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After big layoffs SoundCloud founder says its strategy is to ‘take back control’

69 点作者 weitingliu将近 8 年前

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ChuckMcM将近 8 年前
I can&#x27;t help but feel badly for SoundCloud and their CEO. Over the years I&#x27;ve seen dozens of companies get to a point where its clear that the future is not what they had envisioned. It&#x27;s that moment of facing reality of &quot;If we were likely to win, we would have by now, but we didn&#x27;t so really what is next for us?&quot; It is that point where the investors have seen perhaps three or four internal projects that haven&#x27;t pushed them into that accelerating growth point, and there really isn&#x27;t enough money to go further. So the investors have said to themselves, &quot;I&#x27;m thinking this one isn&#x27;t a winner.&quot; Let&#x27;s focus on some of the more promising companies in our portfolio.<p>The CEO is massively constrained in what they can say when a company reaches this point, so they all say the same thing, &quot;We&#x27;ve got great things happening, really hated to have to let go some great people, we&#x27;re aligning the company on this awesome plan to take us to the next level.&quot;<p>The alternative is saying &quot;Nothing we&#x27;ve been able to think of to date has created a viable business. We&#x27;re now at the point that we are losing money so fast that even our most optimistic ideas about what might work were beyond the point where we cross $0 and go negative. We&#x27;re laying off a bunch of staff which will slow are burn rate enough to pursue both a &quot;Hail Mary&quot;[1] strategy and look for a way to liquidate the company and claim victory anyway.&quot;<p>Hedge funds and other private equity firms will come out and review what things they have and how they might be re-packaged or sold, internal investors will squabble over terms and conditions of bridge (aka Debt) financing to let them live long enough to get there, management will be constrained by this effort to focus mostly on selling the company and less on actually making it a viable proposition. It sets the clock, and when the debt financing runs out, everyone goes home sad.<p>But nobody ever says that. They say &quot;We&#x27;ve got this new direction we are super excited about.&quot;<p>[1] &quot;Hail Mary&quot;, made popular by quarter back Roger Staubach (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Hail_Mary_pass" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Hail_Mary_pass</a>) is a plan that conceptually can be successful but is probabilistically unlikely to succeed.
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josephpmay将近 8 年前
It&#x27;s a huge shame that SoundCloud is likely dying, because large segments of the music industry and literally entire genres of music are solely on SoundCloud. This may sound hyperbolic, but I feel like them shutting down would be the &quot;burning of the Library of Alexandria&quot; of 21st century music
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macawfish将近 8 年前
I wish they would partner with services like Patreon and flattr instead of limiting everything to a stupid subscription model. I imagine that many artists could get a lot more revenue through voluntary payment services than through forced subscription models.
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rfrank将近 8 年前
This seems strange, given that another article from TechCrunch today states that the layoffs bought them very minimal runway.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;07&#x2F;12&#x2F;soundshroud&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;07&#x2F;12&#x2F;soundshroud&#x2F;</a><p>&gt; Instead, sources at SoundCloud tell TechCrunch that founders Alex Ljung and Eric Wahlforss confessed the layoffs only saved the company enough money to have runway “until Q4” — which begins in just 50 days.<p>&gt; A core question from staff during the all-hands was why there wasn’t transparency into the finances or a strict hiring freeze. The message from management was that a hiring freeze would show weakness and lead to people asking questions. That wasn’t satisfying when the company ended up shedding almost half its staff.
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thinbeige将近 8 年前
I am still waiting for some words from Fred Wilson, one of their loudest VCs. After he was worshipping SoundCloud in so many posts and glorifying the future of &#x27;sound&#x27; for (too) many years I&#x27;d like to hear an update. A VC should not just hype a company when he invested but also comment on tough times.<p>Fred, what happened? What did you tell your LPs? Bad luck? Let&#x27;s gamble on the blockchain now?
redm将近 8 年前
The biggest problem is what the article touches on, loss of the best employees. They kept who they thought were key, but the best employees, the ones who really move the needle and have lots of other opportunities are out the door first.<p>Losing your best talent means time to market goes up for new products and quality goes down. It&#x27;s also really hard to get top talent again. This makes a bad situation far worse and its why so few companies can recover.<p>On top of that, the investors are going to push for a sale or write off the company completely. It becomes toxic very quickly.<p>There&#x27;s still time for SoundCloud, it still has value, but they have to make some good choices in the near term.
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matt4077将近 8 年前
I wish I could somehow archive some of their content. They have a serious amount of audio data and are the only source I know with annotations attached to specific seconds within a track. I&#x27;ve been thinking about building a music-generating neural network–something that may work especially well for electronic (and often instrumental) music that soundcloud has a lot of.<p>Unfortunately, they have limited their API access to approved developers, and I haven&#x27;t even gotten a response after applying two months or so ago....
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flyinglizard将近 8 年前
They should start begging for money, Wikipedia style. I&#x27;d happily pay $50-$100 a year for a service I use for like 10 hours a day (I already pay di.fm something like that).
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erikpukinskis将近 8 年前
They seemed to remove the in-browser recording feature so I stopped using it.
scopecreep将近 8 年前
Remember the employee you guys had that said &quot;Comment timelines are neat but this is not enough to establish a working business&quot;?<p>Find him&#x2F;her - rehire him&#x2F;her, and fire all of the fucking idiots that ignored them. They should have sold the idea to Google - at least then we might all benefit from it.<p>Instead, SoundCloud, and comment timelines, will be a neat idea strangled by poor leadership.
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likeclockwork将近 8 年前
AGAIN? All these companies saying come put your content here and then they fold.<p>I still remember mp3.com. I feel like we need some kind of distributed federated service for self-publishing music at this point.
moomin将近 8 年前
I&#x27;ve heard that slogan before. It didn&#x27;t end well.
capex将近 8 年前
I thought Soundcloud would truly become the &#x27;Youtube of Audio&#x27;. But it seems to be trying to do too many things. Right now, there is no place on the internet where I could search a keyword and find relevant podcasts about a topic. Why can&#x27;t Soundcloud do that? Just be the Youtube of podcasts, leave the music part to others.
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9gunpi将近 8 年前
well, laying off the most expensive part of SC + focusing looks like business is getting mature and practical, given the competition and turning from &#x27;exciting new thing&#x27; into regular normal business.