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Google's mismanagement of the Android Market

96 点作者 mbateman将近 15 年前

17 条评论

extension将近 15 年前
The Android market does not make me want to buy apps. This is its greatest failing.<p>Apple's app store actually feels like a <i>store</i>. It's fun to spend money there. There are many different ways to discover new apps of all types. Each one typically has as much info and screenshots as I want to see.<p>In the Android Market, I have the category charts that never change, the firehouse of junk and spam that is "just in", or search, which is only really useful if you already know the name of the app you want. The descriptions are tiny, the screenshots are ugly and often missing, and the comments are mostly YouTube caliber.<p>If they can't make it fun to buy Android apps then the whole platform is going nowhere.
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jsz0将近 15 年前
A few other issues:<p>-- There's no in-app upgrade option. If you install a lite or trial edition you have to search the Market for the full version and install it on top of your lite/trial version. So if you happen to search for an app, buy it, and install it sometimes it just won't work (because you were supposed to install the lite/trial first)<p>-- Apps without meaningful descriptions should be deleted or hidden by default. A changelog is not a description.<p>-- Apps that start off saying "doesn't work with..." should be deleted or hidden by default or only shown on the Android devices it does work with.<p>-- It would be fantastic if you could sort searches by downloads, ratings, etc. You'd think since Google is a search company they could figure this one out. Maybe in 2.2?
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nl将近 15 年前
One weakness of the Android market that isn't discussed as frequently as it should be is that most [1] developers can't actually sell apps for Android.<p>Unless you live in one of the countries listed on <a href="http://www.google.com/support/androidmarket/bin/answer.py?answer=150324" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/support/androidmarket/bin/answer.py?an...</a> you can't sell paid apps.<p>Too bad for all those Indian &#38; Chinese developers who've built out the Apple AppStore's inventory. On Android those positions in the catalog get filled up with free, half finished apps that the developer abandoned when they realized they couldn't sell it.<p>And those free apps remove opportunities for paid apps to develop.<p>[1] Yes - I understand a lot of apps come from countries on the list. I still argue it excludes more than it includes.<p>[edit: corrected link to country list]
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Groxx将近 15 年前
So, the moral of the story:<p>Google needs to make their Android store more like Apple's app store. The openness is getting filled by crap / spam / questionably-legal apps.<p>Someone actually <i>admitting</i> that there's a benefit to filtering! Who saw <i>that</i> coming?
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andybak将近 15 年前
Have a filter option in the Market app a little bit like safesearch. You'd have a single slider. 3 or 5 positions (low moderate high etc).<p>Filtering would work in a metascore comprised of several metrics. The metrics would be opaque and Google would tune them regularly like it does with it's search ranking.<p>Example metrics might be:<p>1. 'Spam' score based on app description.<p>2. 'Spammy Developer' score based quite simply on the number of apps released by this developer (this would immediately clean up most dross but people would quickly find ways to game it)<p>3. User ratings (weighted by the rating given to that user by other users)<p>4. Ratings derived from Google's web rankings of the app's web presence<p>Problem solved. Can I have some money for that please Google?
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dalore将近 15 年前
Isn't this just an opportunity for somebody to start their own android store and police it better?
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ZeroGravitas将近 15 年前
Kind of reminds me of Google's <i>mismanagement</i> of Youtube. That's full of copyright infringement and yet folk seem quite happy to put their stuff on there.<p>I doubt they would have grown so big, or been able to win their recent lawsuit, if they'd had to green light every item that went up in advance.
nailer将近 15 年前
I've probably reported about 15 scam or infringement apps in the market to Google.<p>Zero have been removed.
ajmurmann将近 15 年前
The problem is not only the existence of such Apps on the store but that they rank so high. Google should know how to give good apps a prominent spot and rank scam apps low. That would solve many problems without censoring or banning anything.
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jokermatt999将近 15 年前
You know, despite the Android app store having plenty of these crappy "Free ringtone!" apps, I'd still take it over Apple's controlled/censored (yes, I would call some instances of their app removals censorship) app store. It doesn't really matter though, since I can install whatever I want through .apk anyway, but I'd just like to say that not all users are getting fed up and asking Google to remove apps.<p>That being said, damn browsing Google's App Store sucks. It's horrible. Seriously, there needs to be some much better organization, lengthened app descriptions, easier to use and better filters, and just an overall better experience.
rodh257将近 15 年前
Given the openness of android, can we make our own 'better android market' application + website? May not be worth the time investment given most people would use the market anyway, but might make Google wake up...
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Tichy将近 15 年前
I had somebody steal my content and create an iPhone app from it, too. The copyright holders should contact the Google Market about the infringements.<p>That said, the market certainly is not perfect yet. But not too bad, either.
devonrt将近 15 年前
Agreed. The Android Market is an absolute ghetto compared to Apple's App Store. It makes me think there's room for a third party to build a better, more heavily curated marketplace for Android apps.
DLWormwood将近 15 年前
Why in the wide, wide world of sports does a "iTunes App Store" app even <i>exist</i> in Android's storefront? Who would download such a thing, even assuming it's some kind ad-impression scam app?
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ergo98将近 15 年前
To reply to the first paragraph of the article-<p>&#62;Earlier this week, CNET ran an article critical of the permission model of the Android Market. Google’s response to the criticism was that “each Android app must get users’ permission to access sensitive information”. While this is technically true, one should not need a PhD in Computer Science to use a smartphone. How is a consumer supposed to know exactly what the permission “act as an account authenticator” means? The CNET opinion piece “Is Google far too much in love with engineering?” is quite relevant here.<p>Is it?<p>Just to be clear, it is my belief that on the iPhone all apps have the run of every bit of functionality provided by the sandbox. Meaning if one app can access contacts, all apps can access contacts. If one app can get your location, all apps can get your location. If one app can pull your contacts and your location and send it to a web service, then all apps can do the same.<p>On Android this isn't the case at all. On install you had to explicitly confirm the required rights.<p>The Android model is a thousand times better, at least assuming they avoid user fatigue where people simply OK anything.<p>It could see improvements for sure, though. For one I'd like to see optional permissions. When I installed Barcode Scanner I was a bit perplexed as to why it asked to access my contact list. Turns out it's because it can create barcodes from contacts. Nonetheless, that should be an optional permission that I could set to yes (checked), no (red x), or ask on demand (cleared), defaulting to ask on demand. It would make me far less nervous about apps that seem to unnecessarily ask for the kitchen sink.
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skbohra将近 15 年前
the link doesn't work for me<p>Edit: it works now
jrockway将近 15 年前
The Internet has child porn! Let's all switch to AOL!