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382 点作者 1337p337超过 7 年前

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jdietrich超过 7 年前
&gt;Search quality is no longer a core competency of Google, the Internet’s premiere search engine. For example: Two people type the same search string, each receives different results.<p>While I sympathise with the general anti-social-media stance, it&#x27;s clear from this phrase that OP does not understand the most basic elements of how internet services function at scale.<p><i>Of course</i> Google serves different results to different users, that&#x27;s why they&#x27;re the market leader in search. The entire job of a search engine is to return <i>relevant</i> results. If I search for &quot;takeaway pizza&quot;, I&#x27;m going to be pretty annoyed if the results are generated using PageRank alone, with no weighting for local relevance. If an American searches for &quot;cricket&quot;, they almost certainly mean the cellular provider or the insect rather than the sport; if a British person makes the same search, the odds are reversed.<p>Google&#x27;s &quot;broken&quot; email service came to dominate the market because it offered a vastly better user experience than the realistic alternatives at the time - Hotmail, AOL or some crappy POP3 server with no real spam filtering. The things that people hate about Gmail are all rational, defensible design decisions that serve the majority of users well.<p>The internet is a big place. Most statistics suggest that there are about 3.5bn people regularly using the internet. If you&#x27;re optimising your service for the median user, there will be millions of outliers who hate your service with every fibre of their being. If you hate something, it might be irredeemably awful, or it might just not be for you. It&#x27;s all too rare that people entertain the latter possibility.
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busterarm超过 7 年前
This speaks to me on a visceral level. I was lucky enough to have started with computers, BBS and the early days of the web very early in my childhood. Hobbies and later a job supporting 70s-90s era tel co systems gave me a deep understanding of fundamental technologies and protocols no one thinks or cares about.<p>My hope is that me and others like me who are young enough to have long careers (I&#x27;m in my early 30s) and have this knowledge can keep our feet on the brakes when needed, for as long as possible. At least as far as systems that people depend on.<p>Education is key here. Call it preaching, even. I&#x27;m constantly showing my peers how to solve their problems more easily with old, standard tools that fit into existing ecosystems.
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jf超过 7 年前
I&#x27;m relived that at least some people are leaving social media. &quot;Gamification of personal interaction&quot; certainly degraded my health. Quitting Facebook &quot;cold turkey&quot; is the best decision I&#x27;ve made this year.
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Semaphor超过 7 年前
Can someone explain to me the facebook problem? I&#x27;m not talking about privacy problems, just all the people saying everything is so much better for them without it. Is it just me using it too weirdly?<p>I use messenger to chat with people (I&#x27;d love to use my jabber account more, but everyone is either on FB, GTalk or WhatsApp), I read a few groups and use events to keep things organized and I post sometimes, either forgetting about it soon or if it strikes a point reading interesting discussions.<p>The vast majority of my friendlist are people I know IRL, some exceptions are online friends I know via other channels. I also regularly delete people (usually on their birthday, thanks for the reminder facebook) I&#x27;m not in contact with anymore (well, and anyone who invites me to play a game more than once, first time I tell them never to spam me again, 2nd time they are gone).<p>I&#x27;m just wondering how anything would improve for me without it?
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kome超过 7 年前
Beautiful! I agree 100% with it.<p>Commercial web sucks, and what it&#x27;s worse: it&#x27;s boring and predictable. The resistance has started. So many people share the same feelings, that&#x27;s why things like the tildeverse (tilde.club, tilde.town, neocities) do exist.<p>Revolution won&#x27;t use JavaScript.
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IanCal超过 7 年前
&gt; Search quality is no longer a core competency of Google, the Internet’s premiere search engine. For example: Two people type the same search string, each receives different results. Yes, I am aware that this is likewise no accident.<p>This is not an example of low search quality and can easily be the opposite.<p>If I search for ruby gems, I <i>probably</i> want code. If someone else does, they may want actual gems.<p>&gt; The quality of ads displayed alongside various Google services has steadily devolved from semi-relevant to absolutely irrelevant at all times. Yes, I am aware that this is no accident.<p>What possible incentive would they have to serve up less relevant adverts?<p>&gt; telepathic contact<p>Reading and writing != telepathic.<p>&gt; Not a replacement for anything.<p>That&#x27;s a bad thing?
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PeterStuer超过 7 年前
I decided to quit Facebook for a month. That was September. October came round, and I didn&#x27;t go back.<p>I feel better. Facebook lets you communicate about the things you feel passionate about. In a world gone crazy, this often means things that are deeply disturbing, extremely wrong. Writing about these just re-tears the wounds over and over.<p>Another thing: there are so many new dogmas and taboos that rational discussion is hardly possible about fundamental things.<p>I do miss the distant contact with faraway friends, but think I am more sane now.
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13of40超过 7 年前
&quot;Fuck you forever for breaking e-mail for everyone in the world.&quot;<p>Did, uh, anyone else understand that bit?
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trzmiel4超过 7 年前
Here&#x27;s a great article on social media and continuous distraction, looking at these issues from a number of angles. I can&#x27;t recommend this piece enough.<p>&quot;There is growing concern that as well as addicting users, technology is contributing toward so-called “continuous partial attention”, severely limiting people’s ability to focus, and possibly lowering IQ.&quot;<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;technology&#x2F;2017&#x2F;oct&#x2F;05&#x2F;smartphone-addiction-silicon-valley-dystopia" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;technology&#x2F;2017&#x2F;oct&#x2F;05&#x2F;smartphon...</a>
ggm超过 7 年前
I just exited. I didn&#x27;t bleat about it. Maybe I should have ranted, but somehow I did not judge that as necessary or appropriate. Either you &quot;get it&quot; and don&#x27;t need to be harangued, or you are embedded and a harangue is just hater gotta hate.<p>So I just stopped. Three months ago. Not missing it.
jccalhoun超过 7 年前
Someone needs to write a post about quitting reading posts about quitting social networks
wybiral超过 7 年前
My hope is that over time a large enough percentage of people will become annoyed to the point of giving a fighting chance to alternative approaches and platforms.<p>Or a stigma develops around being overly addicted to these platforms and their use balances out some.<p>Right now it seems like people are pulling the &quot;social reward lever&quot; over and over and the nature of the situation ensures that these platforms will try to maximize that behavior. But I suspect that in the long run some form of moderate usage and an appreciation for privacy and personal space will be obvious.
toomanybeersies超过 7 年前
Is there anyone who&#x27;s moved overseas and quit Facebook, and benefited from it?<p>Because for me it&#x27;s my primary link between my home country, where I live now, and all my other international friends. Sure, I could use email to keep in touch, but the problem with email is that it&#x27;s an active communications medium, unless you have a mailing list and email everyone what you&#x27;re up to, you don&#x27;t keep up to date with what your friends are doing.
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dylanz超过 7 年前
This posts title, and the conversations in here, are a beautiful display of irony :) That said, that &quot;Panther Den&quot; patch is awesome, and led me to a description of it and some other pretty interesting defense&#x2F;IT patches: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thelivingmoon.com&#x2F;45jack_files&#x2F;03files&#x2F;Mission_Patches_Their_Source_and_Meaning_002.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thelivingmoon.com&#x2F;45jack_files&#x2F;03files&#x2F;Mission_Pa...</a>
jamix超过 7 年前
&gt; Instagram<p>&gt; I paid them for the app. Then they sold the app to Facebook. Now I see targeted ads and promoted posts.<p>Was Instagram really a paid app at some point? Couldn&#x27;t find any references to this.
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ilvez超过 7 年前
I&#x27;m just adding one drop to the ocean of social-network quitters. Last year about the same time in November, I left Facebook for good. Life is so much better without it. Less stress, less stupid media, less time spent mindless scrolling.<p>Sometimes I feel left out, because FB is so overwhelmingly taken role of event organizing etc, but I still hope that one day something breaks, people take back their freedom and more natural independent communes appear.
phreack超过 7 年前
Well I for one enjoy being on Tumblr. I curate the content I want to see by choosing who I follow, and (hopefully permanently), its timeline is ordered chronologically. The mobile clients are certainly terrible, and it&#x27;s full of hiccups, but it&#x27;s the only social media I enjoy browsing these days.
zaarn超过 7 年前
I haven&#x27;t used Facebook in well over a decade and I&#x27;m not even 25 years old yet. I don&#x27;t think I missed out on much. (Though Facebook tried to get me back in not too long ago by claiming somebody was hacking my account which I had deleted... they also demanded a passport)
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uladzislau超过 7 年前
I think it all comes down to manipulation and usurping too much power over public and private opinion, it&#x27;s applicable to every mentioned company. If you&#x27;re not paying for the product - you&#x27;re the product. If some people prefer to being played, it&#x27;s their choice.
autokad超过 7 年前
&gt; &quot;Mandatory non-linear curation of user contributed content.&quot;<p>I always forget how much this bugs me. I get wall posts from friends saying they are going out if anyone wants to join them, 24 hours after they post it.
dnautics超过 7 年前
I think there is something to this nonlinear curation business... Maybe there&#x27;s room for a for-pay social network that treats attention as rivalrous resource.
EGreg超过 7 年前
Although I could semi understand that rant, I didn&#x27;t understand the rest of the guy&#x27;s blog posts. At all. What is he going on about in that blog?
swlkr超过 7 年前
We&#x27;re definitely in a web hangover that will probably affect more people in the coming years
lmaker超过 7 年前
pure vitriol
trisimix超过 7 年前
Preach
jochung超过 7 年前
A+ on critiquing social media, but I have bad news for you: provincialism is a normal facet of culture because humans are shallow.<p>The internet of old was also preselected, towards the people most likely to have early access. It did not transcend borders, it was a new country. That country has vanished, and we should mourn it, and figure out how to bring it back. But that doesn&#x27;t change the fact that real life is highly compartmentalized, and people want and need it to be in order to function. As real life bled into the virtual, this was inevitable.<p>One of the most instructional things is to move to a completely different place and culture. People&#x27;s experience of the last couple years will be entirely different, because everything that&#x27;s been reported has been implicitly filtered by the question of &quot;how does this affect our tribe&#x2F;region&#x2F;nation&quot;. Famous personalities won&#x27;t be known, landmark events will be vague footnotes, and instead there&#x27;s a whole parallel universe of facts and people. Everything you thought you knew is wrong.<p>The internet is a poor fit for humanity. Good luck in getting away from that fact without feeling alienated from everyone around you. They don&#x27;t like Cassandras and they don&#x27;t like reality.
BucketSort超过 7 年前
I disagree with mostly everything here, which surprises me since I&#x27;m usually in line with most highly voted opinion pieces on here. I&#x27;d like to say something in particular about Facebook. I maintain a strict rule of only being friends with people I care about. It allows me to keep up with my family and friends, discuss local community events and news, and keep up with the local music scene. My belief is that a lot of people hate Facebook because they don&#x27;t really like the people in their life. It makes me happy seeing updates from my community and family on a daily basis. Yes, Facebook is a tech company with the intention of making money off its users, but that&#x27;s the nature of the game, I don&#x27;t feel this is implicitly evil. It seems like people obsess about the negative of everything these days. I choose to focus on the positive and refuse to harbor such negative feelings as the author of this post does. The world is both a horror and dream, your experience and perspective collapses that duality. Be positive. Focus on the love, not hate. Bias the collapse towards a dream.
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draw_down超过 7 年前
Oh, I understand it just fine. But forgive me if I don’t find “fuck Google because the internet used to be cooler” to be a particularly compelling sentiment.
dingo_bat超过 7 年前
&gt; Instagram<p>&gt; I paid them for the app.<p>What? IG is a paid app?
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