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Germany bans children's smartwatches

365 点作者 watbe超过 7 年前

16 条评论

detaro超过 7 年前
Just to clarify, since this article just talks about smartwatches in general: The issue are watches that allow someone to remotely listen in, not all variations of smart watches for kids. They are banned for that ability, not for general concerns about IoT security.<p>Hidden listening devices (devices with listening capability that are disguised as other harmless items) are illegal to possess or sell in Germany under existing law. The regulatory agency for this just made a press release pointing out this specific device category and that they have taken action against sellers.<p>German press release: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bundesnetzagentur.de&#x2F;SharedDocs&#x2F;Pressemitteilungen&#x2F;DE&#x2F;2017&#x2F;17112017_Verbraucherschutz.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bundesnetzagentur.de&#x2F;SharedDocs&#x2F;Pressemitteilung...</a>
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germanier超过 7 年前
German law prohibits &quot;transmitting equipment which, by its form, purports to be another object or is disguised under an object of daily use and, due to such circumstances, is particularly suitable and intended for intercepting the non-publicly spoken words of another person without their detection&quot; (§ 90 TKG). This was the basis for this statement by the regulator and explains why it was not restricted to certain uses. It was not based on insecurity of those devices. Even if they were perfectly secure that would not change anything.
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creep超过 7 年前
This may be an unpopular opinion, but I agree with the decision. Perhaps this will push the producers of such devices to up their privacy game, and in the future there should be security audits before allowing them back on the market. Regulation of production would be more difficult and more liable to error than if a producer were forced to prove itself reliable and trustworthy before being allowed to sell products to children.<p>For me as well this is an issue of high concern. Many parents blindly put faith in technology in their children&#x27;s hands (especially in this case, where the smartwatches are marketed as a safety feature), but this may now encourage parents to be more mindful as to such decisions. In our society, we have a ravenous competition for who can grab children&#x27;s attention and keep it. Perhaps if the competitors are willing to prove they have products that will actually improve a child&#x27;s well-being, this game wouldn&#x27;t be as odd as it seems to me now.<p>edit: I see now that this is only a ban on smartwatches with recording&#x2F;audio capability. This makes my point somewhat irrelevant.
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baxtr超过 7 年前
Apart from the privacy issues: my niece got a “smartwatch” recently at the age of 5 with many games installed on it. She was instantly addicted to it. After she was nearly ran over by a car because she looked at the thing instead of left&#x2F;right at a street her parents got rid of that thing. They said it was straight out of hell...
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samaritan17超过 7 年前
I know that my voice will be in a minority, but I would absolutely forbid the use of smart devices for children under 14 years old.
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albertgoeswoof超过 7 年前
The market is not self regulating here. Most parents cannot know or understand the security issues behind these devices, and are unable to make an informed decision on the risks.<p>In that respect, it makes total sense to put a blanket ban on these until regulations can put put in place that only allow the sale of devices that respect privacy.<p>At the end of the day if you really want a smartwatch on your child you can just buy one anyway.
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TazeTSchnitzel超过 7 年前
GPS trackers for kids should be banned altogether. At best they&#x27;re for helicopter parents, at worst they are the favourite tool of the abuser. A healthy upbringing requires trust.
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whatyoucantsay超过 7 年前
As frustrating as their rigid concerns about privacy have been, one day we may all be thanking the Germans for their vigour in resisting the inevitable.
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hcurtiss超过 7 年前
What an odd solution to the problem.
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tritium超过 7 年前
The ban puts manufacturers on notice, but in reality, devices are becoming so ambiguously advanced from a technical perspective, that &quot;<i>smart</i>&quot; is not an adequate adjective to describe all that myriad use-cases and features that represent a hazard to any naive user (whether they are children or not).<p>Such a premise is also inadequate to address the reality that an adult parent or guardian might let their child handle sufficiently advanced devices, unwittingly harming their children and themselves by failing to understand the product they employ. What about placing a child in a &quot;<i>smart</i>&quot; car? How do you anticipate protecting the safety and privacy of anyone under such circumstances?
xxsyys超过 7 年前
The report from the original findings:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fil.forbrukerradet.no&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2017&#x2F;10&#x2F;watchout-rapport-october-2017.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fil.forbrukerradet.no&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2017&#x2F;10&#x2F;wat...</a>
herf超过 7 年前
If your young child gets lost, why is a watch that reports GPS once an hour a bad thing?<p>This is very different than spying on a teacher or recording audio.
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briandear超过 7 年前
Simple question: why does the government need to ban this? Can’t people make their own decisions?<p>We have given government too much power. They ought not be our mommies.
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PatientTrades超过 7 年前
On one hand it is a good decision by Germany, but on the other hand its essentially telling parents that the government knows more about what your kids should and shouldn&#x27;t wear than you do. I think a better approach would have been to raise awareness through a PSA about the dangers of children wearing these devices instead of an outright ban.
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rhema超过 7 年前
&gt; &quot;According to our research, parents&#x27; watches are also used to listen to teachers in the classroom.&quot;<p>I wonder why they want to ban them outright instead of not allowing them in schools. It&#x27;s also not clear from the article if they are banning particular, poorly secured smart watches, or all smart watches for kids altogether. The former seems more reasonable.
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