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Burger King TV Ad Asks, Hoping Google Home Devices Answer

181 点作者 Futurebot大约 8 年前

41 条评论

evan_大约 8 年前
I guess this ruins my get-rich-quick scheme:<p>1. Publish an album with 1000 short, quiet tracks and a very unique name to all of the online streaming services<p>2. Buy ads on late-night television with a very clear voice that says &quot;OK Google, play album &lt;unique name&gt;. Alexa, play album &lt;unique name&gt;. Hey Siri, play album &lt;unique name&gt;.&quot;<p>3. Rack up the fraction-of-a-penny residuals as my songs play to people who&#x27;ve fallen asleep with the television on!
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swang大约 8 年前
FYI a Burger King marketing exec modified the entry on Wikipedia to be more &quot;Ad-like&quot;, initially using the name, &quot;Burger King Corporation&quot; before that was banned for having a promotional name.<p>Then the ad guy came back using his online screenname, and re-added the promotional introduction before it was reverted several times (along with an author from The Verge editing it, probably the edit that changed the wording to something like &quot;[it] tastes like cyanide&quot;, but can&#x27;t be too sure)<p>It was then astroturfed by some pro-Burger King sockpuppets (unsure of this but their changes all switch to the wording that the Burger King ad guy used), before finally being locked for disruptive editing.<p>Furthermore, the Wikipedia article itself now has a section about the attempted astroturfing by Burger King, and another Wikipedia user came back in and cited NPOV problems with the _original_ pre-ad wording (e.g. usage of the word &quot;signature&quot;) so now the wording in the article is even more generic and less favorable to the Whopper than when it first started.
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StringyBob大约 8 年前
Do these people have no idea how much they are annoying their own customers?<p>I just bought a google home (it&#x27;s only just been released here), and if it either plays me adverts, or other adverts (ab)use it - I will return it to the store without hesitation. This was not sold as an ad-supported service.<p>To take an extreme position - Google should take Burger King to court via the computer fraud and abuse act - they&#x27;ve just performed a distributed denial of service attack on google&#x27;s servers by using thousands of peoples google devices simultaneously without their permission.<p>Also - this is a key reason why google need to spend some time on supporting custom hot words for google home. &#x27;OK google&#x27; and &#x27;Alexa&#x27; are the audio equivalent of IoT devices with a default &#x27;username:admin, password:password&#x27; on your network.
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crowbahr大约 8 年前
Just another reason not to watch cable I guess.<p>I can&#x27;t believe that those ad execs really believe that people <i>want</i> intrusions like that. That they&#x27;d want the TV to hack their Home into advertising to them. That&#x27;s just bullshit.<p>Google should change the autoresponse for burger king.<p>&quot;Hey Google what is a whopper?&quot; &quot;A whopper is a tall tale which clever executives want to sell you but really tastes of cardboard&quot;
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itchyjunk大约 8 年前
Lot of people are already bringing up various concerns. I hope this is precisely what it does here in HN and outside. Talk about concerns regarding about these devices.<p>Is there anyway for end user to know what &quot;wake up&quot; keywords are? How do I know it&#x27;s not listening for keywords like &quot;buy&quot; (example: &quot;You should `buy` milk&quot;) and then targeting adds that way?<p>What happens next time FBI decides it wants google (et. all) to leave its device &quot;always awake&quot; on some person of interest ?<p>Can a third party somehow compromise the security to change the list of &quot;wake up&quot; word?<p>Maybe you can add voice recognition along with keyword to make sure it&#x27;s only responding to authorized people. But even then, seeing how far machine learning has come, is it really a security?<p>On a side note, do these devices only capture human audible range of signals? Or is there ways to send non-human audible signals with commands and wake word and what not? Dog whistle for alexia or Home .. Alexia whistle?<p>Edit: typos and clarity
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nepthar大约 8 年前
When someone shows me their new Alexa or Google Home, I ask it to add ingredients to make thermite in to its shopping cart.<p>Then I ask it to look up flights to Syria.
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xg15大约 8 年前
&gt; <i>Asked whether he was concerned that consumers might find the spot invasive, he said, “We think about our guests’ perception and their perspective on how we interact with them, but on balance we felt this was a really positive way to connect with them.”</i><p>I&#x27;m always amazed at the universe some marketing people seem to live in. It must be a beautiful place.
cr0sh大约 8 年前
There&#x27;s a way to prevent this, but I doubt any of the major players will do it:<p>Allow the owners of the device choose their own &quot;activation words&quot;.<p>Leave the default &quot;branded&quot; activation sentence as-is, but allow the user to customize it as they see fit. This won&#x27;t happen, of course, because of the whole &quot;branding&quot; thing (like the user is going to forget which service they are using?).<p>This just hammers another nail into my decision not to get one of these devices; instead, it would probably be easier and better to build my own, using a raspberry pi or something similar for the &quot;front end&quot;. I&#x27;d probably still have to use one of the big players search engines or such, but I could also hit anything else I wanted to, as well.<p>I tend to wonder if this is going to be the trend? Those who have or desire more freedom will have to build it themselves, and those who can&#x27;t or won&#x27;t - they&#x27;ll just have to shoulder the burden of not being as free...<p>There are ways the State could make DIY uneconomical or near-to-impossible (and I don&#x27;t think the scenario is realistic anyhow) - but if that ever happened - if things ever got to the point of it just being too much - I&#x27;ll just go offline. I&#x27;ve got more than enough data and junk to keep me amused for the rest of my life. Plus, I don&#x27;t think I&#x27;m alone in that sentiment, either.
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Millennium大约 8 年前
To be perfectly honest, pointing people&#x27;s smart home devices at a page that anyone can edit with a few mouseclicks does not strike me as a very smart PR move. This will not end well.
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recursive大约 8 年前
I guess I&#x27;m the only person who thinks this is hilarious, and not particularly worse than any other advertising.
ChuckMcM大约 8 年前
I was remarking at lunch today that for so long the goal of speech recognition was &#x27;speaker independent&#x27; recognition and now that is a handicap.<p>Early speech input systems required an individual to read several pre-defined words, usually several times, in order to train the algorithm to understand their speech. And then the next person to use the system would have to do the same. This was considered a &#x27;negative&#x27; because everyone wanted systems that anyone could use.<p>Now however, there is a tremendous need for your phone, or tablet, or commercial listening device, to be able to distinguish between <i>who</i> is talking so that different policies can be established based on the speaker. That will be the next killer feature in the voice wars I&#x27;m guessing.
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gooseus大约 8 年前
Are you serious? Oh, to be a fly on the wall of the conference room where these things are pitched and discussed...<p>&gt; “We think about our guests’ perception and their perspective on how we interact with them, but on balance we felt this was a really positive way to connect with them.”<p>Perhaps I&#x27;m too cynical or jaded by the trends in the evolving relationships between individuals, communities, businesses and our shared technology, but I see way too much negative in this type of connection.<p>The only positive aspect to this is that Google&#x2F;Amazon&#x2F;Whoever must now find a way for users to create their own audio triggers for their devices in order to protect them from this type of invasive BS or else we need to go through the lengthy and expensive process of defining and legislating the relationship between users and their AI such that activating and using another person&#x27;s AI is illegal... or is it even your AI to begin with?<p>Thanks for the philosophical&#x2F;legal quandary Burger King, but as I&#x27;ve always personally maintained, fuck you.
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mrbill大约 8 年前
Google has already disabled this from responding on the server side.
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lowbloodsugar大约 8 年前
So deliberately attempting to access a computer without permission? This is a federal crime!
gremlinsinc大约 8 年前
Easy fix for google&#x2F;alexa-- MAKE people name their &#x27;assistants&#x27;, when everyone answers to a different name we can simply say hey joe what&#x27;s the weather -- sure sometimes TV might influence it, but most likely not, that and add voice recognition (surprised it doesn&#x27;t already have that actually)<p>Edit: I&#x27;d personally rather give my assistant a name I pick, than keep saying &#x27;OK google&#x27;.
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snickerbockers大约 8 年前
Good, maybe this will cause people to reconsider these stupid personal-assistant devices.
ZainRiz大约 8 年前
Smart move. But this is something that is only cool for the first few attempts, after that it&#x27;ll get really annoying really fast.<p>Good foresight by Burger King to jump on this before anyone else. But I hope everyone stops doing this really soon too.
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burntrelish1273大约 8 年前
&quot;Hey Siri, erase all contents and settings.&quot; should <i>definitely</i> go into a TV&#x2F;radio&#x2F;YouTube ad. ;)
mmagin大约 8 年前
What would be great is if this put a serious dent in people&#x27;s excitement about creepy always-listening internet-connected devices. Instead, I predict it will result in some new FCC rules about broadcast advertising.
siliconc0w大约 8 年前
I think this is technically a violation of the CFAA right?
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anxrn大约 8 年前
A similar (unintentional) stunt: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;qz.com&#x2F;880541&#x2F;amazons-amzn-alexa-accidentally-ordered-a-ton-of-dollhouses-across-san-diego&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;qz.com&#x2F;880541&#x2F;amazons-amzn-alexa-accidentally-ordere...</a>
ffef大约 8 年前
Great now I need an ad blocker for my google home device
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amluto大约 8 年前
How is this not a felony under the CFAA?
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orionblastar大约 8 年前
All the more to password protect your Google Home Device, Alexa, Siri etc AI assistants.<p>I remember someone had their daughter use the Alexa device and ordered a doll house and cookies from Amazon. <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnn.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;01&#x2F;05&#x2F;health&#x2F;amazon-alexa-dollhouse-trnd&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnn.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;01&#x2F;05&#x2F;health&#x2F;amazon-alexa-dollhouse-...</a>
jamiethompson大约 8 年前
Genuine question as I don&#x27;t own any of these devices. Is there no setting for locking the device activation to one or more specific voices? This is surely a technical possibility and from a security point of view it is surely the sensible default behaviour for a device that can literally buy stuff using your money with nothing but a voice command.
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sersi大约 8 年前
Now the next step is for rogue editors to edit Wikipedia and write critical informations about Burger King in the Wikipedia entry..<p>Joking apart, I would be infuriated if I had such a device and saw that spot but then again, I don&#x27;t have those devices because they feel like a violation of my private space.
nikkwong大约 8 年前
I can&#x27;t imagine this working well. What about the consumers that don&#x27;t have a Google Now device? I imagine that it&#x27;s most of them. &quot;Ok Google, what&#x27;s in a Whopper?&quot; Silence, and commercial ends. Sounds kind of awkward and maybe downright confusing to some.
kalefranz大约 8 年前
This will probably only work once. Good for Burger King for thinking of it first, and getting all of the extra free publicity for it. Now any future stunts by other companies will just piss people off without the novelty upside.
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empath75大约 8 年前
That would infuriate me. And I wouldn&#x27;t buy a whopper after wards for sure.
Mithaldu大约 8 年前
This is not just annoying, it is outright dangerous. If any of the viewers are doing anything important on their phones, the task switch interruption might have real effects on them, or cause them to lose data.
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rajathagasthya大约 8 年前
Why don&#x27;t Alexa or Google Home respond to only your voice and the voices of your family members? It seems like a fairly straightforward fix to prevent TVs or other audio sources triggering a response.
orbitingpluto大约 8 年前
The new Rickrolling. &quot;OK Google. Sell all Burger King stock.&quot;
joezydeco大约 8 年前
What if you&#x27;re the company with the ad after this one? Now the GHome is stomping over that audio with Wikipedia speech?<p>What if it&#x27;s the last ad before the show resumes?
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davewasthere大约 8 年前
Funnily enough, Google Home could describe the whopper&#x27;s ingredients in 15 seconds...
return0大约 8 年前
Why dont they just go ahead and ask google to order a burger, saves the trouble.
mindcrime大约 8 年前
FFS... this is one of the rare occasions I&#x27;m almost ashamed to be a technologist. Creating cool new technology, only for it to lead to this kind of bullshit, is kind of disgusting. :-(<p>Seriously, who the hell thought this was a good idea?
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breakingcups大约 8 年前
Isn&#x27;t this technically an unauthorized use of my device?
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frozenport大约 8 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;threepanel.com&#x2F;t&#x2F;cube-drone&#x2F;18&#x2F;157" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;threepanel.com&#x2F;t&#x2F;cube-drone&#x2F;18&#x2F;157</a>
yock大约 8 年前
Could this sort of thing be Google bombed?
squarefoot大约 8 年前
100% off topic, but someone had to post this. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Bt9zSfinwFA" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Bt9zSfinwFA</a>
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devoply大约 8 年前
Cringe. You are going to take a bunch of technical users and hijack their device to read a Wikipedia entry. Yeah that&#x27;s really cool. Honestly, yeah it&#x27;s a cool idea, but total garbage execution. No one wants you to read the Wikipedia entry on what a whopper is... absolutely no one.