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Is social graph portability workable?

58 点作者 avyfain将近 8 年前

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ucaetano将近 8 年前
This highlights a recent episode I went through.<p>I decided to delete everything on my FB account. I didn&#x27;t want to close, just delete years of photos, posts, likes, comments, etc. Everything. Then these two surprising things happened:<p>Having used Google Takeout many times, with great results, I decided to do the same with FB. For years I used FB as my primary way of storing and sharing photos from my phone (vs my desktop for a DSLR), so there were a lot of photos there that I didn&#x27;t have anywhere else (pre-Google Photos times).<p>When I downloaded, I was surprised: Facebook downsized all my photos to 90&#x27;s-era 800x600 pixels, and stripped ALL metadata from it (date, hour, location, camera, etc.). This pissed me off so much. FB wasn&#x27;t just &quot;not doing a good job&quot;, they were purposefully sending me a big &quot;fuck you&quot; letter as I removed my content. FB still had all my images in the original size, and with the metadata, but they chose to give me a shitty version of them.<p>This isn&#x27;t laziness or incompetence, it&#x27;s just plain evil.<p>My second surprise was how hard it is to delete content on FB. There&#x27;s no &quot;delete all&quot;, or even a &quot;select and delete&quot;. You need to manually click 2-4 times for every single comment, post, picture, etc on a laggy user interface. It almost looks purposefully designed to prevent you from doing so.<p>There are some Chrome extensions that try to automate that, making deleting 1000&#x27;s of items faster, but FB is constantly trying to break them.<p>So the message is clear: FB doesn&#x27;t give a fuck about you, and will try its best to fuck you if you want to delete content or even get it back. Don&#x27;t use FB as content storage, don&#x27;t expect to have your FB content back.<p>PS: I went ahead and deleted everything anyway. Out of spite.
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RcouF1uZ4gsC将近 8 年前
What is sad, is how similar the ideal portable social graph looks to email with your own domain name. You own the identifier, and you can select which provider hosts your email. In addition, you can send an email to somebody which will just work no matter what host they are on. You have the option of having a local copy of everything.<p>When we look back, I think we will see that in abandoning email as the medium of social interaction, we basically gave up on the open internet.
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wmf将近 8 年前
The social graph is only a small part of it. To make this work would require full federation so that, for example, someone on Facebook could friend someone on G+ and posts would flow in both directions so the timeline would work as normal. Like Ma Bell before them, Facebook will fight this to the death.
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EGreg将近 8 年前
<i>It gets even more complex when we think about people’s private and public identities. Some of my Facebook posts are public and I read many public posts from the media, fan groups and companies. That is all part of my social graph but how would we work all of that? That said, there may be solutions there. The larger issue is how these links work is constantly evolving yet having a consumer controlled social graph may make it difficult to be responsive. After all, think about how you manage the social graph that is your pre-programmed fast dial numbers on a phone (if you even do those things). They quickly go out of date and you can’t be bothered updating them.</i><p>This is a hard problem to solve. We solved it at Qbix. We&#x27;re still working on releasing our Platform to everyone, but for now it&#x27;s already open source and we are dogfooding it in all our own apps.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Qbix&#x2F;Platform" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Qbix&#x2F;Platform</a><p>We are also working on an interoperable auth protocol where you <i>do</i> control your identity and keep your contacts private, but discover them across communities (venues and interests).<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Qbix&#x2F;auth" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Qbix&#x2F;auth</a>
dreamfactor将近 8 年前
A lot of work has been done on this at - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.w3.org&#x2F;2005&#x2F;Incubator&#x2F;federatedsocialweb&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;SWAT0" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.w3.org&#x2F;2005&#x2F;Incubator&#x2F;federatedsocialweb&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;SW...</a> and <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;spreadsheets.google.com&#x2F;ccc?key=0AtXMsLaocacrdDAwTzdPeGdPNlhZSHFMelg0MnQ2N2c" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;spreadsheets.google.com&#x2F;ccc?key=0AtXMsLaocacrdDAwTzd...</a>
Nomentatus将近 8 年前
Interoperability is already settled law (railroad gauges, telephone networks.) We just don&#x27;t care to apply the law &#x27;cause democracy is remarkably corrupt in our time.
marcusestes将近 8 年前
Different social networking applications imply different social contexts. I may follow you back on Twitter, but that doesn&#x27;t mean that I want to be your friend on Facebook.
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