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A laptop ban would be a disruptive privacy risk

84 点作者 steven将近 8 年前

15 条评论

ColinWright将近 8 年前
I made this comment elsewhere[0], but I&#x27;ll repeat it here:<p>I recently took a flight from Belgrade via Istanbul to Birmingham (UK). Hand luggage only, no checked luggage.<p>At Istanbul they took my laptop from me, gave me a receipt, packed it in bubble-wrap, put that in a suitcase with lots of other bubble-wrapped laptops, and put it in the hold.<p>Yes, I got it back in the baggage reclaim area, but it was cold - <i>seriously</i> cold - I didn&#x27;t dare turn it on for several hours to let the disk warm up slowly.<p>This is making international travel a complete crap-shoot.<p>Take precautions people. Backup your data, don&#x27;t travel with your valuable laptop.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=14436259" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=14436259</a>
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madaxe_again将近 8 年前
It&#x27;s not only a privacy risk, it&#x27;s a <i>fire</i> risk, if li-ion batteries are put in the hold.<p>Sadly, if they do roll out a hand-luggage ban on electronics, I can see it becoming a complete ban due to existing regulations (e.g. EU) that prohibit the checking of li-ion batteries due to the fire risk.<p>I now feel like something of a tit for pointing out that security theatre is ridiculous while one is allowed to carry li-ion&#x2F;lipo batteries on one&#x27;s person, as you could just fold your iPhone in half using a tray table as a lever, and then use the ensuing white hot long lasting flame for whatever nefarious purpose, as they now appear to be closing this window.<p>If one is outright banned from transporting electronics it will be chaos - will I need to buy a new phone in every location I fly to? What about business travellers - are we going to see a resurgence in portable manual typewriters, and flights sounding like a hailstorm?<p>I am so sick of this idiocy.
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white-flame将近 8 年前
Another security risk that the article doesn&#x27;t really get explicit about is tampering of your laptop to install [hardware] keyloggers and such. Just because it&#x27;s in bubble wrap or whatever doesn&#x27;t mean the authorities can&#x27;t pick it out and do what they want with it.<p>As far as mitigation of all this paranoia and destruction of reasonable social &amp; business order, I hope group charter flights become more widespread &amp; affordable, avoiding all the bulk passenger plane nonsense.
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smileysteve将近 8 年前
It&#x27;s a risk of delivery too. The recent outages at Airlines (Delta&#x2F;United etc) left travelers without their bags for days.<p>If I&#x27;m a business consulting company, airlines are no longer reliable enough to ship my employees.
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hobarrera将近 8 年前
This is even worse if travelling from countries like Argentina. Here everybody knows they people who handle checked luggage will steal anything of values. It&#x27;s even considered risky to leave nice-looking shoes in there. Last time my dad travelled they took his shoes and a pack of chocolates from it.<p>I&#x27;m sure other not-so-developed countries have it quite similar (eg: several in Latinamerica and probably Africa).<p>Checking in a laptop? Anybody would laugh in your face for suggesting it. Not sure how we&#x27;re gonna start handling travelling to the US.
aaomidi将近 8 年前
Does someone have a nice guide to do full disk encryption, and other recommendations so that we can at least be a little certain our data isn&#x27;t being tampered with?
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hedora将近 8 年前
Fly to Vancouver, bus&#x2F;uber to Seattle, fly to US destination?
wehadfun将近 8 年前
Probably the best solution is those using usb drives and portable software for data
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fudged71将近 8 年前
Microsoft Surface - does it count as a tablet or a laptop to the TSA?<p>I will be travelling a lot between the US and Canada, so need to decide between Surface or Macbook.
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anotherevan将近 8 年前
Methinks there&#x27;s a opportunity for a booming phone and laptop rental business at airports...
awinter-py将近 8 年前
what&#x27;s my market play for the upcoming decline in business travel &amp; sales pop in productivity phablet hardware &amp; software?
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crb002将近 8 年前
It should only be a battery ban.
rrggrr将近 8 年前
And airlines won&#x27;t profile and interview as does EL AL because why?
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lxpz将近 8 年前
How common is this, and how can we expect it to evolve ?<p>This is the first time I hear of a laptop ban on internationnal flights. Any informative links would be appreciated.
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panzagl将近 8 年前
Why is everyone so dismissive of the bomb threat? I can guarantee everyone involved (airlines, TSA, etc) would just as soon you keep your laptop rather than having to deal with the hassle of scanning, wrapping, loading, and delivering them.
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