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Imzy is shutting down

178 点作者 strange_aeons大约 8 年前

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cocktailpeanuts大约 8 年前
I wish the founders well, but I feel like people nowadays give up too early. And this is one of the most extreme examples of that.<p>Most community sites take a while to grow and you really never know what will happen. Even Reddit was sort of a failure vs. Digg and they sold it off to conde nast. It was only later AFTER the sale when Digg messed up on their own and Reddit enjoyed success as a side effect.<p>You really shouldn&#x27;t be building a community site if you&#x27;re so impatient to give up so early. I mean the site opened to public in October 26 of 2016, that&#x27;s exactly 7 months in existence. It&#x27;s probably because they raised so much money, which is why you should never raise too much money when you&#x27;re trying to build a community site. I have never seen a successful community site that raised that much money before getting traction.
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kickme444大约 8 年前
Hi, I&#x27;m the founder of Imzy. It&#x27;s a hard day but I want to make myself available, especially to entrepreneurs who may have questions. This last 2 years has been fun, and hard and I&#x27;ve learned a lot. You can reply here or email me at dan@imzy.com<p>I also have an amazing staff of developers, community minded folks, product people, executives, who are looking for work. Many of them mare open to moving (we are in Salt Lake City) and all are open to remote work. They are all very talented. Please drop me a line if you&#x27;re interested.
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minimaxir大约 8 年前
Wait, what? They raised a $8M Series A less than a year ago! <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;10&#x2F;26&#x2F;imzy-raises-8-million-series-a-round-opens-communities-platform-to-everyone&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;10&#x2F;26&#x2F;imzy-raises-8-million-seri...</a><p>That was also the time it was opened to the public. This shutdown appears to be a strong counterpoint against Reddit alternatives becoming an inherently successful business prospect.
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antonber大约 8 年前
I run an online community. Building a safe space is extremely difficult and full of grey area, online or offline.<p>There&#x27;s a fine line between the freedom to express yourself and offending someone else. As a community moderator, choosing what is and isn&#x27;t offensive is by definition subjective. It&#x27;s an impossible task for a global, multi-cultural community. You end up with a vanilla message board where most interesting thought&#x2F;debate is stifled. Reminds me of the campus &quot;safe space&quot; debate.
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acjohnson55大约 8 年前
It seems perverse that I only learn about a lot of products when news of their shutdown hits HN. I&#x27;m not exactly sure I&#x27;m sure what Imzy is for, but it seems in some ways similar to a concept I had for online communities built around discussion of content. Might have been right up my alley.
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TekMol大约 8 年前
October 2016: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;10&#x2F;26&#x2F;imzy" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;10&#x2F;26&#x2F;imzy</a><p>&quot;We now have a number of years to take our time and get the community thing right.&quot;<p>Less then a year later they give up. Why? Some minutes ago, there was a post of the founder here saying they still have most of that $8m: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=14411586" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=14411586</a>
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buro9大约 8 年前
I worked on <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;microco.sm" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;microco.sm</a> with mattrco and it was forum&#x2F;community software too. It looks like <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.lfgss.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.lfgss.com&#x2F;</a><p>The #1 problem with a community startup: Every community is itself a startup.<p>The revenue math and compounded growth all makes sense, but you need to assume that few of your communities survive, and that they each take as long as a startup to get traction and grow.<p>If it takes you 1 year to get an MVP of sufficient quality to start attracting communities, it&#x27;s still going to take the community at least a year to have sufficient attractiveness to bring in members. And it&#x27;s unlikely that either will take as short as a year, and if it did that isn&#x27;t going to be enough to bring in another round of funds to keep going.<p>Community startups are hard.
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williamstein大约 8 年前
I spent 5 minutes on the site, and I still have no clue what it is... I would like to know, since it&#x27;s interesting to understand what people have tried and gave up on.
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DanBC大约 8 年前
Imzy was a nice place to be.<p>Some of the problems I had:<p>1) The interface was confusing. Making posts was confusing.<p>2) Users were allowed to create communities, and they did. There were a gajillion of very tiny communities. This fragments the userbase and makes each tiny community seem dead.<p>3) Not enough users. Seriously, seeding the community with posts is a good thing. It sets tone and gives people something to interact with. If you&#x27;re a startup in this space you need to hire a few people on minimum wage and get them to spend 9 hours a day making posts on different accounts.<p>It&#x27;s a shame to see it go.
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arkitaip大约 8 年前
&quot;The site will go dark on June 23rd.&quot;<p>(1) Two years is too little time to create a Reddit alternative (2) shutting it down in less than 30 days is really bad.
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distantsounds大约 8 年前
nothing on the home page or &quot;learn more&quot; link actually shows anything about the site, just that it&#x27;s yet another online community. I&#x27;m not surprised this shut down so quickly, you&#x27;re giving almost no details to the user at all about how it works, what it looks like, or any sort of interactive demo. requiring someone to sign up just to see it in action is silly.
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brian-armstrong大约 8 年前
I don&#x27;t know anything about Imzy but this page traps my back button. I hate that :(
Overtonwindow大约 8 年前
Whenever I see a startup shutting down, sadly, my first thought is: Who? Granted I don&#x27;t work in technology, but I&#x27;m a big user, fan, consumer, etc. So I have to wonder: Am I just missing these companies, is their market too narrow, or do they have trouble reaching a larger audience?
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joshu大约 8 年前
What was this? It appears to be some sort of community, yet the front page offers zero discoverability?
stupidhn大约 8 年前
I&#x27;m on HackerNews multiple times every day.<p>Imzy is a company that came, raised over $10MM in funding, and went out of business in 7 months. This is the first I&#x27;ve heard of them.<p>How on earth does that happen? It&#x27;s inexplicable.
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spiderfarmer大约 8 年前
How do you burn through 8 million dollars in 2 years on what&#x27;s basically a forum? This is crazy.
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lyra_comms大约 8 年前
If you will miss Imzy, check out Lyra - we&#x27;re a nonprofit conversation service which respects language and the reader&#x27;s attention. www.hellolyra.com<p>We&#x27;re also a nonprofit and don&#x27;t accept ad revenue or investment, so please excuse the plug. In contrast to Imzy, we&#x27;re more focussed on conversation than community-building, but this enables us to make our sharing model harrassment-proof by design.
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owenversteeg大约 8 年前
That&#x27;s too bad. I tried it out, made an account and posted and everything, but there were too few people and everything was very tricky to figure out.<p>I wish there was a simple Reddit clone that focused on positivity, like Imzy, but it seems that all of these things are way too expensive.<p>I mean cmon, eight million dollars (in the last round alone) wasn&#x27;t enough to keep a link sharing site alive? How is that possible? What on earth were they spending that money on?
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INTPenis大约 8 年前
I clearly remember when Imzy and Voat sprung up out of reddit turbulence, trying to ride a wave of discontent in the reddit community.<p>I&#x27;m sorry to say I was cynical and doubted they would last.<p>You can&#x27;t force a community to happen. I never followed Voat but I did give imzy a chance and the feeling was very much that they were trying to force a community.<p>Personally I think the best chance of building a community is to build it around a service. Look at reddit and imgur for examples. They both started out offering a pretty specific service to users but grew into communities because people could use the service in a social way.<p>I believe there are other examples of this but mentioning instagram feels silly since they&#x27;re now owned by THE largest community. But it&#x27;s the same thing, they were a photo website and now every 13 year old is there.<p>I&#x27;m sure there are more examples of this. Offer a service to people, something mildly useful or entertaining, and attach a social aspect to it and I&#x27;m sure you&#x27;ll get a community to spring up.
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lowglow大约 8 年前
I checked out Imzy a couple of weeks ago:<p>1. Barrier to entry was a login (I had previously gone here and left when it first started, and didn&#x27;t sign in. I eventually created an account just to check it out.)<p>2. Interface was confusing<p>3. Exploration felt difficult<p>4. It wasn&#x27;t immediately obvious why I was there<p>5. Not enough juice&#x2F;content to bring me back<p>tl;dr: Social networks + open domain communities are hard.
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pervycreeper大约 8 年前
This was inevitable from the very beginning. Disagreement forms the kernel of worthwhile discussion.<p>An argument can also be made that &quot;echo-chamber bubbles&quot; are affecting people personally, intellectually, and culturally in tremendously harmful ways, so this is a very tiny step in the right direction.
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henrygrew大约 8 年前
Imzy suffered from the big launch syndrome which always fails, instead they should have applied the proven path approach <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;course.feverbee.com&#x2F;the-proven-path&#x2F;theprovenpath.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;course.feverbee.com&#x2F;the-proven-path&#x2F;theprovenpath.pdf</a> community startups are hard but success is possible with lots of patience, i run <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.kenyatalk.com&#x2F;index.php" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.kenyatalk.com&#x2F;index.php</a> and can vouch for the proven path
orionblastar大约 8 年前
I like Imzy and am sad they are shutting down.<p>Reddit needs alternatives to it that works better.<p>I am working with someone to open source their Kr5ddit code on Github by rewriting it. Look at <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;k666.kr5ddit.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;k666.kr5ddit.com</a> which is a start with no money invested yet. Look at <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;kr5ddit.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;kr5ddit.com</a> to see how it uses bitcoins to buy Kr5ddits used to moderate stories and comments. It is not complete yet, but it is a good idea and allows anonymous posts without an account, but you can&#x27;t earn kr5ddits without an account. Imzy tequired invites to get an account.
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Huhty大约 8 年前
My team and I launched a Reddit-like platform called Snapzu (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;snapzu.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;snapzu.com</a>) in 2013, a couple years before Imzy launched and I know exactly what the struggles&#x2F;hurdles are in building community and generating consistent but vital user growth. | However, we are extremely lean (all of us are working part time and out of pocket) so our monthly costs of operations are extremely low, allowing us to keep going. We also have no outside funding, so basically no investors breathing down our necks, or any rush to monetize.<p>That being said, our original base plan (like Imzy&#x27;s) never really materialized (because of the harsh &quot;network effects&quot; AKA &quot;chicken or egg problem&quot;), so we&#x27;ve since pivoted allowing us to use most of our core tech (of which we admit we slightly over-built at the time) in a separate (but still completely tied in) SaaS-like service that allows bloggers to have their own Reddit-like communities for their blogs.<p>Utilizing a voting community on a blog brings several previously untapped benefits which I won&#x27;t get into here, but our recently launched landing page at the Blog Enhancement Suite (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;blogenhancement.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;blogenhancement.com</a>) explains it. Note: It&#x27;s still a work in progress and we&#x27;re playing around and A&#x2F;B testing the copy, but the service is live.<p>I&#x27;ve been paying attention to and observing Imzy ever since I learned about it, which was shortly after their launch. Some mistakes I feel they made, right off the top of my head:<p>1. No front page (for lurkers): They force users to join to be able to view content. The 90&#x2F;9&#x2F;1 rule is real, ESPECIALLY in the &quot;community&quot; space. 90% of users just want to lurk and that&#x27;s just the nature of the internet. It&#x27;s probably the same here on HN. 9% will participate in some ways, voting, etc. 1% will submit and comment, etc.<p>2. Lacking in social media: I&#x27;ve been following the @Imzy Twitter account for the entire duration, and most of their Twitter activity basically stopped approx 5-6 months ago. At that point I had a feeling that they we&#x27;re starting to &quot;give up&quot; because it likely wasn&#x27;t effective enough for the time they we&#x27;re dedicating to it. We faced that exact problem, but we split up our content into 15 main categories (science, gaming, politics, tech, etc) and have Twitter, Medium, Wordpress, etc profiles for each. We then automated them using IFTTT using our category RSS feeds so that each account automatically tweets&#x2F;shares the best posts as submitted by our users into said category.<p>3. No real target market: It&#x27;s really hard to get people to stick around when most of them DO NOT share most common interests. Again, it&#x27;s why we made sure to categorize the content so that people that want Science stuff can easily find it and&#x2F;or subscribe to the Science RSS, follow the Science Twitter account, etc. We now also only focus on attracting bloggers, our new REAL target market (in a business sense) after the pivot.<p>4. Giveaways: Imzy was giving away all these plushys and stickers and stuff in return for loyalty. I just don&#x27;t believe many people care about gimmicky things like that and it must drive up the costs&#x2F;expenses that could otherwise be spent elsewhere with more effectiveness.<p>Imzy IMHO also did a lot right. I envy their PR tactics&#x2F;strategy, as they got mentioned on all the top tech sites numerous times. Their devs&#x2F;team made a solid app&#x2F;website.<p>I wish the Imzy folks best of luck in their future endeavors.
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sideproject大约 8 年前
If you&#x27;re looking to create your own community, I run a small tool called HelloBox<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hellobox.co" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hellobox.co</a><p>We started as a &quot;build your own HackerNews&quot; then we transitioned it to a &quot;build your community&quot; tool. We&#x27;ve been going for about 3 years - a plenty of work to do and undergoing a pretty big re-design at the moment.
DavidJM大约 8 年前
Do you think if you pivoted into a niche like drivetribe you could have survived?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;startups&#x2F;comments&#x2F;533ml7&#x2F;our_journey_building_imzy_for_the_first_year&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;startups&#x2F;comments&#x2F;533ml7&#x2F;our_journe...</a>
chrisabrams大约 8 年前
I still didn&#x27;t get my stickers....
GoatHerderson大约 8 年前
What did Imzy do? Anyone know?
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crsv大约 8 年前
The execution overall at Imzy seems lazy. Kind of shocked that a founding team that raised an A last October is folding in May. Embarrassing performance all around.
phyzome大约 8 年前
I&#x27;ll miss the community. Really nice folks. :-(
bbctol大约 8 年前
Been on there for a while, but not posting much as... there isn&#x27;t much to post about. Something of a pity, but also very expected.
crsv大约 8 年前
Overall execution feels lazy. Can&#x27;t believe someone funded this team at a series A at that valuation.
mindcrime大约 8 年前
How did they go about promoting the site? I ask only because I have never even heard of Imzy until just now.
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seibelj大约 8 年前
Turns out the vast majority of people don&#x27;t want to spend their lives in a permanent &quot;safe space&quot;[0]. That was a fast flameout<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;04&#x2F;25&#x2F;a-chat-with-imzy-co-founder-jessica-moreno-on-building-a-kinder-online-community&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;04&#x2F;25&#x2F;a-chat-with-imzy-co-founde...</a>
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5_minutes大约 8 年前
Looks like a wonderful product. Too bad I find out about it on the day they&#x27;re shutting down.
icedchai大约 8 年前
Why are you shutting down so soon? ~2 years doesn&#x27;t seem like a very long time.
jjman大约 8 年前
Will you guys follow the trend recently and Open Source your code base?
javabr大约 8 年前
yet another startup I only hear about when they are shutting down.
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nik736大约 8 年前
Surprise, surprise. Last time I heared something about Imzy was when they were handing out beta invites.