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Cypherpunk Desert Bus: My Role in the 2016 Zcash Trusted Setup Ceremony

126 点作者 monort超过 7 年前

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petertodd超过 7 年前
When reading this, pay attention to section 1.2:<p>&quot;Until the software and deterministic builds are audited, the entire ceremony is a bunch of crypto hocus pocus that means nothing.&quot;<p>I&#x27;m 100% serious, and even a year later this still hasn&#x27;t been done properly.
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runeks超过 7 年前
&gt; The secret key (“cryptographic toxic waste”) generated during this phase can be used to steal money - currently in the form of creating counterfeit coins, stealing from everyone collectively.<p>&gt; As one of those participants, here’s my account of what I did to ensure that secret was destroyed.<p>Regardless of what he did or did not do to destroy this secret, doesn’t this make ZCash inherently non-trustless? If we trust that these people are honest, why not just have them sign messages with their keys to resolve double-spends, rather than build an elaborate system on top of this trust?<p>In other words, the ZCash crypto might be trustless itself, but if it’s employed on top of a base that requires trust, what’s the point in the first place? The weakest link is at the base.<p><i>“If you just trust me, I have some really cool trustless crypto to show you”</i>
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shrikant超过 7 年前
Related Radiolab episode: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.radiolab.org&#x2F;story&#x2F;ceremony&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.radiolab.org&#x2F;story&#x2F;ceremony&#x2F;</a>
j_s超过 7 年前
The Security Behind the Birth of Zcash | <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=14782232" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=14782232</a> (Jul 2017, 49 comments)
failrate超过 7 年前
I enjoyed reading this. It felt like a single perspective in a pulp security thriller. It would be interesting for someone to write fiction from the perspective of a potential attacker.
jnagro超过 7 年前
he uses a BLU phone in a few of the pictures, they had factory installed malware if i remember correctly?
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mmel超过 7 年前
Why does ZCash get shilled so much on HN compared to every other altcoin?
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unabridged超过 7 年前
Why not up the number of participants to 1000? Or 1M?
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youdontknowtho超过 7 年前
i really enjoyed this story. i havent really followed zcash, but im going to look into it now. cheers.