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Photos: Life inside of China’s massive and remote Bitcoin mines

180 点作者 urahara将近 8 年前

24 条评论

bpodgursky将近 8 年前
If you have even the slightest concern about global warming or the environment overall, you should consider Bitcoin a horrible mistake we should be trying to eradicate.<p>It&#x27;s a currency backed by willingness to waste electricity doing useless work. And worse, as it gets more popular, the willingness and price will continue to drive higher.<p>Hopefully China recognizes that this is in odds with their efforts to clean up their environment, and crushes Bitcoin fast before the damage is too catastrophic.
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stablemap将近 8 年前
The original piece in <i>ChinaFile</i> has more pictures from Liu and a similar amount of context.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.chinafile.com&#x2F;multimedia&#x2F;photo-gallery&#x2F;inside-world-of-chinese-bitcoin-mining" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.chinafile.com&#x2F;multimedia&#x2F;photo-gallery&#x2F;inside-wor...</a>
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teknologist将近 8 年前
Vice produced a video called &quot;Life Inside a Chinese Bitcoin Mine&quot; which complements these photos with a bit of an eerie audio&#x2F;visual experience.<p>The noise of these machines is incredibly loud and annoying even in the edited video and the people running these things essentially live in squalor.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;video.vice.com&#x2F;en_us&#x2F;video&#x2F;life-inside-a-chinese-bitcoin-mine&#x2F;55b910f39820ecc47f68c306" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;video.vice.com&#x2F;en_us&#x2F;video&#x2F;life-inside-a-chinese-bit...</a><p>Non-Flash: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=K8kua5B5K3I" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=K8kua5B5K3I</a>
5trokerac3将近 8 年前
This is the first article I&#x27;ve read that really made me feel that we live in a dystopia, instead of it being something on the horizon.<p>These photos are straight out of a cyberpunk comic.
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Ono-Sendai将近 8 年前
Such an incredible waste of power and hardware, for a payment system that does something like 3 transactions per second globally.<p>Off the top of my head idea:<p>What about a system that uses a bit of real-world, legal responsibility to generate consensus. Something a bit like ICANN and the domain name system.<p>Take 10 or so trusted people or organistions worldwide, get them to each run a node, each of which coordinate via the Raft protocol or whatever. A distributed ledger is agreed on by each of those 10 nodes.<p>This should use far less power and be able to handle more transactions per sec than bitcoin.
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dvcc将近 8 年前
I understand the need for a distributed ledger, but it still seems absurd to me. All of this power is just getting put into a slow append-only database.
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colordrops将近 8 年前
If you read about this in a science fiction book 20 years ago you&#x27;d think the author didn&#x27;t know anything about computers or programming.
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tedd4u将近 8 年前
Just, picking my jaw back up off the floor. The conditions there are shockingly unsafe (pun intended) -- all that standing water on the floor? And it&#x27;s a firetrap -- all that trash lying around, no fire supression. In fact the opposite -- those box fans that will very effectively oxygenate the flames. Disaster there is almost certain.
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jdhawk将近 8 年前
In the quest for cheap power &amp; better density, you&#x27;d think they would run direct DC to everything, instead of a bunch of ATX power supplies
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aphextron将近 8 年前
Good god this is so cyberpunk
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lprubin将近 8 年前
Does anybody know why the bitcoin mine has customers? If you can mine bitcoin, why do you need to sell it to anybody other than on the open market? I could see needing investment to build the infrastructure, but those would be investors not customers.<p>Is there value in buying direct from the miner or selling direct to a customer and not on an exchange? Maybe avoiding transaction fees?
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peercoin将近 8 年前
Why not move to proof of stake? Proof of Work mining used in bitcon to secure the network as originally proposed in Nakomoto&#x27;s paper has huge energy requirements. The result is large energy hungry mines as shown by the article. In addition, there is a centralization of governance by the miners.<p>One such example of a long running proof of stake is Peercoin. Peercoin is a legit energy-efficient contender to Bitcoin. It&#x27;s one of the first publicly known implementations of proof of stake has been around for close to 5 years now.<p>Peercoin is energy-efficient and runs on raspberry pis. It&#x27;s been running successfully for years now.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;peercoin.net&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;peercoin.net&#x2F;</a><p>There are also academic proof of stake chains which virtually eliminate the chance of forks, such as algorand.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;1607.01341" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;1607.01341</a>
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amai将近 8 年前
Russia: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;englishrussia.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;06&#x2F;26&#x2F;russian-biggest-bitcoin-mining-farm&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;englishrussia.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;06&#x2F;26&#x2F;russian-biggest-bitcoin-...</a>
api将近 8 年前
I&#x27;ve heard that some actually mine at a loss, since the real purpose is to get money out of China and they can charge fees for that service that compensate.
dis-sys将近 8 年前
For me, the really sad fact here is that they picked that place to run their bitcoin mine because the electricity there is cheap, but what that poor place can benefit from those mines after providing them with such more affordable energy? I just saw pollution and greedy there.
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tragomaskhalos将近 8 年前
Is it safe to assume that this isn&#x27;t quite what Satoshi had in mind back in 2009 ?
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MarkMc将近 8 年前
Iceland has very cheap geothermal electricity and a very cold climate to cool the servers. How does China compete with Iceland?
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m-j-fox将近 8 年前
Wow. So damp. Someone&#x27;s going to get electrocuted. Where&#x27;s Chinese OSHA?
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thomasdd将近 8 年前
What about &quot;Bitcoin-Mining-Water-Power Plant&quot; :) Would be cool!
nodesocket将近 8 年前
Thanks China for wasting resources and being extremely pollutive mining coins for tiny profits. Anybody who complains about the Paris Agreement needs to be informed and look at the real climate offender China.
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coin将近 8 年前
That page has some sort of funky scrolljacking, -1 for usability. Yet another reason to disable JavaScript.
GrumpyNl将近 8 年前
These images are even more proof that a bitcoin is worthless and the market is manipulated.
tmsldd将近 8 年前
The life of a bitcoin miner worker doesn&#x27;t look that much different from the coal miners ones.. at least in this case in particular..
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mastazi将近 8 年前
OT&#x2F;Rant: In my browser, all pictures except the hero image are extremely blurred to the point that I can&#x27;t even tell what&#x27;s in the image. It could be because Privacy Badger is blocking some script or stuff like that but honestly I don&#x27;t have the energy to find out why right now (it&#x27;s 00:45 here in NSW), I believe users should be able to see a picture without going through executing some JS, accessibility is important. This is almost as annoying as those scripts that mess with your scrolling. It is also completely unnecessary since every modern mainstream browser since probably 5 years ago implements some form of lazy loading.
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