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If you use Montserrat from Google Fonts your site is probably broken now

37 点作者 esistgut超过 7 年前

9 条评论

exikyut超过 7 年前
Seriously, Google. Stop taking Facebook&#x27;s advice. At your scale, &quot;move fast and break things&quot; raises entire industries to the ground in one fell swoop when something is unfortunate enough to get caught in the crossfire.<p>Okay, we get it, you&#x27;re so insecure and your corporate management is so fickle and uncertain <i>everything</i> is in a constant state of flux. But we, the general public, aren&#x27;t supposed to be aware of how much of everything is on fire. It&#x27;s unprofessional when you leak that much information. You&#x27;re not hiding your tells very effectively...<p>Be more like swans. Feet flipping like mad <i>under</i> the water, calm and serene on the surface. Be consistent. Be predictable. Be something everyone can count on. Nobody knows what you&#x27;ll pull the plug on next week. What you replace it with doesn&#x27;t matter. &quot;Look at us we augmented our muscles so we can run faster than cheetahs!!1&quot; is just passive-aggressive and rude. <i>Technically</i> it&#x27;s an undeniably viable way to compete, <i>practically</i> your laundry list of unimpressed casualties isn&#x27;t getting any shorter. You need to look at the bigger picture and stop just hyperfocusing on the clinical, sterile mathematical stance.<p>I remember opening a javascript file somewhere between 2006-2009 and seeing the string &quot;don&#x27;t be evil&#x27;&quot; (including the single quotes, just like that - the weird formatting is why I remember it verbatim). That disappeared a few years ago. Can we have that back? You&#x27;re currently into a race into the ground, and you&#x27;ll be dead within the next 20 years if you don&#x27;t stop.
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CM30超过 7 年前
Hmm, seems like Google may be the ones who screwed up here, by not having a versioning system on Google Fonts. If they did (and guaranteed that fonts wouldn&#x27;t change after being selected), this wouldn&#x27;t have happened.<p>Then again, part of me wonders whether fonts should be updated in general. Version control and regular updates work fine for programs and what not, but fonts are really like images in that people only care what they look like at the time they use them. Changing a font&#x27;s weight or design like this seems like the equivalent of a stock photo program swapping out images because they think the lighting wasn&#x27;t done right or the choice of model was wrong. Yes it may be &#x27;objectively&#x27; better, but it&#x27;d just break a lot of existing use cases for little gain.<p>Still, that&#x27;s just my thoughts on the situation.
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WallWextra超过 7 年前
What makes this guy think it&#x27;s acceptable to talk to people like this?
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gabemart超过 7 年前
I find this a bit confusing. Montserrat is distributed under an open license [1] which allows commercial redistribution &quot;as long as they [fonts] are not sold by themselves&quot;. If people want to use a specific version - and clearly, they feel very strongly about it - why not host it themselves?<p><pre><code> [1] https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;JulietaUla&#x2F;Montserrat&#x2F;blob&#x2F;master&#x2F;OFL.txt</code></pre>
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PhantomGremlin超过 7 年前
I haven&#x27;t yet seen the big picture discussed here in the comments:<p>Sometimes things change because people need to justify their jobs!<p>A lot of people would be out of jobs if their status reports said, week after week: &quot;everything is fine, it all works, no complaints, no improvements needed, we&#x27;ve leaving everything as it is&quot;.<p>It&#x27;s just that simple. It&#x27;s probably the reason why most software related things change.<p>Unfortunately sometimes things change for the worse. E.g. in the Apple world, AirPort Utility was rewritten and lost functionality. Disk Utility was rewritten and lost functionality. But <i>someone</i> at Apple got to put down on their status that they &quot;simplified&quot; or &quot;improved&quot; or &quot;updated&quot; or (whatever) those programs.
tinus_hn超过 7 年前
Why do people expect web font metrics to be pixel perfect? The user may (gasp!) even block web font downloads.
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jacobr超过 7 年前
I understand that you can be frustrated in a situation like this, but do they act like this in person as well if someone makes a mistake or if they have a disagreement?<p>I don&#x27;t even see why they bring up the poor version handling of Google Fonts in this issue. They should send the feedback to Google or stop using Google&#x27;s services.
thebiglebrewski超过 7 年前
I think this is the most strongly word GitHub thread I&#x27;ve seen so far?
dictum超过 7 年前
Spare a minute to do the opposite of this: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=15623604" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=15623604</a>