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Does Even Mark Zuckerberg Know What Facebook Is?

177 点作者 chrismealy超过 7 年前

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FabHK超过 7 年前
&gt; “We have been working to ensure the integrity of the German elections this weekend,” Zuckerberg writes.<p>Excuse me, what? As an advertising company, you don&#x27;t ensure the integrity of a sovereign nation&#x27;s election. You can at most abstain from unduly interfering with it (and of course you should, it&#x27;s not particularly laudable or supererogatory).
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projectant超过 7 年前
Quote of the year:<p>&gt; <i>But if Facebook is bigger, newer, and weirder than a mere company, surely his trip is bigger, newer, and weirder than a mere presidential run. Maybe he’s doing research and development, reverse-­engineering social bonds to understand how Facebook might better facilitate them. Maybe Facebook is a church and Zuckerberg is offering his benedictions. Maybe Facebook is a state within a state and Zuckerberg is inspecting its boundaries. Maybe Facebook is an emerging political community and Zuckerberg is cultivating his constituents. Maybe Facebook is a surveillance state and Zuckerberg a dictator undertaking a propaganda tour. Maybe Facebook is a dual power — a network overlaid across the U.S., parallel to and in competition with the government to fulfill civic functions — and Zuckerberg is securing his command. Maybe Facebook is border control between the analog and the digital and Zuckerberg is inspecting one side for holes. Maybe Facebook is a fleet of alien spaceships that have colonized the globe and Zuckerberg is the viceroy trying to win over his new subjects.</i>
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Digit-Al超过 7 年前
I can see a number of potential reasons why Zuck wouldn&#x27;t want to be US president.<p>Firstly, it seems to me that it could potentially poison his brand overseas. Everyone knows that Facebook can potentially exert a lot of influence in very subtle ways. How many countries would want most of their citizens under the potential influence of a company owned by the president of a potentially hostile country? It could cause Facebook to be banned in some countries (like it already is in China).<p>Secondly, it could be argued that the owner of Facebook already has more power than the US president, so it would be a step down. After all, Facebook has influence over more people than POTUS. And considering the subtle ways we can be manipulated by social media, it can surely be argued that he can influence people more directly and more powerfully than POTUS.<p>So it seems to me that becoming President gains him nothing but aggravation and stress, and stands to lose him valuable overseas business.
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bertil超过 7 年前
For the record: What Facebook is and wants to be is actually an <i>enforceable personal relations layer</i> on top of the web stack.<p>Uber agrees to send in my name a “Pay me £7.23 for that shared ride” to my Facebook friends, but not to people for whom I can’t prove I know well enough. Tinder shows shared relations with strangers. That is a powerful web of features unlocked thanks to this. That’s why building an API was such a key early change of what Facebook was.<p>Typically, Twitter does something similar to Facebook on the surface (a news feed) but is not planning on serving as an authentication layer, so they do a lot less to address grievers, inauthentic accounts and lately, unwanted political influence.<p>The News Feed was the first key feature, built internally and it boosted the business model that Facebook has started leveraging: targeted advertising. But neither the News Feed, not advertising is the core of Facebook — no more than ads are at the core of Google.<p>Google wants to leverage artificial intelligence to organise the world’s information. That your friends matter to you and that you trust them more, and that you want computers to tell who they are is what’s at the core of Facebook; the recent pivot to communities is clearly in that line: you also trust and are willing to help people that you might not have met before because you belong to certain groups, communities.<p>Ads are a simple and effective way to finance both projects. Because management had to place ad-focused people high up, they took over a bit of the attention, but leaders at both companies know to focus on the end-goal.<p>I can easily imagine Facebook making more money from transaction fee, or distributing 3D-content; I can imagine Google making more money similarly (typically, CPA is kind of that). Both have tried, and the results were underwhelming, and will most likely try again.
josefresco超过 7 年前
From the following NYT&#x27;s article: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;09&#x2F;29&#x2F;opinion&#x2F;mark-zuckerberg-facebook.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;09&#x2F;29&#x2F;opinion&#x2F;mark-zuckerberg-f...</a><p><i>&quot;Are you bothered by fake news, systematic misinformation campaigns and Facebook “dark posts” — micro-targeted ads not visible to the public — aimed at African-Americans to discourage them from voting? You must be one of those people “upset about ideas” you disagree with.<p>Are you troubled when agents of a foreign power pose online as American Muslims and post incendiary content that right-wing commentators can cite as evidence that all American Muslims are sympathizers of terrorist groups like the Islamic State? Sounds like you can’t handle a healthy debate.<p>Does it bother you that Russian actors bought advertisements aimed at swing states to sow political discord during the 2016 presidential campaign, and that it took eight months after the election to uncover any of this? Well, the marketplace of ideas isn’t for everyone.&quot;</i>
indubitable超过 7 年前
Is this an issue with Facebook, or an issue with the society that has yielded the wild success of Facebook?<p><i>&quot;I read it on the internet, so it must be true.&quot;</i><p>Everybody would know I was joking, yet all of this is only an issue precisely because people are insufficiently critical of the things they read. But I&#x27;m leaving off an important part of that sentence: <i>... people are insufficiently critical of the things they read when such things confirm their own biases.</i> People believe what they believe because they believe that is the most logical view to have. That causes people to turn off their filter when seeing something that confirms that belief.<p>Somebody censoring a belief or attaching an appeal to an arbitrary authority declaring it false isn&#x27;t going to change people&#x27;s minds. If anything, it could very well strengthen their resolve as they feel as though they&#x27;re being oppressed or attacked. There needs to be more cordial debate and discussion between differing groups. I am not suggesting promoting a false balance, but rather pointing out that what we have <i>now</i> is a false balance. So many topics are optically homogenous - which gives participants and readers a gross misunderstanding of reality and leads both to less questioning of their own views, and a lack of understanding of how anybody could ever disagree with them.
heisenbit超过 7 年前
News publishers are subject to a certain degree of accountability.<p>When Facebook launched the real name policy and its limited scale ensured a certain amount of accountability.<p>These days with advertisement, constantly changing algorithms promoting user content and global scale spanning all types of legal frameworks and enforcement bodies there is no real accountability. Facebook is a tool with incredible power and access to the power is poorly guarded. Zuckerberg may be all powerful but even worse he is enabling anonymous bad organized actors to wreck havoc. An accident that was waiting to happen and of course it did.
jo0超过 7 年前
Facebook is the biggest farm of data milch cows that has ever existed. How can he publically come out and say that? Yes there are, and will continue to be unintended effects on society for running such a large farm...<p>But<p>Everyone (trapped) employed in the credit fuelled consumption economy needs the farm to exist.<p>Asking Zuckerberg to clarify the role of the farm is pointless. It&#x27;s like asking why a gigantic herd of wildebeest are required for the Serengeti to exist.<p>If you want a consumption culture that gives you, your iPhones and Star Wars movies you need the farm. Whether its called facebook or is run by a Zuckerberg is in an irrelevant point.
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jeff6845超过 7 年前
I had an interview at Facebook where the hiring manager completely forgot about it. Ackward, because he was the one I was suppose to meet in the lobby. One of the interviewers came late and took me upstairs, and between the him and the other three, I heard three different stories about what happened to the hiring manager.<p>However, in the interviews, I came under the impression that Facebook knows very well what they do, where they are going, and what their 7-year plan is.<p>It&#x27;s just that corporations don&#x27;t market that as their image, but prefer to cultivate an image they deem more likeable to attract customers. I&#x27;ll bet that Mark knows this, and what his company is doing quit well even though at some things, they seem in disarray.
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bertil超过 7 年前
&gt; This pledge was, in some ways, the reverse of an other announcement [on retargeting].<p>No, it’s not: giving advertisers relevant audiences is useful; offering customers the possibility to say “me buying a vacuum cleaner was not because I was starting a collection” serves a similar purpose: showing ads to people interested by them. (On a related note: If you sell a vacuum cleaner, please don’t use retargeting.)<p>&gt; The only two I could think of that might feel obligated to make the same assurances are Diebold, the widely hated former manufacturer of electronic-voting systems, and Academi, the private military contractor whose founder keeps begging for a chance to run Afghanistan. This is not good company.<p>No words on whether Diebolt, and the hundreds of private computer security companies who protect government services are good companies.<p>&gt; At 2 billion members, “monthly active Facebook users” is the single largest non-biologically sorted group<p>Well, I’d wager ‘Internet users’ is larger…<p>&gt; For most Facebook users, these meticulously constructed and assiduously managed challenges are the only access they’ll ever have to Zuckerberg’s otherwise highly private personal life.<p>The fact that I know his chidren’s names (and have seem a dozen pictures of the eldest) but I don’t know the names of most of my colleagues’ child kind of defeats that point.<p>&gt; Maybe Facebook is a state within a state and Zuckerberg is inspecting its boundaries.<p>Something tells me that the author is American. What could it possibly be?
cat199超过 7 年前
Also saw on the page:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;nymag.com&#x2F;selectall&#x2F;2017&#x2F;09&#x2F;election-interference-is-what-facebook-is-built-for.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;nymag.com&#x2F;selectall&#x2F;2017&#x2F;09&#x2F;election-interference-is-...</a><p>which seems to hit the nail on the head.
dom0超过 7 年前
Shouldn&#x27;t the title be &quot;Does Mark Zuckerberg Even Know What Facebook Is?&quot;
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