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A New Social Contract with Basic Income

23 点作者 dirtyaura大约 8 年前

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Danihan大约 8 年前
Not entirely mine, but a good summary of why basic income is likely to remain a pipe dream:<p>$12k is the cited number that you see a lot in basic income discussions. That&#x27;s just over the poverty level. That&#x27;s not enough to live on and it&#x27;s practically a bonus for some members of this site. It&#x27;s not enough to do anything with. Even with that, people would still work massive hours to obtain the best house on the block.<p>But just to do that in the US you are talking about 3 trillion dollars (300 million x $10k for easy math) that you have to find in the budget. Now basic income advocates will say you can make up some if not most of that by cutting welfare programs, but given the nature of welfare programs - good luck. That stipend is also not enough to pay for healthcare, so you can&#x27;t cut that.<p>How exactly do you convince a nation which already isn&#x27;t willing to pay for healthcare to pay for basic income, too?<p>I&#x27;d love to be wrong, but I&#x27;ve never seen any numbers that are workable, especially in a political climate anything like today. There could be a complete paradigm shift in the future, where machines literally take care of all needs in an automated way, but that&#x27;s such a strange reality that welfare is honestly about the last problem we&#x27;d need to discuss.
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Animats大约 8 年前
It&#x27;s encouraging to 1) see a VC writing about this, and 2) them realizing that they see the problem but don&#x27;t know the answer.<p>We&#x27;ve tried the &quot;basic income&quot; thing. It was called welfare in the US and the dole in the UK. It led to third-generation welfare mothers and housing projects such as Pruitt-Igoe and the Robert Taylor Homes. People have to do something to get an income. Maybe not something economically useful. But something.
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frgtpsswrdlame大约 8 年前
Why can&#x27;t we have a Basic Job Guarantee? Perhaps it&#x27;s just part of the protestant work ethic we Americans are marinated in but I think most people actually do want to do productive work. Being unemployed or on welfare just plain old doesn&#x27;t feel good. Of course some people are fine lounging but I think they&#x27;re probably a minority.
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