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Wasabi – Simple storage solution

311 点作者 gglanzani将近 8 年前

40 条评论

knobbytires将近 8 年前
Some quick observations:<p>- Their performance claims are incredibly biased. Amazon S3 has far better write performance than their claims.<p>- They claim 100% S3 compatibility but it fails a large number of API calls using Ceph’s s3-test. I didn’t dig into this too far but they do claim “No need to change your S3-compatible application” so changing my endpoint + credentials should have worked. To their credit - PUT, GET and DELETE did work but that is only 3 of 100’s of API’s.<p>- Their durability claims are highly suspect. I would want to see a white paper breaking this down.<p>- Their first round was debt financing.<p>Why this business model does’t work...<p>Most people don’t use S3 alone. S3 is a source for other AWS services. That being said, Wasabi becomes a more expensive option as you have a 4 cent egress fee to access data from the rest of your AWS infrastructure. The only place Wasabi becomes cheaper is for those using S3 direct&#x2F;alone which is a very small subset of S3 usage. AWS is very open about this in white papers, conferences, tech talks, etc.<p>Wasabi is an economy at scale play that cast way too far a net. There is opportunity in specific vertical markets to sell a solution (object paired with compute) but a pure S3 endpoint will never take substantial marketshare away from AWS.
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ernsheong将近 8 年前
There&#x27;s also B2 (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.backblaze.com&#x2F;b2&#x2F;cloud-storage.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.backblaze.com&#x2F;b2&#x2F;cloud-storage.html</a>), which is I think the cheapest of them all.<p>UPDATE: Well, egress is cheaper. B2 is $0.005&#x2F;GB storage with $0.02&#x2F;GB egress. But one thing to consider is that B2 storage is located within one single datacenter.<p>(Disclaimer: I am not affiliated, but am in the process of deciding to use B2.)
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caleblloyd将近 8 年前
From the FAQ:<p>&gt; 7. Your website indicates $.0039 per GB per month but the pricing comparison on the website indicates 1 TB is priced at $3.99 &#x2F; month (instead of $3.90 &#x2F; month for 1 TB). Why is that?<p>&gt; The Wasabi monthly price is $.0039 GB &#x2F; month. Given that there are 1024 GB in 1 TB (not 1000 GB), the price for 1 TB is $.0039 * 1024 or $3.99 per 1 TB per month.<p>Come on you are a digital storage company let&#x27;s call things what they are. There are 1000 GB in a TB. There are 1024 GiB in a TiB.
fweespeech将近 8 年前
If the goal is price reduction:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ovh.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;public-cloud&#x2F;storage&#x2F;object-storage&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ovh.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;public-cloud&#x2F;storage&#x2F;object-storage&#x2F;</a> (S3-comparable performance)<p>$40&#x2F;year minimum<p>Outgoing traffic: $0.011&#x2F;GB Storage: $0.0112&#x2F;month&#x2F;GB<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ovh.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;public-cloud&#x2F;storage&#x2F;cloud-archive&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ovh.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;public-cloud&#x2F;storage&#x2F;cloud-archive&#x2F;</a> (archival storage)<p>Incoming&#x2F;Outgoing traffic: $0.011&#x2F;GB Storage: $0.0023&#x2F;month&#x2F;GB<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.online.net&#x2F;en&#x2F;c14#pricing" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.online.net&#x2F;en&#x2F;c14#pricing</a> Storage: €0.005&#x2F;Month<p>No traffic costs (because its archival storage)<p>The main downside is they are located in 1 physical area even tho they are labeled as multiple DCs.<p>But for high traffic uses, honestly, you can just double the storage costs (i.e. OVH CA and OVH France) to get redundancy while saving _massively_ on traffic costs.
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tomovo将近 8 年前
Wouldn&#x27;t it be funny if this was just a market test&#x2F;exercise, using actual S3 as a backend, just to see if it gets any traction before building own HW&#x2F;SW solution?
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mbleigh将近 8 年前
I&#x27;m surprised the FAQ doesn&#x27;t answer the question that immediately came to mind: why should I risk my data with an untested startup when the <i>only</i> benefit is claimed performance&#x2F;price?<p>Or my second question: wait, doesn&#x27;t this sound an awful lot like Pied Piper&#x27;s product from the newest season of Silicon Valley?
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kevan将近 8 年前
They&#x27;re claiming the same 11 9s durability that S3 does. I&#x27;d be pretty suspicious of that claim without a track record but it looks like Wasabi&#x27;s founders come from Carbonite. Bring on the competition, commoditization of fundamental building blocks is great for everyone except people trying to make startup-scale returns on them.
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mattl将近 8 年前
I wonder how this compares to rsync.net, especially with their HN discount and <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;rsync.net&#x2F;products&#x2F;attic.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;rsync.net&#x2F;products&#x2F;attic.html</a> if you&#x27;re doing the kind of backups I&#x27;d imagine Glacier is used for.
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prirun将近 8 年前
They have a gimmick in their pricing: 90-day minimum storage. So for objects that don&#x27;t have 90-day lifetimes, you can end up paying WAY more than S3.<p>S3 IA has a 30-day minimum, like Google Nearline, and Google Coldline is 90-day minimum. These make it very hard to predict and control pricing.<p>Backblaze B2 may not be as high performance, but their pricing is very low AND very predictable. No gimmicks. I&#x27;ve received many HashBackup customer emails mentioning that they use B2 and have never received complaints about their service.
cschmidt将近 8 年前
&gt; Wasabi storage costs a flat $.0039&#x2F;GB&#x2F;Month with a 1 TB minimum usage.<p>so the only &quot;catch&quot; is $3.90 a month minimum?
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sjbase将近 8 年前
Has anyone here done a migration from S3 to Wasabi, and successfully realized the lower total cost Wasabi is claiming?
throwaway2016a将近 8 年前
&gt; Wasabi is built to be 100% AWS S3 bit-compatible (same AWS API constructs for storage &amp; identity management). No need to change your S3-compatible application when using Wasabi<p>I often wonder how this works. With the whole Sun lawsuit with Google over the Java API making a clone of another platforms API sounds dangerous.<p>I&#x27;m curious what HN thinks.<p>I&#x27;ve wanted to have a &quot;compatibility layer&quot; that mimics my competitors APIs but have been scared of the possible repercussions.
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ricardobeat将近 8 年前
Lacking comparison with their closest competitor B2 ($0.005&#x2F;GB, cheaper outbound at $0.02&#x2F;GB). Also no information on DC location and zones.
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jakozaur将近 8 年前
Storage is cheap on any cloud, the network egress is expensive.<p>1. Wasabi: Storage: $.0039&#x2F;GB&#x2F;Month Egress: $.04&#x2F;GB<p>2. AWS: Storage: $0.023&#x2F;GB&#x2F;Month Egress: $.05-.09&#x2F;GB (even lower if you&#x27;re big)<p>Sending data one outside of AWS costs equivalent of 2-4 months of storage.
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rdtsc将近 8 年前
LeoFS: A stable and scalable S3 clone with NFS support?<p>That you can host on your own infrastructure<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;leo-project.net&#x2F;leofs&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;leo-project.net&#x2F;leofs&#x2F;</a>
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gglanzani将近 8 年前
Not affiliated, by just found out that&#x27;s compatible with Arq and when I saw the prices I was stunned.
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bzz01将近 8 年前
75MB&#x2F;5 sec benchmark results (using internal AWS network to pull from S3!) sound dubious. You can get 4Gbps+ down from S3 within the same region in my experience, that&#x27;s 30x faster than these numbers.
reiichiroh将近 8 年前
On the same page on HN there&#x27;s another Wasabi that&#x27;s a fire alarm for deaf people.
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loisaidasam将近 8 年前
This looks great. Are there any client libraries for access, perhaps similar to AWS&#x27;s `boto`? Having a hard time finding that on your website ..
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yuvadam将近 8 年前
Depending on your access patterns, Backblaze B2 might be cheaper at $0.005&#x2F;GB stored and $0.02&#x2F;GB downloaded.
jasonsync将近 8 年前
Curious .. where (region) is the data stored?
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tarikozket将近 8 年前
Neat job, keep up the great work! There is also OVH as competitor. Their panel and documentation is not the best but once you integrate, it works like a charm and I guess they are the cheapest object storage service out there in the market: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ovh.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;public-cloud&#x2F;storage&#x2F;object-storage&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ovh.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;public-cloud&#x2F;storage&#x2F;object-storage&#x2F;</a>
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jdwyah将近 8 年前
Worth noting the opportunity cost of not being in S3. Something like Athena won&#x27;t be yours for the asking. It&#x27;s been saving my butt lately. Nice to be able to actually see what&#x27;s in your S3 sometimes :) <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.ratelim.it&#x2F;blog&#x2F;log-aggregation-at-scale-for-cheap-with-aws-athena-and-kinesis-firehose" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.ratelim.it&#x2F;blog&#x2F;log-aggregation-at-scale-for-che...</a>
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thoughtpalette将近 8 年前
Would love to hear from someones perspective whom actually moved current infrastructure over to this provider. Would love a write-up and pros-cons after transitioning.
squid3将近 8 年前
There is also NodeChef object storage. NodeChef charges only by the storage size of your instance. No Data transfer charges. No additional charges for PUT, GET, COPY, or other operations. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nodechef.com&#x2F;s3-compatible-object-storage" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nodechef.com&#x2F;s3-compatible-object-storage</a>
bogomipz将近 8 年前
The article states:<p>&quot;Wasabi’s durability is 11 x 9s, the same as Amazon S3. To put that in context, if you stored 1 million 1 GB files in Wasabi, you would expect on average to lose one file every 659,000 years&quot;<p>Can someone walk me through the math here? I specifically curious about why the size of the file being 1 GB is relevant to the calculation.
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mv4将近 8 年前
I am curious what their strategy is.<p>Cloud storage by itself (just like delivery) is a commodity, and if you look at the pricing trends per GB, it&#x27;s a race to the bottom (will be interesting to see which CDN decides to become &quot;free&quot; first).<p>So, without a suite of offerings a la AWS - how will they make money in this market?
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mingabunga将近 8 年前
Just came here to say I think the design of the website looks great, colors, spacing, type etc.
foofoofoofoofoo将近 8 年前
For me, when choosing an object storage service, the most important question is WHERE is my data is stored. If I cannot choose where my data is stored, I won&#x27;t use the service. Why? Because my clients will ask me the same question for their audits.
sreitshamer将近 8 年前
We just added Wasabi as a destination option in Arq Backup. Seems to do that job well.
inertial将近 8 年前
&gt; 12. How reliable is Wasabi?<p>&gt; The Wasabi infrastructure has been built using industry best practices for redundancy in data center design.<p>Sounds too generic. Maybe put in something concrete &amp; technical.
ProAm将近 8 年前
Isn&#x27;t Wasabi a programming language from Fog Creek Software?
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ComputerGuru将近 8 年前
Does anyone have a suggestion for a cheaper CloudFront, not S3?<p>Preferably an option that can do S3 upstream, and support for signed requests with expiry is a must.
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Waterluvian将近 8 年前
Am I doing the math wrong or is this $4&#x2F;mo for me to dump 1TB of copies of my family albums and whatnot into for long term cold storage?
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demas1252将近 8 年前
If I am using Arq, will I have additional costs except &#x27;$.0039 per GB per month&#x27;?
PaulRobinson将近 8 年前
The biggest reason why I use S3 is not price or performance. Competing with them on price or performance is not going to work.<p>I use S3 because of convenience. Build something more convenient, I&#x27;ll switch.
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dutchbrit将近 8 年前
What payment methods do they accept?
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freedomben将近 8 年前
Is there a web UI?
Piccollo将近 8 年前
BUT WHERE IS THE SUSHI?
CobrastanJorji将近 8 年前
CTRL+F &quot;availability&quot;. 0 results found.