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Facebook's underclass: staffers enjoy perks, contractors barely get by

75 点作者 heinrichf超过 7 年前

12 条评论

misiti3780超过 7 年前
&quot;Martinez, 30, actually works three jobs to support himself and his family. His Facebook shift goes from 1.15pm to 10.00pm, so he drives for Lyft in the mornings. On weekends, he picks up shifts as a park ranger. All that work affords him a three-room house that is home to four adults and four children: his wife, their two daughters, his mother-in-law, his wife’s sister, and her two children. The sister and her children sleep in the garage.&quot;<p>I think it really sucks that the contractors sound underpaid and dont have access to the benefits. I also wonder why more people dont just leave Silicon Valley for basically anywhere else in the US (assuming they can find a job there) and live a more reasonable lifestyle. If you have three jobs, you dont get to see your family at all, and that is not living. Life is too short.
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fortythirteen超过 7 年前
This is a perfect example of how demands for socialist implementation are a zero sum game. Facebook&#x27;s contractors make the $15 an hour that minimum wage workers are clamoring for.<p>Now that they have that - and without offering any new value to Facebook - they want all the perks that high demand, highly skilled workers get. It&#x27;s a never ending cycle.<p>Not that I don&#x27;t <i>feel</i> for their disposition, but it shows how these types of requests come with no understanding of basic supply and demand.
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tyingq超过 7 年前
This isn&#x27;t really specific to Facebook. How many notable companies have in house employees as cafeteria workers, security guards, cleaning staff, building maintenance, landscape staff, etc?
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oli89超过 7 年前
As a Facebook user who is used as a data milch cows I want lavish perks too!<p>I should really bring this up the next time the Emperor goes on a tour of the realm.
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dizzystar超过 7 年前
I used to do contracting at another well-known company, filling up coffee hoppers and candy baskets. The work is easy, and arguably not worth much in the way of pay.<p>The problem is that this is all part-time work, and it is effectively impossible to get full-time work. These companies also tend to be in far-off places that, if you are earning $9&#x2F;hr part-time, means you are taking a 2 hour bus ride each way.<p>In theory, outsourcing to contracting is a good deal, as the contracting companies have no real HR issues with hiring and firing. They are also supposed to supply some sort of health insurance, as required by ACA, but this is circumvented by shifting everyone to part-time, putting them on 6 month contracts that roll between canceled and renewed, and so on.<p>It&#x27;s a difficult situation for all companies involved. It bothers me that tech is getting the smear for this, when basically every low-wage job has been affected in similar ways.
tmh79超过 7 年前
I want to bring the focus on inequality here to the absurd cost of living in Silicon Valley. There is a world in which contract workers at Facebook making 15 dollars per hour are able to live reasonably close to work and provide for their families while working only 40 hours per week. That future does not exist without a LOT more housing in the south bay, the peninsula, SF, and the rest of the bay area. FB cannot pay the 15% raises yearly that the housing market demands of those at the bottom. If you care about these issues and live in the south bay, please look into volunteering with and&#x2F;or donating to siliconvalley@home <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;siliconvalleyathome.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;siliconvalleyathome.org&#x2F;</a>. If you live in SF, look into SFYIMBY <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sfyimby.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sfyimby.org&#x2F;</a>.
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theonemind超过 7 年前
There&#x27;s possibly a good reason for this. If you don&#x27;t treat your contractors different from your regular employees, the IRS might decide that your contractors are effectively employees and you&#x27;re just dodging your tax burden.<p>So, yeah, just about anywhere, you &quot;should&quot; be able to tell the difference between contractors and employees.
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WheelsAtLarge超过 7 年前
This is a common problem with companies. I&#x27;ve worked as both contractor and staffer. Being a staffer is always better in terms of what perks the company offers on terms of day to day perks. Contractors may seem to get paid a bit more on a per hour basis but when you add up all the company perks, it&#x27;s always less.<p>Also, staffers always see temps&#x2F;contractors as outsiders. It does not matter how long they have worked together. It&#x27;s a strange dynamic. I try to avoid contract&#x2F;temp work if it&#x27;s going to be a long term position. It&#x27;s never pleasant.<p>Facebook is not the first and it won&#x27;t be the last. Contractors&#x2F;temps are a benefit to companies since the company can have a flexible workforce they can increase or reduce with little friction.
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koolba超过 7 年前
&gt; But it does strike her as ironic that the most highly paid workers at Facebook are also the ones who get all the free amenities.<p>That&#x27;s not irony. That&#x27;s economics 101.
gwbas1c超过 7 年前
I&#x27;d view this as commentary on the housing situation in Silicon Valley more than commentary on any specific company.<p>The problem is that, in order for all the tech companies to grow; they need affordable housing for all levels of the staff. This is just as much a government problem as a corporate responsibility problem.
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IkmoIkmo超过 7 年前
So leave. I just don&#x27;t get that.<p>I mean, we&#x27;re literally talking about a group of people with lower-to-middle class US jobs, who, on a daily basis, go to an auction together with a large amount of billionaires and millionaires, and bid against them for real estate, food and all kinds of amenities. To me, that&#x27;s a joke.<p>And then an article gets written about a staffer vs contractor dichotomy.<p>Come on. Just because you were born in a place of 50 square miles of land, in a country of 3.5 million square miles of land, does not mean you&#x27;re entitled to the laws of supply and demand being suspended by a massive subsidy program so that you can keep on living there when you&#x27;re not needed and there&#x27;s tons of people waiting in line for your spot who&#x27;re willing to do it for less, while you are needed in other cities where your family can live much more affordably.<p>And this is coming from a leftist who left his own home town because it got overrun by rich kids with daddy&#x27;s money and expats. I didn&#x27;t like it either. But I also saw that I was not entitled to hand outs in order for me to live in the most prime location in the country, because everyone wants that and that just does not work, as much as we want it.<p>And the last thing I&#x27;m going to do is try to outbid the 1% as a middle class earner and have a shitty quality of life. Working fulltime without kids for 6 months and being homeless all that time because the average rent equals your pay just means you need to move. You&#x27;ve got skills, you&#x27;re employable, you&#x27;ve got income...
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jjtheblunt超过 7 年前
Much like Intuit.