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Now that the FCC has repealed net neutrality, let’s adopt it in California

457 点作者 e_hup超过 7 年前

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cletus超过 7 年前
I&#x27;m all in favour of treating Internet access as the &quot;fourth utility&quot;. It&#x27;s clear it&#x27;s become almost as essential to modern life as electricity.<p>I do however find the doom and gloom prognostications around Title II repeal to be incredibly hyperbolic and unhelpful. Fact is, Title II was only introduced in 2015. It&#x27;s not like repeal in 2017 is going to end the Internet overnight.<p>There are three problems here:<p>1. The US has a harebrained notion of &quot;competition&quot; in creating regional monopolies.<p>2. It actually doesn&#x27;t make much sense to build multiple last-mile networks. This is called an overbuild and is rather wasteful given the capex involved. It&#x27;s also why strict rules are in place for utilities: it underscores the fact that utilities are monopolies and seeks to prevent overbuilds.<p>3. ISPs have been allowed to frame the debate on peering with outright falsehoods. Specifically, the likes of Comcast claim that it&#x27;s &quot;unfair&quot; that the likes of Netflix can &quot;push&quot; data onto their network for free no less. Netflix of course isn&#x27;t pushing anything. Comcast&#x27;s customers are requesting it.<p>It&#x27;s all just a thinly-veiled attempt to stifle VOD providers to prop up dying (yet profitable) cable TV businesses. The fact that politicians aren&#x27;t able to or don&#x27;t want to see through this is both unsurprising and disappointing.<p>Adopting net neutrality laws at a state level is an interesting idea that may force Federal regulatino. I mean what&#x27;s worse that one set of Federal rules for a large company? 50 sets of state rules, that&#x27;s what.<p>Even if just CA and NY adopt this, that&#x27;s already a sizable amount of the population.
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ruffrey超过 7 年前
The real solution to the problem, as I see it, is not even Net Neutrality (though I strongly support Net Neutrality).<p>The solution is to break the monopolistic stranglehold on last-mile internet service.<p>If it were possible to have competition in the last-mile ISP space, then consumers could vote with their wallets and choose those ISPs who supported Net Neutrality.<p>An alternate partial solution would be to force companies breaking net neutrality to report it on their customer&#x27;s bill.
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uptown超过 7 年前
See also HB 2282 in Washington State:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;app.leg.wa.gov&#x2F;billsummary?BillNumber=2282&amp;Year=2017" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;app.leg.wa.gov&#x2F;billsummary?BillNumber=2282&amp;Year=2017</a><p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov&#x2F;biennium&#x2F;2017-18&#x2F;Pdf&#x2F;Bills&#x2F;House%20Bills&#x2F;2282.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov&#x2F;biennium&#x2F;2017-18&#x2F;Pdf&#x2F;Bills&#x2F;Hou...</a>
dsr_超过 7 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;tech-policy&#x2F;2017&#x2F;11&#x2F;fcc-will-also-order-states-to-scrap-plans-for-their-own-net-neutrality-laws&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;tech-policy&#x2F;2017&#x2F;11&#x2F;fcc-will-also-or...</a><p>(tl;dr: fcc-will-also-order-states-to-scrap-plans-for-their-own-net-neutrality-laws&#x2F; )
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warent超过 7 年前
I was under the impression that the majority voice in this argument (i.e. mortal American citizens) was completely against this. Yet it still ended up that they dismantled net neutrality.<p>If it&#x27;s true that the majority wanted to keep net neutrality, then how come the majority was ignored? Maybe I&#x27;m missing something but this seems like a good example that our voice in the US doesn&#x27;t matter beyond local things like whether or not your town will allocate money towards a new public swimming pool.<p>Go vote on whether or not you get a nice new swimming pool. The monopolists are the only ones that have a voice in grown-up topics. That&#x27;s what I&#x27;m gathering from this. Accurate or alarmist nonsense?
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toomim超过 7 年前
This is the way to do it. Let the individual states experiment and decide.<p>If net neutrality really IS good&#x2F;bad, you&#x27;ll notice it when you cross state borders and go online.
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noncoml超过 7 年前
Forget about Net-Neutrality, it&#x27;s gone, it&#x27;s a dead horse. Let&#x27;s see some competition.<p>I cannot believe that I live in the middle of the infamous Silicon Valley and only have a single choice when it comes to fast broadband, and that one goes down every other month for 3-8 hours.
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AndyMcConachie超过 7 年前
The inter-state commerce clause allows Federal Law to preempt state law in this case. Congress has imbued the FCC with the power to regulate(see Chevron v EPA) exactly this. States have no reserved power to regulate the behavior of telecoms.
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doggydogs94超过 7 年前
I suppose CA could set net neutrality regulations for web users in CA connecting to web services in CA. I guess you could implement this if CA got their own internet country code; I think .ca is already taken though.
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kej超过 7 年前
The same FCC that got rid of the net neutrality rules has the ability to make a rule that preempts any state level neutrality rules.
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UncleEntity超过 7 年前
Haven&#x27;t read TFA but I&#x27;m going to say the internet most definitely falls under &#x27;interstate commerce&#x27; so California isn&#x27;t able to regulate it.
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Steeeve超过 7 年前
Too little, too late.
sova超过 7 年前
Ever heard of the Supremacy Clause?
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exabrial超过 7 年前
I&#x27;m all for the people of California to do this!<p>If you&#x27;ve seen my previous posts, you&#x27;ll know I&#x27;m anti Title II, because I think it&#x27;s a terrible way to achieve the goal. I think state laws, relative to local context, are absolutely the way to go.
danjoc超过 7 年前
The current NN repeal is working out exactly the way Pai said it would. As he cited, the problem is lack of competition. The solution is competition. All the discussion happening today is about how to start an ISP to prevent cable monopolies abusing their position.<p>The repeal is working <i>exactly</i> the way Pai said it would. It is encouraging new ISP entrants. Startup ISPs are the answer. NN supporters still don&#x27;t realize they&#x27;ve been on the wrong side the entire time.
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