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Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

62 点作者 superchink超过 7 年前

20 条评论

tyteen4a03超过 7 年前
The only reason I&#x27;m staying with macOS is because it is the only UNIX distribution that doesn&#x27;t look downright ugly. (Sorry Linux, none of your distros match up to Apple&#x27;s offering)<p>I&#x27;ve had lots of teething issues with High Sierra (especially with APFS) and I certainly don&#x27;t like the new butterfly keyboard in the new MacBook Pros. But on the other hand, they&#x27;ve got the best gesture controls. With Windows 10 you can go far with precision touchpads, but I have yet to use it enough to say whether I like it or not. Screenshot shortcuts (Cmd+Shift+4) is another thing I use on a daily basis that&#x27;s still not in Windows 10.<p>When my 2014 MacBook Pro is due for replacement, Windows might be a contender. But that&#x27;s probably a few more years down the road (hopefully).
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lz400超过 7 年前
I&#x27;ve recently switched from an old Mac Pro to a Lenovo x1 carbon (QHD, 16gb RAM, 512 SSD, i7). It was half the price of the equivalent current Mac Pro, with more ports and better battery life, no gimmicky touch bar BS and a <i>much</i> better keyboard imho (although the trackpad is worse).<p>Software wise, I use Windows 10 with the linux subsystem + a Linux VM (Elementary OS). I must confess both Windows and Linux are still a bit behind in hidpi support and the linux subsystem is not as well integrated as a MacOS console but I&#x27;m in general quite happy and while Apple designs these overpriced underpowered laptops with horrible features I can&#x27;t really go back, even though the software stack might still be a little bit better for developers.
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aaossa超过 7 年前
Why is this flagged? It seems like an opinion from an informed user, an opinion like many others I&#x27;ve read in HN. Also, it was an interesting read for me.
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jshaqaw超过 7 年前
The Mac platform is comatose and we all know it. The author is dead right with his points. I switched to Mac about 10 years ago and was blown away by how amazing it was. A year ago I got a Windows machine at work. At first I was horrified by the idea but Windows has come so far in the last few years. It’s a perfectly fine platform now and has largely caught up.
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steanne超过 7 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=13797042" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=13797042</a>
api_or_ipa超过 7 年前
Nothing more than bitching, moaning, complaining and fanboying about ecosystems. Sure, there are issues in the mac ecosystem that frustrate me but the mac ecosystem, on the whole, is an excellent system that works great for most people. Plus, there are a large number of 3rd party solutions to tailor the experience to your needs.<p>Since we&#x27;re allowing fanboying, Windows is still by far the biggest pile of shit to work on and lags way behind Linux or Mac in developer experience. To me the linux subsystem is just another attempt to save a sinking ship. The author would be way better off getting comfortable in hisfavourite flavour of linux and build the environment exactly as he&#x27;d like.
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sfled超过 7 年前
Apple&#x27;s best innovations have been in the form of exploiting tax shelters.
gremlinsinc超过 7 年前
Yuck... Why not try arch linux? Much better... imho. Antergos is a good user friendly distro that I highly recommend.<p>Why is it always windows vs apple..when linux -- esp for tech savvy folks&#x2F;developers is so much better?
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microcolonel超过 7 年前
Microsoft has also given up, it seems. They recently removed MS Paint, and suggested that Paint3D would be its replacement. Paint3D can not be removed (it will reinstall itself), and inserts a firewall rule(!) presumably to help call home.<p>Even the &quot;Enterprise&quot; editions of Windows 10 don&#x27;t respect settings correctly, and happily engage in high-risk always-on data collection at the expense of whoever owns the internet connection. They&#x27;ve even backported this misfeature to Windows 7 as an automatic update, as far as I&#x27;m told.<p><i>And I might be saying that this was all okay in the long run, if the quality of Windows had actually improved as a result of this wholesale mandatory data collection, but to my eyes, it has gotten worse if anything.</i><p>All that being said, I&#x27;d agree that Microsoft is (if you can stomach all of this) at least trying to maintain a desktop operating system. &quot;macOS&quot; has completely lost its way. When a new release comes out, you don&#x27;t get <i>fewer bugs</i>, you just get <i>different bugs</i> because they apparently keep rewriting everything.<p>Frankly, after having used every version of both macOS and Windows in the last 15 years, some extensively in a professional setting, I&#x27;m glad I get to use Linux at home (and 95% of the time at work). If things are broken, it&#x27;s at least usually because they never worked to begin with, which is a much more hopeful position, especially being the sort of developer who doesn&#x27;t mind digging in a bit to fix something or at least write an excellent bug report.
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rayiner超过 7 年前
What is there left to do on the desktop? Where recent Apple machines shine is fitting into a really good ecosystem. I can receive a text on my Mac, iPhone, iPad, or Watch. I can pull out my Mac and it instantly connects to the LTE on my iPad. It’s seamless and it works with no configuration. Windows is still not there yet.
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fori1to10超过 7 年前
Linux! I began as a Windows only user, then switched to Linux and never looked back. Now I have been using a Mac for the last couple of months. At first it felt pretty slick (the touchpad is awesome), but after a while, I just want my precious Linux back.
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MuppetMaster42超过 7 年前
At my startup we just bought 4 new 2017 13&quot; MBPs. We bought some expensive USB c to HDMI adapters so we could connect two monitors to them.<p>3 out of the 4 MBPs have a fault which causes the second screen to flicker and bug out. We tried every combination of the adapters but the 3 MBPs were consistently faulty.<p>After searching the web, it turns out this is a very common defect in them since at least 2016.<p>The repairs will be covered by Apple care, but it doesn&#x27;t excuse the fact that our brand new laptops have to be sent for repairs before they&#x27;re even used.<p>Plus we&#x27;ve lost time whilst we wait for them to be fixed.<p>Learned the hard way to make sure we buy stock in advance so we can test and repair it before it&#x27;s needed.
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woudsma超过 7 年前
(opinionated)<p>why i stay with apple (so far), all my macbooks lasted 4-6+ years so far - with pretty much 0% performance loss, UNIX(!!), and stuff just works. also i don&#x27;t want to deal with anti-virus software, an ugly command line interface, and terrible UI design in general.<p>got my macbook screen + motherboard replaced for free, i didn&#x27;t bring a receipt, 2.5yrs after i got it. done in 4 days. that&#x27;s pretty awesome customer service IMO.<p>not that enthusiastic about the latest MBP&#x27;s though, let us have some ports and physical escape key pls
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dizzydes超过 7 年前
Web app dev here.<p>Used Ubuntu on my old thinkpad. Bought a newer thinkpad and the drivers wouldn&#x27;t work for ubuntu. Reluctantly stuck with the pre-installed Win 10 with new Ubuntu Bash extension (I wanted to stick with linux command line) and haven&#x27;t looked back.<p>Apart from some issues with Docker (which I don&#x27;t use anyways but I&#x27;m sure some of you do) haven&#x27;t noticed any real issues developing exactly as I did on Ubuntu :)
nmstoker超过 7 年前
Give KDE Plasma a shot! It&#x27;s pretty good looking, works with a range of Linux&#x27;s and there&#x27;s even their own distro Neon now. I use it with Arch and it&#x27;s a great combo!
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doall超过 7 年前
The main reason I&#x27;m still sticking to Mac is because I sometimes do iOS app development and I want first class support for it.
Arubis超过 7 年前
&quot;Why I cut off my nose to spite my face&quot;
singularity2001超过 7 年前
dire warning: ubuntu for Windows isn&#x27;t production ready yet
sillysaurus3超过 7 年前
Got a Macbook Pro in 2016. As of today, the E, R, and T keys have all stopped working. Apple wants $500 for a logic board replacement.<p>It was fine when it was just the R key. Sort of. I set up bash scripts to copy-paste &quot;r&quot; to my clipboard, and just pressed command-V instead of &quot;r&quot;. But then the T key went out.
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dillera超过 7 年前
I don&#x27;t understand what the author wants to actually do with his Mac other than screw around with VR.<p>What feature is lacking today in OSX that stops any developer from uh actually coding and working? What do you want Apple to add? Oh, wait for it....<p>Stickers in iMessage? You really want that? I did a spit take when I read this and then I realized this was nothing but some click-bait.
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