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Ask HN: What methods, tools etc. do you use to validate your business ideas?

110 点作者 _maye将近 8 年前
Do you even validate your ideas or start implementing right away? What does your process of validation look like? How do you generate leads? (landing/coming soon pages, emails, etc.) How do you make the final decision whether the idea is worth implementing?

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cercatrova将近 8 年前
I get on the phone and call people even before building anything, especially with B2B products since their phone number is easier to find. Email works too but it&#x27;s not immediate and it&#x27;s easier for people to not reply than it is on the phone. I used a book called Talking to Humans (free) [1] that talks about how to validate ideas.<p>The main way to do so is to listen to the potential customer and not even mention your idea or that you are working on something. You must first understand their true problems, not your idea of what their problems might be, which many technical people especially do and rush into building a product that people may not even want. Ask them about their problems in their daily life and if you keep hearing the same thing over and over and it aligns with your idea, then build the product. Even if it doesn&#x27;t, a repeatedly mentioned problem is still one that could have a good solution.<p>[1] www.talkingtohumans.com
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tmoravec将近 8 年前
The best validation is a deep understanding of the target group and their problems. Let me give you an example.<p>First, pick the target audience you are either part of, or familiar with. In my case, I chose new and aspiring managers.<p>Second, learn about their pains. Talk to them, see what they discuss on Reddit, Quora, and wherever else they gather. In my case, I see questions about communicating and dealing with difficult people and dealing with various corporate processes.<p>Third, figure out what they pay for. Some groups buy books. Some pay for SaaS. Some prefer webinars, screencasts or courses. The options are endless, but the focus should be on what the customers already buy, not what we can easily make. In my case, new managers often buy books.<p>Four, pick one pain and fix it. Now you don&#x27;t really need validation in the conventional sense of the word because now you _know_ what the people want and you _know_ what they pay for. I picked the communication challenges new managers face because I have studied this topic extensively before.<p>Five, implement. In my case, I started writing a book, even though I have never written a book before. But I know there are people I can help, so there is a chance that I actually will. My progress so far (shameless plug, accept my apology and please remove it if you consider it inappropriate) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thenewrole.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thenewrole.com&#x2F;</a><p>This process is a somewhat simplified version of what a marketing expert Amy Hoy talks about. I suggest you check her website <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;stackingthebricks.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;stackingthebricks.com&#x2F;</a> if you are considering starting a side business.<p>Hope this is useful! :-)
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busterc将近 8 年前
Perhaps against the grain, I sometimes like to build an MVP for myself before any significant validation; something I&#x27;ll use even if others won&#x27;t. Then if others don&#x27;t use it, I will. It can be a good opportunity to experiment with certain technologies as well. One such example is a service I made <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;EmailMeTweets.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;EmailMeTweets.com</a><p>When I first made it public I submitted it to ProductHunt and tweeted at marketing folks, with large follower numbers on Twitter, to please try it and help promote it. There was traction but not nearly as much as fast as I had hoped. In fact, just the other day I created an Indiegogo campaign to gauge the interest in paying for the service. At this time, there are 3 contributors for $12 each. Without a big surge it obviously doesn&#x27;t seem poised to stay alive... for the public. However, like I said, I&#x27;ll continue to use the service privately, freely. So, it&#x27;s validated and minimally viable for myself; unfortunately not for the public.
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hayksaakian将近 8 年前
I like to imagine that the product already exists, then attempt to sell it to a customer face to face &#x2F; in person.<p>Let&#x27;s say I&#x27;m doing some kind of SaaS for accountants. I would meet with dozens of accounts with a sales pitch for &quot;x software&quot;. This will quickly help you figure out if what you&#x27;re planning on building is actually valuable.<p>Anybody that takes you up on the sale gets to be an early tester.
swenn将近 8 年前
A few days ago someone posted a side project marketing checklist to HN that has many great ideas: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=14942902" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=14942902</a>
jqbx_jason将近 8 年前
Feedback from others is absolutely critical. I&#x27;m just one person and I usually have some sort of abnormal preference even if I don&#x27;t know it.<p>So I&#x27;ll implement a quick version of the idea that gets the point across to others and roll it out to generate feedback. People will likely utilize it in ways you didn&#x27;t expect or point out flaws in concept or execution- this is good because even if it doesn&#x27;t validate your idea it could point you towards developing something else.<p>This works for smaller features within a project as well. Just roll out a rough cut of it, get feedback, and refine. The product I&#x27;m working on (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.jqbx.fm" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.jqbx.fm</a>) has a live chat feature so it&#x27;s easy for me to roll out a feature to a subsection of users and ask them about it directly. But even if it&#x27;s as basic as sitting behind someone at your laptop it&#x27;s almost always worth your time.
jsloss将近 8 年前
I&#x27;m a huge fan of the interview process Ash Maurya recommends in Running Lean. I&#x27;d add to that the understanding Jobs to Be done (Read: Competing Against Luck by Christiansen) for an interview process that really get&#x27;s to the base progress a user&#x2F;client is trying to make in a given circumstance.
alexayou将近 8 年前
Small-scale test of the general idea. Not even an MVP - test the basic idea as an extreme rough draft. If people respond positively to the general theme, keep testing and building up for that responsive audience. If it&#x27;s good enough, they&#x27;ll keep engaging
jermaustin1将近 8 年前
In my former life I was a product developer.<p>I liked to tell as many different people about my ideas and get their feedback for if it is dumb or not. In that list of people will at least be a couple who would be in the intended audience.<p>If the idea is at least positively received, I might make an MVP if it is easy enough, if it isn&#x27;t, I&#x27;ll probably abandon it.<p>If the MVP is stable enough, I&#x27;ll probably point Facebook or Google Ads at it to drive traffic.<p>If any traction is gained, I look at the numbers to see if it is worth it to finish building it, or just leave it as it is running.<p>I&#x27;m not sure if the Google&#x2F;Facebook Ads are still a good traffic driver, but they used to be.
xoail将近 8 年前
There is only 1 metric I believe we all need to test during ideation. Will people use this? If so, why? This may involve various ways of answering that question. Things like, figuring out your target audience, asking around, taking surveys, asking people to sign-up for updates etc.<p>I happen to hate searching for such answers, and end up creating MVPs only to realize not enough people want to use it. But I think even before MVP, one must pursue getting some early adopters excited to try it (even if it is for free). For my next project I plan to be thorough (hopefully).
danieltillett将近 8 年前
One thing to really watch out for is if the product can be sold profitably or not. Especially in the SMB B2B market many technology products are in great demand, but the CAC is just too high for the product to be viable.<p>You can get sucked into to creating a product that your customers love, but which can only be sold at a loss once the cost of acquiring the customer is taken into account. After making something that nobody wants (to pay for anyway), this is probably the biggest mistake made by entrepreneurs.
bitfork将近 8 年前
If I get a idea for a project og business idea One of the first things I do is checking if where is existing business or similar and go through what they offer and what where price is or if they make any Next write down what they offer now compare your own idea and ask yourself how can I be different and why should customers choose me instead of the compitors
jv22222将近 8 年前
If it&#x27;s helpful, I wrote a blog post a while back that can help when deciding which idea to put deeper validation efforts into:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.nugget.one&#x2F;upstart&#x2F;your-ideas-dont-suck-your-feedback-loop-does&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.nugget.one&#x2F;upstart&#x2F;your-ideas-dont-suck-your-fe...</a>
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matrix将近 8 年前
Step 1: Create a &quot;reverse&quot; income statement to test whether the basic concept is financially viable.<p>Step 2: Talk to at least 10 potential customers to assess the idea. Make sure most are people who don&#x27;t feel obligated to be nice to you.
galkk将近 8 年前
Nothing can beat Excel for checking initial financial assumptions
polote将近 8 年前
Discuss about your idea with people, if none of them tells you that they would use your product (without you asking if they will use it or not), then probably no one will ;)
dqdo将近 8 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=M_tKYvPKN7U" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=M_tKYvPKN7U</a>
amrrs将近 8 年前
* Google Insights&#x2F;Trends<p>* Google Adwords Keyword search tool<p>These two help in calculating demand of a service or product.<p>* If you&#x27;ve got contacts, Random Sampled Survey
streetcat1将近 8 年前
I look at big companies road map, and do what next thing, only better.
SirLJ将近 8 年前
Back testing with stock market data...
alttab将近 8 年前
Customers.
Crepusculo将近 8 年前
Amazon Mturk has been a good way for me to get the opinion of people on potential products.
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