have on site, next business day support (parts and labour)<p>- have fingerprint reader<p>- have hdaps<p>- have trackpoint+ultranav<p>- have on-board prng<p>So... What can this thing do, instead ??
kentt大约 8 年前
I&#x27;ll join in and say the Galago was one of the worst computers I&#x27;ve had.
dorfsmay大约 8 年前
No TrackPoint, which makes it unusable for me.
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headcanon大约 8 年前
Has System76 improved their product quality? I understand their reputation has never been any good. If they&#x27;re able to pull it together I might consider one, but coming from mac land, its going to be a tough sell, and I&#x27;m pretty sure I would just get a lenovo if I wanted to move away from macbook pros.
csdreamer7大约 8 年前
HP Laptop 2010: AMD built-in graphics card overheated and AMD cut support for it while still selling it.<p>Dell Laptop 2011: USB shorted out, power cord was too short. Nvidia Optimius was terrible with both Linux and Windows.<p>Lemur 2012, box-like, RAM was expensive, but it was a work horse. Hardware keys, very small laptop to mirror an old XP laptop I loved. Kept working even after I dropped it on it&#x27;s power plug. Made good use of System76&#x27;s lifetime support.<p>Lemur 2016, smooth, thinner, no cd-rom drive, very bright LED to the right, runs much cooler. The equivalent laptops from HP and Dell are thinner, but I do not feel like risking $1.5k on a laptop that could be a dud. The plastic casing does feel cheap and a little twistable, but so did the Dell. I can not have a metal casing for my work.
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stamps大约 8 年前
Had a Lemur 14&quot; about 5 years ago. Out of the box - Ubuntu support was very good but the battery life was poor (sort of expected at the time), build quality okay but not comparable to the 2012 Macbook Pro&#x27;s, and the speakers were notably quiet.<p>Otherwise it&#x27;s still running (plugged in) with an older relative who uses it to check email and do other simple web tasks.<p>If they&#x27;ve gotten the build quality right this time I&#x27;ll give it a shot. I&#x27;m currently using a Dell XPS 13 (2015) running Elementary OS (used to be Arch).
symlinkk大约 8 年前
&gt; 13&quot; HiDPI display<p>Hope it doesn&#x27;t need fractional DPI scaling, because as far as I know there is no desktop on Linux that supports it, while Windows has supported it for years.
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dudul大约 8 年前
I bought a Lemur 4 or 5 years ago and it served me very well. It still works and is somewhere in a drawer in case I need a Linux. The only thing I did on it was replace the battery after 3 years.<p>However, while I really really want to support a company that does Linux first, I think my next machine will probably be a Dell XPS. The quality of my System76 is not top notch, feels very cheap and a little bulky.
vladimir-y大约 8 年前
Better get ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen5 (latest generation, recently released). Carbon has 14&quot; screen with a similar or even smaller size (frameless design) than that bulky 13&quot; System76. It also has 2 Thunderbolt3 ports, I doubt System76 will have added at least one. Carbon also has a best keyboard on the market.
phaus大约 8 年前
Is this something new or is it another rebranded Clevo? The Galago Ultrapro they released a couple of years ago had amazing specs, but the keyboard had a design flaw they refused to fix properly.<p>Some Clevos are OK, but many of them have design defects and&#x2F;or poor QC.
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rdeckard0104大约 8 年前
Awful marketing for what is likely to be a continuity of sub-par products.
nkkollaw大约 8 年前
This is probably the worst product video I have ever seen.<p>They have to do a lot better than this at this time and age...
bedros大约 8 年前
got Dell XPS 15&quot; (9550) last summer, and I just upgraded from windows 10 to Kubuntu 17.04 Beta, supper happy, and everything works perfect.<p>wifi, sleep&#x2F;wakeup, power management work right away<p>if you get 4K screen, you need to go settings and change font size from 96dpi to 208 dpi
danielmain大约 8 年前
Please with more than 16gb ram!<p>My Macbook PRO 2012 had 16gb
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