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Eclipses and Decibels

82 点作者 ash超过 7 年前

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Stratoscope超过 7 年前
As anyone who has experienced totality knows, the difference between a total eclipse and the deepest partial eclipse is not just a quantitative change.<p>At the deepest partial phase, you see Baily&#x27;s Beads and the Diamond Ring. This is still the sun&#x27;s photosphere peeking through the moon&#x27;s valleys, bright enough that it washes out the corona, and bright enough that you had better use eye protection. Only when the moon completely blocks the photosphere do you see the solar corona.<p>This is totality. This is where you no longer need (and can&#x27;t use) the protective glasses or filters or pinhole projectors. During totality, you can view the corona with your own eyes, with no protection, and even with binoculars.<p>The difference between a 99.9% partial eclipse and a 100% total eclipse is not 0.1%. It is infinity.
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idlewords超过 7 年前
It&#x27;s not true that you don&#x27;t perceive the darkening of the sun until just near totality. Instead, what you get is a really weird subliminal creepy feeling that something is <i>wrong</i>.<p>You&#x27;re seeing things with the brightness of a rainy day, and then with the brightness of sunset, but the color balance is that of full sunlight. For me at least it&#x27;s very unsettling, and I wonder if other people experience it that way.<p>The uncanny feeling is quite visceral and a big part of the reason I think eclipses just have to be experienced. All kinds of alarms go off in your animal brain when the moon eats the sun.<p>This is not to take away from the author&#x27;s very correct observation that the light effects only really kick in close to totality, I&#x27;d say with over 90% of the sun covered.
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teraflop超过 7 年前
A slight correction: according to some measurements that I found [1], the ambient illumination during totality is roughly 2-5 lux, which is &quot;only&quot; about 45dB below normal. (Full daylight is about 10^5 lux.)<p>I started researching this a few weeks ago after seeing a Reddit comment asking (paraphrased) &quot;my house is just a couple miles outside the path of totality, is it really worth the trouble of finding a different spot to view the eclipse?&quot; The answer is that even at 99.5% occlusion, the sky is still hundreds of times brighter than complete totality.<p>[1]: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.strickling.net&#x2F;sofi_eng.htm" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.strickling.net&#x2F;sofi_eng.htm</a>
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mjhoy超过 7 年前
Interesting. I was in Wyoming and noticed this as well. During the partial eclipse it was impossible to tell that the sun was dimming except that I could measure this with my camera&#x27;s light meter. My friend hardly believed me when I informed her the sunlight had been halved three times (losing three stops) -- except that we could <i>feel</i> this difference in how chilly it had become. It is only as the last bit of sun is obscured that the world goes dark in any noticeable way.
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idlewords超过 7 年前
The main source of light during totality is the ring of daylight around the horizon. It looks like sunset in every direction.<p>I wonder how dark an eclipse could get under optimal conditions (wide track, and heavy overcast all around except in the path of the shadow).
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madengr超过 7 年前
I have a plot of WWVB radio propagation here, for several days about the eclipse:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;zenodo.org&#x2F;record&#x2F;851609" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;zenodo.org&#x2F;record&#x2F;851609</a><p>The ionosphere was doing strange things the entire day, and even past local sunset.<p>Does anyone know of a tool that plots the earth&#x2F;moon&#x2F;sun position on arbitrary days? I&#x27;d like to go back and figure out what was going on.
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marcosscriven超过 7 年前
I went to view totality for the first time, in Salem, and thought exactly the same thing; I ended up putting a jumper on as I felt a little chilly, even though there was a mere sliver of the photosphere visible.<p>It&#x27;s curiously satisfying (I suppose because it&#x27;s affirmative) to see one&#x27;s subjective experience described objectively like this though.
learn_more超过 7 年前
You must remember that the irises in your eyes are dialating as the sun is being eclipsed. If that was not happening, you would undoubtedly notice the change in visible light like you do the heat.
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nayuki超过 7 年前
&gt; When the sun is completely blocked by the moon (which appeared about 3% larger than the sun during this particular eclipse), the total power delivered becomes 0% for a while, which is -infinity dB<p>The total power delivered during a total solar eclipse is obviously not zero. The author even admits a few paragraphs down that the corona is visible - and it&#x27;s what people enjoy viewing during an eclipse. This one numerically inaccurate phrase spoiled my enjoyment of the article, unfortunately.
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Trombone12超过 7 年前
Excellent science writing! It is rare to see such quality here.