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The Botmakers Who Rule the Obsessive World of Streetware

89 点作者 rpvnwnkl大约 8 年前

12 条评论

sahara大约 8 年前
Not that any of these &quot;peek into the subculture&quot; style articles ever get all the details just right but this:<p><i>Then, in the spring of 2014, the company announced a collaboration with Nike on a basketball sneaker called the Foamposite. Supreme had collaborated with sneaker companies for years, but Foamposites were especially prized by sneakerheads. All of a sudden, Supreme had a whole new audience—one already accustomed to limited releases and camping out to get them.</i><p>is a glaring error. Supreme has never not been a favored brand of sneakerheads, and that relationship surely didn&#x27;t start with Odd Future or some recent Nike collaboration. It goes all the way back to the 90s&#x2F;early 00s when everybody on Niketalk was pairing box logo tees with their vintage Air Maxes and, contrary to the assertions in the article, all these brands (Supreme, Stussy, Freshjive, etc) were transitioning away from being purely skate&#x2F;surf focused and starting down the streetwear path they&#x27;ve been on ever since.
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chrisallick大约 8 年前
I was interviewed for a similar article.<p>tldr; smart young people who happen to discover a very Luddite community and applied tech to buy up product and re-sell.<p>Can&#x27;t be shut down cause brands will lose face if they &quot;care.&quot;<p>Most scripts are either headless chrome instances using phantom is or selenium.<p>The one I built years ago was just a chrome extension with some options.<p>Some are iOS apps with a web view and objected JavaScript.
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technofiend大约 8 年前
These guys need to take it to the next level - defeat the bots by burning them and drop web presence entirely. This is a brand that would benefit from stealing the popup idea - random times and places only insiders know about, so dropping web sales despite being anathema on HN might actually <i>build</i> the exclusivity of their brand.<p>That or take it back out of band in a way bots can&#x27;t easily overcome like 2fa tied to a device the customer can&#x27;t or won&#x27;t give up. I.E. Sell a supreme watch that generates FIDO codes from an enclaved 2fa seed. I suppose you&#x27;ll need to manually trigger inputs as well just to prevent someone parking a webcam on their watch. At some point you&#x27;ll add enough delay the quoted 19 seconds for 38 orders will become impossible. You don&#x27;t need to add too much complexity; just enough to make it impractical for the bots to compete with customers.<p>You could also add randomness by making people accept one use codes for grab bags of items. They&#x27;d have to preregister for whatever items they might want but then it&#x27;s accept or reject the offer in a timed window. Up the risk factor enough and perhaps a human will want to make a decision rather than leave it to a bot.<p>And one more idea: co-opt and co-brand: sell a line of botmaker branded gear sold by the winner of a botting contest. Take input from botters on how to raise the bar.
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pjc50将近 8 年前
Street<i>wear</i>, not ware; interesting typo there.<p>The whole thing is extremely William Gibson: limited edition almost-secret branded products plus high-tech. Even the use of Futura is something Gibson would put in as a detail.
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mywittyname大约 8 年前
Reading about this stuff makes me wish I could trade my engineering ability in for business acumen.<p>Maybe I could create a bot that actually buys from knockoffs from a site that I run.
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Mathnerd314大约 8 年前
I&#x27;ve never understood why this is so complicated. Just do a week-long auction, hide bids on the last day (blind auction) to prevent bid sniping, and charge around the 80th percentile of bids to prevent winner&#x27;s curse and ensure resale value. No bots, no problems, pretty much completely transparent.<p>The offline equivalent with e.g. Black Friday is similar, except you pay with time by waiting in line instead of with money.
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digi_owl大约 8 年前
Nothing makes a guy feel old as reading about fashion...
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isubkhankulov大约 8 年前
These types of bots run rampant in the live event ticketing ecosystem. Ticketmaster and others constantly fight bots with turing tests and other defenses to prevent electronic scalping.
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QML将近 8 年前
&gt; If you have no idea why someone would pay $100 just to get a crack at spending another $200 on a pair of sneakers, that’s OK: Supreme isn’t meant for you anyway.<p>Anyone know how stop yourself from mis-valuating companies and products just because you yourself doesn&#x27;t find value in it?
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darksim905将近 8 年前
I&#x27;m kind of pissed off to this see this article. I was working on something for DEFCON &amp; my CFP got denied because it wasn&#x27;t &quot;technical&quot; enough, yet here it&#x27;s all everyone is talking about.
kelvin0大约 8 年前
Yeah, can someone TL;DR this? I can&#x27;t read the content unless I disable my Ad-Blocker.<p>Thanks,
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Buge大约 8 年前
Streetwear