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Amazon’s Seattle campus is using a data center next door as a furnace

75 点作者 ehllo超过 7 年前

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semi-extrinsic超过 7 年前
Waste heat usage has been a thing since around the time we invented the steam engine.<p>Regenerative heating was in fact key to the first industrial revolution, it was the only way to make blast furnaces with high enough temperature and power.<p>It&#x27;s only recently that datacenter power usage (and thus waste heat) has become large enough for waste heat usage to be interesting.
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nicpottier超过 7 年前
I have a winter cabin up in the mountains near Seattle, which so happens to have some of the cheapest electricity in the world. (there are quite a few cryptocurrency mines nearby) Though we generally heat the place using a modern, efficient wood stove, I&#x27;ve half seriously been pondering buying a few graphics cards and doing some Ethereum mining to heat the basement. If I wasn&#x27;t a bit scared about it setting the place on fire I&#x27;d probably do it, but pretty sure I&#x27;d end up heating the place for free after a season.
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whatusername超过 7 年前
IBM&#x2F;GIB-Services used a DC to heat a municipal swimming pool in 2008: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.datacenterknowledge.com&#x2F;archives&#x2F;2008&#x2F;04&#x2F;02&#x2F;data-center-used-to-heat-swimming-pool" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.datacenterknowledge.com&#x2F;archives&#x2F;2008&#x2F;04&#x2F;02&#x2F;data-...</a>
hdkrgr超过 7 年前
Technical University Munich has been doing this since at least 2011 to heat half of their campus: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.lrz.de&#x2F;services&#x2F;compute&#x2F;supermuc&#x2F;systemdescription&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.lrz.de&#x2F;services&#x2F;compute&#x2F;supermuc&#x2F;systemdescripti...</a> (see section on warm water cooling)
lclarkmichalek超过 7 年前
FB is doing something similar in Denmark, heating 6900 homes: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.decentralized-energy.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;2017&#x2F;09&#x2F;facebook-data-center-to-heat-danish-city.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.decentralized-energy.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;2017&#x2F;09&#x2F;faceboo...</a>
bartkappenburg超过 7 年前
See Nerdalize[0]<p>From their site: Heat your home with cloud servers!<p>The CloudBox contains powerful servers, used by companies and researchers for their computations. The produced heat is used to heat up the water in your home. You get free hot water and save on your gas bill. And you contribute to an enormous reduction of CO2 emissions!<p>I think that’s a really nice concept!<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nerdalize.com&#x2F;heating&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nerdalize.com&#x2F;heating&#x2F;</a>
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scosman超过 7 年前
Dev 1: it&#x27;s kinda cold in the office, should we call ops?<p>Dev 2: naaa, just spin up a cluster if c5.18xls
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spatten超过 7 年前
Telus, the big phone company and ISP in British Columbia, does this in downtown Vancouver[1].<p>IIRC, I first heard about this in Work Like Nature[2][3]<p>[1]: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.vancouversun.com&#x2F;g00&#x2F;technology&#x2F;telus+million+development+will+waste+heat+from+nearby+data+centre&#x2F;8028880&#x2F;story.html?i10c.encReferrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNhLw%3D%3D" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.vancouversun.com&#x2F;g00&#x2F;technology&#x2F;telus+million+dev...</a><p>[2]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;leanpub.com&#x2F;worklikenature" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;leanpub.com&#x2F;worklikenature</a><p>[3]: I have a double conflict of interest here. The author is my wife, and Leanpub is my startup.
mschuster91超过 7 年前
Wonder if it&#x27;s feasible to sell Bitcoin mining rigs doubling as a heat generator... for what its worth they could pay themselves.
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IgorPartola超过 7 年前
I actually would love to heat my basement area with a mining rig. Last time I mined stuff was before ASICs for BitCoin were a thing. Is it possible to GPU mine stuff nowadays in a way that&#x27;s even remotely profitable, when you count the savings on heat? My current electric rate is just under $0.095.
sathackr超过 7 年前
Relevant: Bitcoin Boiler<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.hotmine.io" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.hotmine.io</a>
cprecioso超过 7 年前
Just went a few days ago to the TU Delft incubator and they showed us the whole building gets hot water with a bunch of servers doing intense calculations. The startup that places these servers has really low prices for cloud computing because of this.
candiodari超过 7 年前
Using things that need cooling, datacenters, factories, mines, ... has a very long history.
sparcpile超过 7 年前
A dot-com back in the last 90s that a friend of mine ran with a Sun E10K proposed selling the hot air to a pizza restaurant that was next door.<p>The restaurant ended up declining because air was too dirty and could not be for cooking.
msl09超过 7 年前
Haha, I remembered that people have proposed that solution many times and I was about to ask what changed before reading the comments.
moonbug22超过 7 年前
CHP was invented about an hour after the steam engine. FFS.
producernyc超过 7 年前
Dealing with waste has been an issue we&#x27;ve been dealing with since the dawn of the industrial revolution.