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No excuses – we let you down

57 点作者 dgelks超过 7 年前

16 条评论

bogomipz超过 7 年前
&gt;&quot;At around 07:00 BST on Friday morning, our transaction database began to malfunction.&quot;<p>and<p>&gt;&quot;This server slowdown has never happened before&quot;<p>Why does this transparency not include meaningful details of what actually went wrong? A &quot;database malfunction&quot; and a &quot;server slowdown&quot; are technical gibberish. This is not dissimilar to the kind of crap a traditional bank says when there are problems. It reminds of hearing &quot;The system is down&quot; from a customer service representative.<p>This apology is on the company&#x27;s blog alongside a blog post titled &quot;How to extract analytics data from your iOS application&quot;, complete with Swift code snippets[1]. So clearly they aren&#x27;t worried about content being too technical.<p>We are talking about a bank and your money, why would it not be OK to err on the side of being too technical? Or at the very least provide a link for the more technically inclined.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.revolut.com&#x2F;how-to-extract-analytics-data-from-your-ios-application-ee474a31a80d" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.revolut.com&#x2F;how-to-extract-analytics-data-from-...</a>
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edoceo超过 7 年前
As a CEO of a new&#x2F;small company I want to own problems like this guy does. Crappy problem for hisbteam, but, i can still respect a person&#x2F;company that puts it out there after.
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maxehmookau超过 7 年前
It&#x27;s nice to see Revolut owning this issue but I&#x27;ve had nothing but bad experiences with them since starting to use them.<p>I was stranded in Australia with my card at the checkout of a supermarket and my card stopped working with no explanation. An hour later, their Twitter feed told us that there was issues.<p>Another incident where I got cash out of an ATM. The ATM didn&#x27;t spit out my cash but still debited the money. Revolut said it would take 90 days to get my money back. This was £500. At Christmas.<p>Unfortunately as a result of this, they lost my custom for life.
chirau超过 7 年前
We in Zimbabwe are used to this.<p>The biggest bank, Steward Bank, owned by the much adored Strive Masiyiwa and his Econet Wireless, is offline more than half of the time. They drop transactions and mobile money balances disappear without explanation or apology. Been happening for years now.
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pfarnsworth超过 7 年前
This is why exercising your backup systems in production is critical. our company regularly switches to our secondary data center regularly and runs production traffic on it to ensure they failover actually works in reality, not just theory.
Y_Y超过 7 年前
Maybe that sort of contrition works in relationship arguments or parole hearings, but I hardly find it appropriate here.<p>&quot;At around 07:00 BST on Friday morning, our transaction database began to malfunction. Naturally, we followed procedure and switched to a backup server. Unfortunately, the backup server began to drastically slow down and was struggling to process live transactions.&quot;<p>That is very vague and sounds like a euphemism for &quot;we don&#x27;t know who changed the config file but it broke production and so we had somebody spin up a new instance on their laptop&quot;.<p>I any case I was in a foreign country when my card (and those of my travelling companions) stopped working without warning or explanation. I don&#x27;t want him to be sorry, I want a rationale for why I shouldn&#x27;t switch to an equivalent competitor like Monzo (on the assumption they have better reliability).
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riquito超过 7 年前
To me the worst offender in revolut is that the ui is not blocked when is waiting for server responses (second is the inability to edit my preferred contacts list). It never caused me problems but I always felt uneasy (I use it more sparirily now so perhaps they fixed something). All the other problems that I care about have been slowly resolved. About the issue at hand this is not the first time the service is down but who knows, perhaps they&#x27;re starting to learn their lesson. I used it for around 6 months intensively
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sergiotapia超过 7 年前
No big deal -- their backup was severely unprepared to handle live transactions. It&#x27;s not like these guys leaked private information or otherwise lost people money.
nsarafa超过 7 年前
I for one found the blog post refreshing. Now that it&#x27;s out there, it might be wise to follow up with a more thorough technical postmortem.
DiThi超过 7 年前
I had no idea what the product is so I clicked the logo. It went to the blog which doesn&#x27;t explain what it is. Instead it should go to the main site. There&#x27;s no obvious link in the blog so I had to edit the address.
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ysleepy超过 7 年前
It seems to be often the main database that on failure catches startups on the wrong foot. The GitLab incident comes to mind.<p>The easiest way to run a database is to set it up as a SPoF.<p>You want to be serious and set everything up with redundancy, but then in case of problems it is just too easy to mess something up by doing the wrong thing when switching back or promoting a stale replica or something.<p>I don&#x27;t even know if there are proper hosted replicated SQL-ACID databases-as-a-service available one would consider using for financial services and similar use cases.<p>There seems to be merit in paying DBAs proper money to handle these things.
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roywiggins超过 7 年前
&quot;Regrettably, we have learnt a great deal from this experience&quot;<p>Well, there&#x27;s a weird turn of phrase. In what way is learning from the experience regrettable?
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throw999890超过 7 年前
You guys are great. The largest Indian bank is offline almost every night and they are ok with it. Is there a place to publicly shame these kind of entities ?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;onlinesbi.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;onlinesbi.com</a>
arjie超过 7 年前
I had to look to find what this company does because the top logo doesn&#x27;t take me to the page. If I weren&#x27;t currently busy I might have missed it but I&#x27;m actually in the target market.<p>How do they make money?
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victor9000超过 7 年前
Wait, let me get this straight.<p><pre><code> 1. there&#x27;s no monitoring in place 2. fail over is manual 3. there are no standby servers 4. nothing auto scales 5. backups are not tested 6. they lack sufficient manpower 7. there are no clusters 8. the service is one error away from an outage </code></pre> It sounds like they completely ignored the operations side of running a service, and finally defaulted on technical debt. Yikes!<p>I hope the best for them, but they have to start taking operations seriously.
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logicallee超过 7 年前
What does it mean when Nikolay uses the title and language,<p>&gt;No excuses — we let you down<p>&gt;An apology from the Founder &amp; CEO of Revolut<p>&gt;The last 24 hours have been painful to say the least. Painful for our engineers who have been working around the clock to resolve the issue, but even more painful for our customers who have been unable use their accounts.<p>and<p>&gt;You will get no excuses from me.<p>and<p>&gt;We have let you down and I take full responsibility for what happened.<p>for what is essentially a very minor brief issue. He says:<p>&gt;I would like to reassure you that all personal data and customer funds were completely secure at all times.<p>So I would like your help interpreting why he uses such completely inappropriate and over-the-top apology language for what amounts to brief [Edit: 1 day of] downtime.<p>What is your take? Why is it written like this?
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