At Vice, Cutting-Edge Media and Allegations of Old-School Sexual Harassment

143 点作者 mrjaeger超过 7 年前

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I'd heard rumors about this at Vice. Glad to see it getting some air.Stories like this are important, because I think the traditional view of sexual harassment is that it happens at JP Morgan, or Exxon, or "stodgy" old companies.People don't think that it can happen at their cool, hip workplace where everyone's woke. But, power is power.Incidentally, and totally based off of a gut reaction and not data: I wonder if this is the death knell of "company outings." More and more it feels like people are content to let work be work, and avoiding things like holiday parties and after-work gatherings.I wonder if it's partially because of situations like this: You might be inappropriately propositioned. Or, you might have too much to drink and make an inappropriate advance - I don't even mean anything grossly egregious here necessarily, but a superior making an advance on their subordinate is pretty inappropriate even if the advance itself is tame.

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danso超过 7 年前

Related story from last month: <a href="https://www.thedailybeast.com/unsafe-and-just-plain-dirty-women-accuse-vice-of-toxic-sexual-harassment-culture" rel="nofollow">https://www.thedailybeast.com/unsafe-and-just-plain-dirty-wo...</a>One of the interesting parts to come out of that (and from the OP) is VICE's "non-traditional workplace agreement":> New hires at Vice also sign a “Non-Traditional Workplace Agreement,” an infamous internal document that requires employees with no experience at Vice to agree as a condition of employment to not be generally offended by anything that goes on there.<a href="https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4203989-Non-Traditional-Workplace-Agreement.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4203989-Non-Traditio...</a>

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ucaetano超过 7 年前

Straight from 2004:<a href="https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/av759j/the-vice-v11n5" rel="nofollow">https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/av759j/the-vice-v11n5</a>"The VICE Guide to PartyingHere are some of the types you'll need to invite.TRANSSEXUAL: Pre-op is good, but post–breast implants, pre–gender reassignment is PERFECTION. All transsexuals are slutty, so don't worry about that. This guest is a very high priority and should be catered to accordingly. Put her first in the queue for cocaine and drinks. Tell her how pretty she is. Touch her a lot.GUY WHO WILL FUCK TRANSSEXUAL: He is your #2 guy, your party wingman. If the tranny doesn't feel loved, she will leave. Then you're fucked. If you don't have a tranny chaser in your six-degrees network, I have one word for you: craigslist.com. We posted there for this party ("Guy wanted to fuck tranny in ass") and had 20 respondents within an hour. I picked this particular man because he has the biggest ring through his cockhead that I have ever seen.WANTON DRUNK SLUT: This is a surprisingly tough one to find. Once you get a reliable drunk slut in your life, someone who will shed her clothes and let a room full of people write on her with indelible markers at the drop of a hat, hold onto her like a dinghy in the perfect storm. She is a true party staple and will prove again and again the fact that nudity at a party is as contagious as the bird flu. Just as the night begins, give her (and only her) a handful of shrooms."Yep, that's Vice. The current progressive, cutting-edge image is just makeup.

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provost超过 7 年前

> In 2003 Vice reached a $25,000 settlement with the freelance writer Jessica Hopper. The deal involved defamation claims tied to an interview she did with the rapper Murs that was published in the February 2003 issue of the magazine, according to a copy of the agreement viewed by The Times. During the interview, Murs asked Ms. Hopper if he could have sex with her. She said no and included that answer in her article.> But before the article was published, the magazine changed her response to yes and printed it under the headline, “I Got Laid But Murs Didn’t.”> Mortified, Ms. Hopper hired lawyers. The two sides struck a settlement that, in addition to a payout, required Vice to print a retraction and a formal apology.Wow. I feel so poorly for Ms. Hopper. They defamed her and shamed her, yet a $25,000 settlement likely only paid for her lawyers. Disgusting -- they should feel ashamed.

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craftyguy超过 7 年前

> One woman said she was riding a Ferris wheel at Coney Island after a company event when a co-worker suddenly took her hand and put it on his crotch.I have absolutely no idea why someone would think this is OK to do. Generally I can try to piece together how someone might rationalize their behavior but the best I can come up with on this one is: alcohol.

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xir78超过 7 年前

I recall an episode about Lady Boys in Thailand, where at the end Shane signs off by essentially says he’s going to have sex with a male prostitute.That seemed more “wrong crowd” than just “edgy” to me.

pwaai超过 7 年前

The co-founder of Vice started a alt-right white boy club[1], which was pretty shocking to be honest. It did make me stop watching Vice & Vice News altogether.[1]: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_McInnes" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_McInnes</a>

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1337biz超过 7 年前

I am baffled by the outrage. Isn't Vice known to be an edgy, drugy and boundary bending outlet? Are we seriously pretending to be suprised that drugged up late teens are doing sick stuff. Or what am I missing here?

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bogomipz超过 7 年前

Yesterday's "The Vice Guide to Right Now" podcast was about sexual harassment in the restaurant industry[1]Hypocrites.[1] <a href="https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/59w3q3/sexual-harassment-in-the-food-industry" rel="nofollow">https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/59w3q3/sexual-harassment-...</a>

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ringaroundthetx超过 7 年前

I dont think these expose’s and #metoo campaigns are going to have the effect that they are going for. These things are merely exposing consequences (or lack thereof)I think it is more likely that gender exclusive clubs will become more in vogue again, where they simply bus in the people willing to be objectifiedUnfortunately There is nothing about this that is curbing behavior or desires, it is only showing the folly of gender diversity in the workplace. The additional liability incurredIm not endorsing these observations, I and almost everyone will publicly say this is wrong, upvote how heinous people in power can be, but what I perceive of peoples desires are unchanged.