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Jeff Atwood on growing Discourse

218 点作者 ChanningAllen大约 8 年前

16 条评论

gue5t大约 8 年前
For anyone who has to deal with the pain of reading Discourse message threads, you can append ?_escaped_fragment_ to the URI to get a JS-free page that loads completely immediately and doesn&#x27;t unload when you scroll.<p>I have no idea why this user-hostile functionality is present by default. It breaks ctrl+F, ctrl+S, the scrollbar, and loads of other browser functionality.
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shubhamjain大约 8 年前
I have been following Jeff&#x27;s blog since a little after I started programming. I have seen his articles—especially those having strong opinions—criticised vehemently. Jeff even wrote post about people who email him how they hate his blog. But, I find it delightfully amazing that he stuck to his programming roots and found two successful ventures nonetheless.<p>I think he&#x27;s a great example of power of doing things. He didn&#x27;t start a blog with any objective other than just to write. And he wrote prolifically. If you follow his blog posts, you&#x27;ll realise that he&#x27;s rarely more than a person who loves computers. But, because he <i>did</i> things without dissuasion, he kept improving, until the success started building on his efforts.
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fiatjaf大约 8 年前
Discourse is so heavy and error-prone for the simple task it executes that I imagine anyone wanting to run it reliably must hire the Discourse team for a ton of money.<p>So probably what this article is saying is that the key to make money is to build yourself a name, then use it to sell crappy software and sell the support.
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gsylvie大约 8 年前
The developer community area of Atlassian switched to Discourse recently. I really like it!<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;community.developer.atlassian.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;community.developer.atlassian.com&#x2F;</a><p>I didn&#x27;t really quite grasp the full picture of what was going on before. Seemed to be a mix of google groups and confluence. This is much better. Also interesting to see Atlassian walking away from their dog food in this case.
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xenihn大约 8 年前
I really dislike using Discourse for some reason. The concept seems really good, but using it just makes me unhappy. I just don&#x27;t find it to be a good user experience.
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klinskyc大约 8 年前
Doesn&#x27;t raising seed-funding stop you from being an &quot;Indie Hacker&quot;?
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the_common_man大约 8 年前
Discourse is really a pain to self-host :&#x2F; I hate the whole Dockerized install thing. Why not just provide simple instructions on how to deploy and we can use Docker if we want to? Don&#x27;t get me wrong, I like Docker but the way discourse does it is totally over-engineered.
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joshmanders大约 8 年前
&gt; Don&#x27;t target the low end market if you can avoid it.<p>Disagree with this statement. There is money to be made in the low end market, and it&#x27;s not as bad as you expect it to be.
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blinkingled大约 8 年前
Has he complained about Android JavaScript performance yet?! :)
karussell大约 8 年前
I&#x27;m not sure about all the negative comments.<p>I have the exact opposite experience. I really like discourse. We run it now since two years with exactly one issue when I did an update, but that was more or less my fault being not on &#x27;stable&#x27; but on &#x27;beta&#x27;. Self-hosting is not complex although I wouldn&#x27;t want to do this without the docker they offer.<p>What I like about discourse<p>* discuss in real time (!)<p>* if you prefer email then you can get it, ask questions via email or get answers there if you are not online<p>* mute specific topics or subscribe only to a few categories<p>* you can like answers without having to say &#x27;+1&#x27;<p>* simple to self-host IMO<p>* open source<p>* our community likes it too (&#x27;it is simple to use and does what it should&#x27;)<p>* the inbuild search is good<p>There are parts that work better than with Github:<p>* The email response is bundled over 10 minutes before sending, reducing emails a lot and allows for fast edits!<p>* you see in your notification where you get likes (you don&#x27;t get emails because of this of course)<p>What I don&#x27;t like:<p>* performance feels not that great for longer threads (similar problem on github IMO)
jarjoura大约 8 年前
I think anyone paying attention knows the world went from lots of phpBB community websites straight over to Reddit. Reddit is hideous, but man, it&#x27;s easy to use, and accessible.<p>I don&#x27;t think I ever saw a successful community run on top of discourse.
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kinkrtyavimoodh大约 8 年前
&gt; Don&#x27;t target the low end market if you can avoid it.<p>But make sure you never mention it explicitly or else millions of angry users from a country will give a 1-star rating to a totally different app that happens to sound a bit like yours.
sytelus大约 8 年前
TLDR;<p>I&#x27;m interested in how to grow community. They started with press release, got 3 customers by offering them everything free + full &quot;white glove&quot; support, court more paying customers, scale infrastructure.
fiatjaf大约 8 年前
&quot;Sell to people who have money!&quot; is the sole recommendation from these bootstrapper-idols in the startup community, like Patrick McKenzie and related.<p>Still, if you want peace of mind, try selling to people who don&#x27;t have money, but who will also not require you to give them support night and day, to write complex contracts and have a lawyer, to have a dedicated helpdesk and to write custom code for.<p>If you want money, money and money, ok, this is probably fine advice, but not all people want that. Many people, I believe, want to write software they enjoy.
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amelius大约 8 年前
&gt; &quot;Sell to people who have money!&quot;<p>As opposed to optimizing your product so that poor people can enjoy it too.
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webninja大约 8 年前
Enjoyable article. If you liked this article, then you might also like some of Jeff&#x27;s other articles like this one about <i>Why Do Computers Suck at Math</i>: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.codinghorror.com&#x2F;why-do-computers-suck-at-math&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.codinghorror.com&#x2F;why-do-computers-suck-at-math&#x2F;</a>
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