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Bitcoin's Golden Future

83 点作者 qu4ntumturk超过 7 年前

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delegate超过 7 年前
Bitcoin and other crypto require a well functioning internet infrastructure, otherwise it&#x27;s just data on a hard-drive.<p>Disconnect a country from the Internet (or filter the traffic) and you&#x27;re forking the chain. Spend on both networks by buying other (unfiltered) crypto. There are states (even large ISPs) that can do that.<p>Also, the first thing to go in case of global conflict is the global Internet. Countries will try to damage opponent&#x27;s internet links to gain strategic advantage.<p>Crypto currencies will be useless in this case, losing all of their value.<p>There&#x27;s always the concern of a bug in the protocol, a solution to the hash function or plain old human stupidity that can crash the currency.<p>I guess my point is: be careful, this is still very much experimental, don&#x27;t invest everything you have in them.
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sbenitoj超过 7 年前
&quot;There are two main reasons to doubt bitcoin&#x27;s viability as an investment....Another is more philosophical: Digital currencies have no fundamental value, so have no place in a portfolio.&quot;<p>There is no such thing as an objective theory of value. ALL value is subjective (meaning each person values the same thing differently). The more you learn about what money is, the more you realize that there are qualities of money that make it valuable&#x2F;appealing to be used AS money (e.g. fungibility, low to no inflation, difficult to counterfeit, scarce, easy to verify authenticity). This is why things like sand and hair make for poor money, and this is why the free market essentially chose gold as money before governments co-opted, confiscated, and controlled it. Gold would most likely be the primary money today if people had been free to transact using gold as money [0].<p>Governments stopped the use of gold as money because they can use fiat currencies to fund the operation of the government (by increasing the supply of fiat and buying their own debt with it), reducing the purchasing power of their own currency and acting as a tax on savers. Bitcoin is a serious threat to that because unlike gold, it is orders of magnitude more difficult for governments to confiscate and control.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Liberty_dollar_(private_currency)" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Liberty_dollar_(private_curr...</a><p>EDIT: Spelling
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thecopy超过 7 年前
Transaction time and energy inefficiency makes Bitcoin&#x27;s future not so golden, imo.
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hxta98596超过 7 年前
Bitcoin appears to be turning into a relatively standard commodity arbitrage market (in the real world sense of arbitrage not the academic sense). The article is right to compare to gold in this sense.<p>People seem to get caught up on the word &quot;value&quot; and then rush to defend Bitcoin&#x27;s use cases and unique technology as making it valuable. I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s a diss when people say Bitcoin has no fundamental value. A thing having use cases or unique properties is not what &quot;value&quot; means in an exchange market sense. &quot;Fundamental value&quot; is also known as &quot;intrinsic value&quot; and is based on the BUILT IN return potential of an asset. So stocks and bonds have an intrinsic value because they generate a return, based on dividends or interests rates they pay.<p>A thing is only worth what someone will give you for it. So EVERY value needs to be in terms of something else.<p>An ounce of Gold, 1 bitcoin, 1 US dollar, have NO intrinsic value because you can hold them forever and they will never pay you a dividend or make a coupon payment on their own. Gold has a few practical uses in jewelry and industry but that&#x27;s not why it&#x27;s important. Bitcoin and the dollar have ZERO &quot;value&quot; beyond being a place to store something else&#x27;s value. Well back in the day a dollar in the bank might earn you a small interest rate but hello 21st century. Bitcoin doesn&#x27;t even offer an interest rate. Gold is not a good long term investment. But Gold is good to have in case of emergency. I imagine bitcoin will be similar. Bitcoin and gold COST you money to own them. The people who make money off gold are the miners and then forever after the banks and security companies who store physical gold for you at great expense. Bitcoin should be similar in this sense as Bitcoin can create a spread income over the energy costs and the transaction fees it generates every 10 minutes.<p>My guess is since 90% of the bitcoins that will ever be mined will be mined within the next 2-3 years. And there will be lost coins. So maybe 15 million coins will be around long term and that number will slowly shrink. The fees will start to be more important.<p>I don&#x27;t think Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme. Bitcoin has a ton of great uses and tech features. And most importantly it has signaling properties. While Bitcoin is unlikely to be the main digital currency people on a daily basis as the 1 MB limit does appear to cause issues. It would be very bad for all digital currencies if bitcoin went away.
vocatus_gate超过 7 年前
The big mystery to me is whether Bitcoin is the Myspace or Facebook of digital currency. Only time will tell.
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Double_a_92超过 7 年前
Did you mean: &quot;Tulip&#x27;s Golden Future&quot; ?
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imaginenore超过 7 年前
<i>&quot;Digital currencies have no fundamental value&quot;</i><p>That argument never made any sense to me. What&#x27;s the fundamental value of $1?<p>People assign value to all things based on how desirable they are (the demand). There are rare exceptions, like when a government ties their national currency to something like the dollar, but that immediately creates a black market, where it trades for its real value, and because of that, the government exchange only works one way (to buy or to sell). See Bolivar as a current example.
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