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Grit is a muscle, train it

95 点作者 eriktrautman超过 7 年前

19 条评论

DoreenMichele超过 7 年前
Years ago, I saw an interview with someone who was or had been in Special Forces in the military. He talked about how hard training was and that he got through training by telling himself he was just going to stay until lunch. After lunch, he would mentally commit to the next hour or two or to making it to dinner.<p>This completely changed my concept of such people and became a cornerstone for getting me through a lot of challenges in the last roughly decade.<p>People who do hard things aren&#x27;t simply awesome at everything or blessed to come from the right family, have the right education etc. Some of them are getting through hard things by managing their emotions and psychology with some of the same tricks used by political prisoners being subjected to torture and trying to not break.
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tw1010超过 7 年前
He&#x27;s right. But muscles can also break from overuse. Just be careful, ya&#x27;ll.
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randomstudent超过 7 年前
As a counterexample, every time I have valiantly tried to use Grit to face a challenge that&#x27;s uncomfortable and hard for me naturally I have failed miserably. In all occasions, I would have been better just quitting the challenge or doing it in a different way that didn&#x27;t require as much grit.<p>Yes, you can say that I just wasn&#x27;t &quot;gritty&quot; enough, but that&#x27;s the same as saying that everyone who injures themselves in exercise wasn&#x27;t &quot;careful&quot; enough. You&#x27;re redefining &quot;careful&quot; in order for your theory to be right. Sometimes bad outcomes happen even when you do everything you can.<p>My goal here is not only to discourage you from trying hard to achieve your goals (that&#x27;s a goal, of course). The main thing here is to get ready for life to kick you in the face no matter how much grit you have, and sometimes, precisely for having a lot of grit (no, I won&#x27;t go into details).<p>The most important skill isn&#x27;t grit, it&#x27;s the wisdom to decide when applying grit is worth it. And no, I don&#x27;t know how you train this or even if it is trainable. It might be just luck.<p>Instead of relying on grit, stick to what you do best and don&#x27;t try to use grit as a replacement for talent or other qualities. If someone is naturally better than you, in a competition they&#x27;ll just get grittier than their baseline and eclipse you.<p>This is anecdotal but so is the linked article. For any aphorism there is an equally valid and opposite aphorism.
siliconc0w超过 7 年前
Devil&#x27;s advocate - there is also value in embracing laziness and looking for ways to minimize effort. I train a muscle to look for easier, cheaper alternatives.<p>I loathe effort so much that even a banal day to day activity like folding clothes upsets me. I switched to a &#x27;bin&#x27; system that allows me to sort a load of laundry into bins in a few minutes.<p>I&#x27;ve perfected several &#x27;one pan&#x2F;pot&#x27; type recipes. A rare and particularly sophisticated meal might use two pieces of cookware. Oh and ask me about nutrition bars. At least one meal a day is in bar form.<p>Anything non-perishable I might need is shipped from amazon. For perishables, I shop at a store down the street like I&#x27;m robbing a bank. In and out in a few minutes.<p>Effort feels wrong. Like I&#x27;m missing something. I can still do it but my mind is brute forcing the ways to make it easier next time.
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emodendroket超过 7 年前
I&#x27;m completely sick of hearing about &quot;grit&quot; in any context not involving corn (I&#x27;ll give John Wayne a special dispensation). Can we move on to the next pop-psych concept that explains everything?
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volgo超过 7 年前
Not doubting the author, but I&#x27;m curious why people upvote these articles that present some X viewpoint and just back it up with &quot;I did this because of X, therefore X is so and so&quot; without any scientific research<p>Again I&#x27;m not disagreeing with him, but do people enjoy this kind of articles for motivational purpose or than information? Just curious
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fasteo超过 7 年前
Good advice, but keep in mind that willpower might be a limited resource (it is[1], it isn&#x27;t[2]). You do not want to spend it all while training for grit.<p>In my personal experience, willpower is indeed limited. But that&#x27;s n=1. As with everything in life, moderation is key.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.com&#x2F;2012&#x2F;10&#x2F;mf-willpower&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.com&#x2F;2012&#x2F;10&#x2F;mf-willpower&#x2F;</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;digest.bps.org.uk&#x2F;2015&#x2F;06&#x2F;24&#x2F;new-research-challenges-the-idea-that-willpower-is-a-limited-resource&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;digest.bps.org.uk&#x2F;2015&#x2F;06&#x2F;24&#x2F;new-research-challenges...</a>
grendelt超过 7 年前
What’s the difference between “grit” and the traditional understanding of perseverance?<p>Isn’t perseverance carrying on in the face of obstacles or without reinforcement anyway?
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Sharlin超过 7 年前
Interesting. As a non-native speaker I wasn&#x27;t really aware of this meaning of the word &quot;grit&quot;, but it seems very similar to the concept of &quot;sisu&quot; [1] in Finnish, often regarded as an integral part of the national character of Finns and considered very difficult if not impossible to translate exactly. Wikipedia does list &quot;grit&quot; as one of the mental characteristics &quot;sisu&quot; can be thought to be a combination of.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Sisu" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Sisu</a>
crikli超过 7 年前
&quot;Grit&quot; aka mental toughness under duress.<p>I highly recommend looking into a GORUCK Challenge (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.goruck.com&#x2F;the-challenge&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.goruck.com&#x2F;the-challenge&#x2F;</a>) for anyone who wants to develop stronger mental muscle in a few short* hours.<p>It&#x27;s amazing how just a short period of discomfort pares away the bullshit. You learn how to prioritize under duress, work with other people to assess, quantify and leverage strengths, and you figure out that you&#x27;re capable of more than you thought.<p>You wouldn&#x27;t think that a physical challenge translates outside of that scope. But it does, because most physical challenges are really mental challenges featuring a facade of physical discomfort.<p>*They will not feel short.
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sebringj超过 7 年前
I agree. I would also add on a personal note, I&#x27;m not religious by any account, but your goals have to be your religion. You have to have faith that your grit will achieve those goals and pray to the gods of achievement everyday and be grateful you are alive to be on this journey, no matter how hard it is. Its kind of like you have to willingly be insane. I also found it helps if you work out really hard to get through some of those darker days as your small workout achievement boosts your mood and in a way is similar to having pain and then being the master if it by running up that hill, etc. Great article.
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maxxxxx超过 7 年前
For grit to work you also need some success from time to time. You can&#x27;t just grind along without ever getting positive feedback or you&#x27;ll burn out at some point.
nicolashahn超过 7 年前
Good advice but incomplete in my opinion. Discipline(grit) is good, but developing it without a concrete goal is very hard.<p>He uses push ups as an example and states that it&#x27;s not for the physical conditioning, but to train his grit. That&#x27;s his goal. He&#x27;s chosen this thing and has probably thought for a while about its value, and has come to the conclusion that it is worth the tradeoff is the time and pain of the pushups.<p>Goals are personal and the same might not work with everyone. If &#x27;developing grit&#x27; is some wishy washy thing that an article on the internet told you to do, then you might not stick with the pushups. If your goal is to pass a fitness test for becoming a firefighter or something, and that&#x27;s something that you really, really want to do, the pushups become easy as long as you hold your ultimate goal in mind.<p>The most disciplined people in the world got there not because being the most disciplined was their goal, but discipline was necessary for attaining it.
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hartator超过 7 年前
I am reading a book about management “a sense of emergency” by John P. Kotter, and weirdly I think it’s also an excellent book for self development to improve grit and reduce procastination.
mkagenius超过 7 年前
“Once you form a habit, habit starts forming you”
icebraining超过 7 年前
Hypothetically, what if you don&#x27;t have the willpower to do even a small thing every day? How is the process bootstrapped?
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dlwdlw超过 7 年前
Here is IMO a much better framework to think about grit: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ribbonfarm.com&#x2F;2011&#x2F;08&#x2F;19&#x2F;the-calculus-of-grit&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ribbonfarm.com&#x2F;2011&#x2F;08&#x2F;19&#x2F;the-calculus-of-grit&#x2F;</a><p>Some excerpts:<p>&#x27;&#x27;&#x27; Grit has external connotations of extreme toughness, a high apparent threshold for pain, and an ability to keep picking yourself up after getting knocked down. From the outside, grit looks like the bloody-minded exercise of extreme will power. It looks like a super-power.<p>I used to believe this understanding of grit as a superhuman trait. I used to think I didn’t possess it. Yet people seem to think I exhibit it in some departments. Like reading and writing. They are aghast at the amount of reading I do. They wonder how I can keep churning out thousands of words, week after week, year after year, with no guarantee that any particular piece of writing will be well-received.<p>They think I must possess superhuman willpower because they make a very simple projection error: they think it is hard for me because it would be hard for them. Well of course things are going to take superhuman willpower if you go after them with the wrong strengths.<p>...<p>If it isn’t crystal clear, I am advocating the view that if you find that what you are doing is ridiculously hard for you, it is the wrong thing for you to be doing. I maintain that you should not have to work significantly harder or faster to succeed today than you had to 50 years ago. A little harder perhaps. Mainly, you just have to drop external frames of reference and trust your internal navigation on a landscape of your own strengths. It may look like superhuman grit to an outsider, but if it feels like that inside to you, you’re doing something wrong.<p>...<p>Exhortation is pointless. Humans don’t suddenly become super-human just because the environment suddenly seems to demand superhuman behavior for survival. Those who attempt this kill themselves just as surely as those dumb kids who watch a superman movie and jump off buildings hoping to fly.<p>It is the landscape of your own strengths that matters. And you can set your own, completely human pace through it.<p>The only truly new behavior you need is increased introspection. And yes, this will advantage some people over others. To avoid running faster and faster until you die of exhaustion, you need to develop an increasingly refined understanding of this landscape as you progress. You twist and turn as you walk (not run) primarily to find the path of least resistance on the landscape of your strengths.<p>&#x27;&#x27;&#x27;
johnchristopher超过 7 年前
I wish mental problems could be « gritted out » as easily as physical challenges :).
zerostar07超过 7 年前
how can you do crunches in the bed?