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Monsanto leaks suggest it tried to ‘kill’ cancer research about weed killer

353 点作者 givan将近 8 年前

18 条评论

ourmandave将近 8 年前
Isn&#x27;t this right out of the Big Tobacco playbook when they &quot;scientists&quot; in lab coats producing studies that smoking was healthy?<p><i>The Tobacco Industry: The Pioneer of Fake News</i><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;pmc&#x2F;articles&#x2F;PMC5402187&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;pmc&#x2F;articles&#x2F;PMC5402187&#x2F;</a>
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eadz将近 8 年前
It is a real shame not to be able to trust &quot;science&quot; anymore. We&#x27;ll have to come up with a new word for what we used to call science because I don&#x27;t think corporations and media set on manipulating public opinion and laws will give it back.
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Zarath将近 8 年前
It&#x27;s weed killer. Literally poison. Can we just curb our faith in science just a little bit and use some common sense. It&#x27;s incredibly likely that ingesting poison is bad for you. Let&#x27;s leave open the possibility that it isn&#x27;t, but I personally require that people prove it&#x27;s safe rather than continuing to ingest it until proven otherwise.<p>It&#x27;s honestly just baffling to me that people find it surprising that consistent, low doses of poison may cause cancer.
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tptacek将近 8 年前
I don&#x27;t know what Monsanto did or didn&#x27;t do and don&#x27;t have any particular rooting interest for Monsanto, but I think it&#x27;s worth noting that the published science for the carcinogenicity of glyphosate (the &quot;weed killer&quot; we&#x27;re talking about here) is extremely flimsy.<p>Most publicity about &quot;cancer&quot; and &quot;Monsanto&quot; is traceable back to an IARC report that the World Health Organization (IARC&#x27;s parent) essentially retracted. The report itself concerned dozens of different pesticides and herbicides and mentioned glyphosate only in passing. The studies it referred to equivocated about any link between glyphosate and human cancer.<p>(I&#x27;m going from memory here and someone will probably correct me on this, which will be great!)<p>It would be surprising if glyphosate turned out to be toxic, because it straightforwardly targets a metabolic pathway that plants have and the entire kingdom of Animalia lacks.<p>California recently added glyphosate to its list of chemicals that it&#x27;s required to alert consumers about. But of course, that list is long and includes substances that virtually nobody controls their own exposure to, such as acrylamide --- a known human carcinogen --- which is universally present in cooked foods.<p>Finally, and this is obvious, but we&#x27;re reading articles on a plaintiff lawyer&#x27;s website. That&#x27;s fine, but you&#x27;re clearly not going to get the whole story from them. For instance, the lawyers are happy to leave you with a headline about Monsanto trying to &quot;retract a cancer study&quot;. But they&#x27;re of course going to leave out the fact that the study in question was the Séralini study, of &quot;Séralini affair&quot; fame; you can look this up in Wikipedia to see what I&#x27;m referring to.
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akvadrako将近 8 年前
Y&#x27;all should take this with a grain of salt. Monsanto is hated as a company; the media just loves to vilify them. I&#x27;ve been suspicious of any anti-Monsanto news since looking into their lawsuit[1] against a farmer who grew illegally obtained patented seeds. The media and commenters made a big deal about predatory behavior but they it was clearly the farmer being an asshole. Anti-science&#x2F;GMO nuts just latch on to anything without a care where the evidence points.<p>[1] Monsanto Canada Inc v Schmeiser
olliej将近 8 年前
Given the number of ghost written publications shouldn&#x27;t there be a slew of retractions?<p>It&#x27;s unethical, and generally a violation of journal rules to publish another&#x27;s work listed with yourself as an author.<p>Then there&#x27;s a journal editor that they pay, who they worked with to get a paper retracted, surely that should result in a re-review of everything involved there as well?<p>Has anyone done the work to determine which papers are involved and start the retraction notification process?
jonplackett将近 8 年前
News-flash, company people have known was evil for ages, actually is still evil.
mgh2将近 8 年前
Here is a study of 12 diseases correlated with glyphosate, it is not official as in a published journal, but given that even pubmed states there are not enough toxicity studies, that most safety papers are not independently funded, and scientists who dare to say the contrary are shut down, I rather be more cautious than sorry: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;people.csail.mit.edu&#x2F;seneff&#x2F;glyphosate&#x2F;NancySwanson.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;people.csail.mit.edu&#x2F;seneff&#x2F;glyphosate&#x2F;NancySwanson....</a>
tnorgaard将近 8 年前
I see there is a few posts repeating the common interpretation that glyphosate is not dangerous because it only targets metabolic pathway only animals has, so for the sake of discussion here is another viewpoint: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=kVolljHmqEs" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=kVolljHmqEs</a> (disregard the clickbait title), summary: Glyphosate is not bad for your body, but it does kill everything in your stomach, and that is not so awesome.
_Codemonkeyism将近 8 年前
It&#x27;s interesting how the discussion of Monsanto shifted. The discussion was about how Monsanto changed the seed&#x2F;weed business from a buy model to a subscription&#x2F;license model for farmers - which is a disruptive fundamental change. Now the discussion is mainly ab Glyphosate.
_Codemonkeyism将近 8 年前
Walking by a Bayer - Monsanto owner pending regulatory approval - building every morning, with people streaming in and I&#x27;m reminded most people will work for anyone who pays them.
jgalvez将近 8 年前
Michael Clayton anyone?
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nerpderp83将近 8 年前
Shouldn&#x27;t this be illegal in some form? It is morally reprehensible to use &quot;money as free speech&quot; to suppress scientific truth.
brndnmg将近 8 年前
yawn, oh no they wouldn&#x27;t do that would they? <i>sips coffee</i>
ionised将近 8 年前
Colour me surprised.
43224gg252将近 8 年前
Of course they did. Anyone on the internet about a year - 2 years ago remembers every time you mentioned monsanto they would send shills in to defend them and call you a tin-foil hat conspiracy theorist.
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ada1981将近 8 年前
Who actually likes Monstanto? I imagine a vast majority of the American people would support an outright shutdown of their business.
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znpy将近 8 年前
Uh... My grandpa used to use Roundup in order to kill weeds in his cultivation land.
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