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High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

319 点作者 mhasbini超过 7 年前

52 条评论

ohthehugemanate超过 7 年前
Apple went from building fantastically reliable software on beautiful, powerful devices, to... Well, this. Even die hard apple fans don&#x27;t use their built in apps for calendar, music, mail, or really anything, because the design is so bloated. Their hardware performance lags the rest of the market at their price point, and skirt the lines of programmed obsolescence. And now apparently their major OS updates go out without quality control for things like a blank root password, or random crashed and freezes. I tried to use OSX&#x27;s logs last week - they were spammed to death with warnings and errors from OS components and bundled software. Half the OS services break or emit warnings, because the date component considers December 2017 as an illegal month.<p>I know everyone called it after Jobs stepped out of the leadership chair, but is that really what&#x27;s responsible for the decline? Can an apple insider comment here?
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makecheck超过 7 年前
I blame strongly Apple’s inability to make developer-focused tools <i>easy</i> and <i>unbreakable</i>.<p>For instance:<p>- I <i>do not file bugs anymore</i>. Their system is absurdly complex, requiring a lot of information up front, and is then 100% opaque. Bugs stay marked New and <i>untouched</i> for <i>months</i> or longer, only to be closed with Duplicate or some other lame status (with absolutely no way to search or read the apparently-similar bug reports to understand the issue and resolution). If their goal was to ensure no real participation in the process of helping their products become better, they’ve succeeded.<p>- Xcode 9.x routinely has failing background processes, even in response to explicit actions, and not just for obscure features. For instance, an <i>ordinary build</i> seems to spawn background tasks that <i>frequently display old errors as new errors</i>, only to mysteriously produce a “Successful” build <i>while still showing all those older errors</i>; I have to Clean and Build to be absolutely sure!<p>- Xcode 9.x failures are somehow better than Xcode 8.x failures where Literally. One. Second. Can. Pass. In. Between. Every. Character. You. Type. Then, SourceKit can enter an <i>unending failure loop</i>, to the point where Xcode <i>must be restarted</i> lest you have to click OK on errors every second. And you would think I could simply move on to Xcode 9.x but I <i>can’t stop using Xcode 8.x</i> due to other developer-unfriendly decisions Apple makes, such as ending support for SDKs or changing compilers in backward-incompatible ways, where using the Xcode 8.x suite (faults and all) is unavoidable.<p>Apple is showing signs that a split into sub-companies would be useful (kind of like Claris&#x2F;FileMaker Inc.). There’s no <i>particular</i> reason why things like bundled apps couldn’t just become preferred 3rd-party downloads from the App Store, where spin-off companies make iThis&#x2F;iThat or even things like Photos.<p>If that happened, Apple would be forced to actually communicate with several entities on a regular basis and improve their external-facing tools. You can bet that SpinOff, Inc. would not stand for having major problems with developer tools or SDKs for instance.
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baggachipz超过 7 年前
Despite the daily nag messages, I still haven&#x27;t &quot;upgraded&quot; to High Sierra yet because I&#x27;ve heard nothing but bad things about it from friends and coworkers. What does it bring to the table besides headaches?
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reacharavindh超过 7 年前
Not so long ago, I use to justify to myself that:<p>* Mac is good hardware and software I can count on. Just pay and focus on your real job.<p>* Apple cares about privacy very publicly, so they are probably not selling my data or doing anything stupid with it. Although, there is no way for me to know.<p>* My work is buying the hardware for me. Why bother spending time building one that I need to maintain so much. Get the one that &quot;Just works!&quot;<p>But, recent weeks of blunders and annoyances in my Mac after updating to High Sierra is making me rethink. I&#x27;m going to spend my weekend configuring my Dell XPS with VoidLinux and set it up with open alternatives for most of my use cases.<p>True, I will miss some niceties like Retina Fisplay and crisp font rendering, but my self-made solution can be comfortably close to it. Although I will sorely miss the &quot;Copy on the phone, Paste on Mac&quot; functionality.<p>I will setup Tarsnap or something with crown and forget about backups except for restoration testing every year.<p>I will use Darktable on photo library that is synced to phone via NextCloud. Instead of Apple Photos.<p>Recent Firefox with Adblocker and Ghostery as a web browser.<p>Chrome for browsing Facebook and Amazon.<p>KVM instead of Virtualbox for VM needs. Docker for container needs.<p>Sublime Text for programming editor.<p>Clementine as Music player<p>VLC or MPlayer for media<p>Will figure out the rest. And put all the install&#x2F;configure commands on a Ansible playbook and commit it to Github. So that next OS install is completely automated. If y&#x27;all have any tips for including in my setup this weekend, I&#x27;ll appreciate it very much!
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jarym超过 7 年前
Had the same issue - the Console App logs have taken a SERIOUS step back from earlier versions; lots of garbage that should clearly be DEBUG or TRACE level (I guess remnants of what developers have been working on).<p>Anyway, after days of experimentation, in my case, I <i>think</i> it was WebGL on Chrome. If I disabled GPU graphics acceleration in Chrome then the freezing would never happen. I downloaded the NVidia drivers for my 2012 MBP and so far WebGL is working fine on Chrome without freezes. To be clear, the whole computer froze - couldn&#x27;t even more the mouse pointer!<p>Obviously, given the botched state of High Sierra in general others may be experiencing different causes for their freezing.<p>Deeply unsatisfied at Apple over this, how hard does it have to be to take a perfectly fine OS (pre-High Sierra) and keep it that way?
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apatheticonion超过 7 年前
Makes sense. I&#x27;m going to use this as a venue to bitch about my experience with MacOS. I have been a long time Windows&#x2F;Linux user but have long admired MacOS from a distance as it appeared to be, essentially, a polished Linux distro. Bash along side consistent UX, sign me up.<p>I purchased a MacBook Pro 8 months ago. I walked into the experience loving it. I wanted to love it. I wasn&#x27;t some Windows fanboy who hates on MacOS, it&#x27;s just that after I got using it for a while, I was shocked at how unintuitive it really was. The good things were really great (trackpad gestures, spotlight, it&#x27;s aesthetic) but that bad things were silly bad (full screen apps, no intelihide on the dock, no window tiling, battery, finder, garbage filesystem support, etc)<p>I felt betrayed. (NZD, 2017 13&quot; best touchbar model) I paid 3000 of my hard earned dollars for dated specifications so I could have access to what I expected would be the ultimate user experience on a computer. I ended up selling my MacBook after 6 months because every time I looked at it, I remembered how much I paid and how much the UI frustrated me. High Sierra was the tipping point, I was hoping for an improvement to my experience, instead they gave me a new file system and &quot;ES5 support in Safari&quot; - according to Tim Cook.<p>I&#x27;m keeping up with MacOS and hope they start caring about their MacBook&#x2F;MacOS product(s), because as soon as they do, I&#x27;ll buy one.<p>For the record, Windows and Linux have their own sets of compromises, but I can run them on a Laptop I bought for $800, or a used Desktop I got for $200, being equally as productive.<p>tl;dr - I was happy paying the premium for UX, however I got an incomplete product and I was mad. &#x2F;rant
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sarreph超过 7 年前
For those with Nvidia GPUs, may I suggest (as per previous comments[0]) that you download the Nvidia BETA drivers[1] for your system. (Disclaimer: at your peril — and for your relevant device... This can be hard to figure-out as what your Mac says your GPU is, in my case a 750M GT, is actually classed as a GeForce GTX 680 :&#x27;) -- what I&#x27;ve linked to)<p>Seems to have done a decent job at patching up some of the more serious un-usability that High Sierra caused me and my Mac.<p>Moving to High Sierra was the worst performance-wise update I made to my Mac. I&#x27;m so disappointed with Apple&#x27;s sluggish reaction to these issues, that have been reported in high numbers[2], from months ago...<p>[0] - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=15729265" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=15729265</a><p>[1] - <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nvidia.com&#x2F;download&#x2F;driverResults.aspx&#x2F;127670&#x2F;en-us" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nvidia.com&#x2F;download&#x2F;driverResults.aspx&#x2F;127670&#x2F;en-...</a><p>[2] - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;electron&#x2F;electron&#x2F;issues&#x2F;10736#issuecomment-345049249" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;electron&#x2F;electron&#x2F;issues&#x2F;10736#issuecomme...</a>
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DonHopkins超过 7 年前
Whenever my MBP gets slightly hot (if for example I turn the room heater on, instead of opening a window to let in cold air, or if I dare to have too many tabs open in Chrome), the whole system grinds to a halt and becomes totally useless, while Activity Monitor shows the &quot;kernel_task&quot; pinned at 400% - 700% CPU, with the CPU LOAD graph showing a mostly red mountain of system time being burnt by kernel_task.<p>I think it may be &quot;SpeedStep&quot; shitting all over itself and putting the CPU into a death spiral.<p>I&#x27;ve had several generations of MBP that continuously fail this way, so it&#x27;s not something new to High Sierra.<p>I&#x27;m really disappointed that Apple keeps making each model of MBP thinner and thinner and hotter and hotter, instead of making it thicker with better cooling and ventilation. I don&#x27;t fucking NEED it to be that thin! What I NEED is for it not to fucking freeze all the time.
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LarryMade2超过 7 年前
High Sierra is a mess, I had someone whose computer was un-bootable because of it. I went through many &quot;solutions&quot; only to finally roll it back to a previous OS version via backup (thankfully they used Time Machine regularly), and told them do the current system updates but don&#x27;t update the OS.<p>I&#x27;ve worked through many update issues in OSX over the years, and the fixes were reasonable, but this one is really bad, and sometimes there isn&#x27;t any workable solution than to roll-back.<p>I&#x27;ve noticed the OSX&#x2F;iOS upgrade push is really affecting a lot of people in different ways lately, another has iPad&#x2F;iPod issues because you have to update OS to get a never version of iTunes to talk to upgraded iOS devices that are now locked out of previously compatible versions of iTunes - and with device signing theres no way to roll back the mobile devices iOS... and with Mac App store theres no way to get an update thats not High Sierra anymore so Macs that can do say Yosemite but not HS are S.O.L. (unless you already have the install media) Blegh.
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mberning超过 7 年前
People don&#x27;t seem to remember or appreciate they quality of pre-iCloud versions of osx and ios. I remember buying Snow Leopard in a cardboard box from Microcenter for $20. It had almost no truly new features. Everything was focused on making things work better and faster. And it showed. I would gladly pay $20 or $50 or $100 or whatever Apple wanted to charge for a true bug fix version of osx.
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paulnevada超过 7 年前
High Sierra, after playing with the freeze-ups and slow typing recognition for about a week I think I finally found the problem IMO. When Apple decided to re-format to the APFS file system they had a huge re-format dilemma for folks with only one SSD available to boot with. So Apple decided to go to a running format of the solid state drive included in the High Sierra package. Guess what! It doesn&#x27;t work! Way too much fragmentation to the point of the computer gets confused and lost trying to find needed data or a place to store it and it want&#x27;s to play beach-ball.<p>In the old Apple days we had to defragment drives constantly to keep from experiencing a beach-ball state of rest.<p>Anyway I had to do a bunch of invoicing in Quickbooks this morning. QB writes to the drive constantly to avoid any loss of financial data in a crash or outage. Ever since I installed High Sierra my typing response time slowed to a standstill. I could drink half a cup of coffee before it would finish a sentence or row of numbers.<p>I thought wow, this is just like the old days with my IIx. LOL And than it hit me! Ah, fragmentation! Being as I have 4 drive bays in my 5.1 Mac Pro and I had a CCC cloned copy of all my data with High Sierra on another SSD drive. I re-booted and used Disk Utility to erase and format APFS to my original boot drive. Then I transferred the cloned data back to that drive, re-booted and ran first aid on it.<p>I&#x27;ve had a smile on my face ever since! I used Quickbooks this morning for 4 hours without ONE freeze or typing slowdown. In fact, if I blinked my eye I couldn&#x27;t see the page changes. It&#x27;s now lightning faster than any previous OS X system I&#x27;ve used and I only have a 2 x 2.4 GHz Quad-Core. Not one error or stall in this message or anything I have done all day for that matter so I&#x27;m a happy High Sierra user again..
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teilo超过 7 年前
We are a mac-first company. About 350+ machines. We experienced all of these issues while testing High Sierra. Multiple machines, some upgrades, some clean builds. They seemed to be isolated to touchbar models, because we had no such issues on any of our older models, nor the Macbook Esc.<p>Thankfully, 10.13.2 has fixed all of these issues for me. Before I would get a lock up almost about half the time I tried to awake from sleep. Now I have gone 2 weeks without a reboot.<p>New macOS releases have been plagued with sleep&#x2F;wake issues for years, but this one was worse than normal.
daBewt超过 7 年前
I had this issue a lot _before_ upgrading to High Sierra.<p>In my case I did a clean install of my Mac and then installed High Sierra. The issue then went from happening 3-4 times per day to about 3-4 time per week.<p>I suspect this (at least in my case) having a lot more to with the new Macbook Pro with Touch Bar than macOS.<p>In any case, apple should do better
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pfarnsworth超过 7 年前
Why is Apple software so terrible these days? They have enough money to hire the very best programmers, why are they skimping on the most important part of their company? It&#x27;s really gotten very evident that the quality at Apple is slipping big time, a lot of resters-and-vesters instead of people who love their job. Their debacle a few weeks ago with passwords, etc, and then tripping over themselves two more times in a week is shocking for such a rich company who can afford the very, very best.
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Pica_soO超过 7 年前
There should be a law for this if a company does no longer use&#x2F;maintain a software properly for which a customer paid the customers should have a right to receive the source to effect repairs on their own.
lispm超过 7 年前
I have a Macbook 12&quot; from 2015 with High Sierra. Works fine with the latest version. it took Apple a year to release a stable macOS for the Macbook. Now I have very little problems, but before it was common not to wake up reliably, running external screen had problems, etc.<p>My Quadcore i7 Mac mini is still a mess under High Sierra. I see it freezing very often and especially when the machine gets some load. It&#x27;s basically not usable for anything beyond reading mail and browsing the web. It was freezing once a month under Sierra. Under High Sierra it can freeze several times a day. Last days it was also rebooting on itself, twice.<p>I had filed a bug report, but Apple asked for a full system diagnosis report, which is not something I can give away because it would contain restricted information.
kaffeinecoma超过 7 年前
Adding my own anecdote, there seems to be some kind of problem with high I&#x2F;O loads on High Sierra.<p>One of my projects involves indexing thousands of URLs. During development I use a large (80GB+) local cache of a few million files. Running the cache code (~100 lines of simple Golang) totally brings my iMac (3.8GHz Core i5, 24GB) to its knees. CPU shows as mostly idle &amp; memory pressure is low, yet the machine can&#x27;t redraw windows properly after about 5GB of I&#x2F;O to local SSD.<p>Completely frustrating. I moved the code over to an older (2010!) Mac running Ubuntu and it handles it without breaking a sweat.
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macNchz超过 7 年前
I’ve been having this problem myself on my year-old top end MacBook Pro, it gives me flashbacks to Mac OS 9, which was the last time I had my computer regularly just lock up entirely. Not great.
adpirz超过 7 年前
It’s not just me! My 2014 spec’d out MBP (i7, 16 GB RAM, Nvidia 750) was all of a sudden lagging with just a few chrome tabs open for the first time since I’ve owned it. I thought the issue might have been a Chrome release.<p>This is really disappointing, I wonder if it’s a portent of more slip ups to come.
kitsunesoba超过 7 年前
This definitely seems like a YMMV sort of deal. I’ve been using High Sierra and iOS 11 across several devices and haven’t encountered any issues that are more serious than minor annoyances. 2015 15” MBP, Late 2016 15” MBP, self built Hackintosh tower, iPhone X, iPad Pro 9.7”, iPhone 7+. All are more or less smooth with very occasional hiccups.<p>I also tend to avoid third party apps where possible, particularly the more ungainly ones. Maybe that has something to do with it?
okket超过 7 年前
FWTW, Late 2013 15&quot; MBP: daily use, no problems with High Sierra
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FollowSteph3超过 7 年前
How many people actually program software for the Mac? Not develop on the Mac but program for the Mac? It’s my experience that those who program on the Mac versus FOR the Mac have different opinions on the quality of the OS :(<p>I know from experience that we deal with a ton of Mac specific issues that are annoying and frustrating and are due to either low quality or they just won’t fix cause it will be obsolete soon. So many items.<p>I’m OS agnostic but I will say that in terms of OS specific issues we’ve had to deal with many more Mac spaecifc issues then Windows specific issues. All kinds of random stuff just not working that should be. I can’t speak for Linux distros cause we don’t support Linux directly, but in terms of OS specific issues we’ve had to implement many a workaround to Mac specific OS bugs. Like things just not working. In some cases Apple stated thue had no intentions on fixing it. Not esoteric bugs but big ones that required big workarounds.<p>Anyways I suspect the results would be the same her between people who develop on a Mac vs those that develop FOR the Mac :(
crdb超过 7 年前
There is a wonderful opportunity for Microsoft right now.<p>Many managers have already switched to OSX for personal use and if they can (including at places like IBM) for work as well. The reliability is unbeatable especially as Windows becomes more and more unintuitive, unreliable and bloated.<p>The key factor to this switch was porting Excel, and to a lesser extent the rest of Office, to Mac. Even with the reduced feature set, it means non-technical and semi-technical people can now work from a mac. Excel probably runs in virtually all companies in the world today.<p>If Microsoft were to invest some time in porting Excel and the rest of Office to Linux&#x2F;UNIX, which are today very user friendly to non-technical users (my mother uses Ubuntu on her desktop, for example), they will give people a way to avoid the high pricing and increasing unreliability of Apple. This should boost sales of non-macs which is good for Microsoft&#x27;s competitive position, even if these devices are immediately wiped for a new OS.
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siteshwar超过 7 年前
Reading recent discussions around Apple reminds me of this story[1]. I will not be surprised if marketing people are the ones who are affecting software quality.<p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cs.cmu.edu&#x2F;~chuck&#x2F;jokepg&#x2F;joke_19970213_01.txt" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cs.cmu.edu&#x2F;~chuck&#x2F;jokepg&#x2F;joke_19970213_01.txt</a>
EGreg超过 7 年前
Can we have a conversation about how it can be that Apple, which used to proudly advertise on &quot;It Just Works&quot;, is sitting on billions of dollars in cash AND YET, at the same time, iOS and MacOS experience some major regressions with every new release?<p>I mean, Google has overtaken Apple in UI and UX user satisfaction and usability. Steve Jobs would be rolling around in his grave.<p>Ever since the &quot;skeumorphism&quot; debate, Apple seems to have become a follower. I don&#x27;t want knee-jerk downvotes but an actual discussion about why Apple isn&#x27;t spending at least a billion dollars on a best-of-class program on establishing itself as the leader in<p><pre><code> Stability Usability User Satisfaction Testing &amp; Regressions </code></pre> It&#x27;s clearly abandoned the Mac store, for instance, and twice even forgot to renew its certificate, making apps crash on startup. Crazy!
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sccxy超过 7 年前
For me it is impossible to get updates for High Sierra.<p>App Store is not working and manual install is impossible. It tells my Macbook Air has Fusion drive which is incompatible with latest High Sierra.<p>No Macbook Air has ever got Fusion drive..<p>Waiting for some free time to reinstall macOS.
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willhackett超过 7 年前
I thought it was just me. But to see so many people disappointed with the decline in quality of macOS and accompanying products is somewhat comforting—at least from the potential standpoint that Apple may make some response.<p>I&#x27;ve been a die-hard Apple user since moving from Windows in 2009. I&#x27;m even powered by MobileMe from the days where you paid for your sync. Nothing has changed much since then.<p>I find myself watching things like the Essentials Phone and Google&#x27;s secretive desktop operating system for some escape from the Apple ecosystem. I love the hardware. I love the support. But the symphony of hardware and software working together as one isn&#x27;t as special as it used to be.<p>The desktop apps are inconsistent and distant to their iOS cousins. The experiences in the apps seems hinged on a time long past. Newer &quot;features&quot; in the operating system feel tacked on—not working effectively. I know they don&#x27;t want to merge iOS and macOS—but I feel they have a better grasp on what&#x27;s going on behind iOS than Mac. Perhaps it&#x27;s time to put Mac out of its misery and bring iOS a little bit of Mac—terminal, filesystem and more.
clord超过 7 年前
When this happens to me I SSH into the machine and kill chrome or one of the electron apps. Sometimes it will unfreeze enough to close terminal sessions.
lowbloodsugar超过 7 年前
I have an Amazon &quot;Smart Home Consultant&quot; coming in a few hours to help me wire up my Echos and figure out what else I need to buy to get a seamless Amazon Music experience in my house. Bye-bye iTunes and iCloud. The Airports and Apple TV are already gone, replaced by luma, echo and roku.<p>Next is a linux laptop instead of MBP. Works out about $500 cheaper for similar spec, or same price for much better spec. And they&#x27;re upgradeable, so not having to buy another MBP in two years time means I can save probably another $1500 over four years. Even the ultrathin 13&quot; has one NVMe and one 2.5&quot; bay. I&#x27;ll be getting a 17&quot;, like apple doesn&#x27;t make anymore. Only this one has two NVMe bays and two 2.5&quot; bays. Last straw was my 2011 MBP 17&quot; had video problems (reboots under gpu load) and they refused to fix it. Finally this year it developed the pyjama stripes, and now they recognize it has a problem, but oh dear, its out of warranty since Dec 2016.<p>There are five apple computers in this house. They are the last.
Shivetya超过 7 年前
BTDT, have experienced numerous freezes on my 2013 iMac since my upgrade. At first I suspected the NVidia video drivers as it locked up in a few games I never locked up before in, yet reverting to the Apple drivers had no better result.<p>Interesting is that whatever is in my browers; usually watching streamers or listening to radio; still is active. I just have lost all input. Pulling the USB connections have no effect. Then there are the times it just freezes hard.<p>the annoying part is that since I have bootcamp in all instances after a hard freeze the system wants to boot to that volume instead and even more fun, keyboard use of the option key fails until I let it successfully boot into Windows. As in, the option key fails with either USB or BT keyboard until a successful boot occurs
Friedduck超过 7 年前
I’ve held off on High Sierra until the issues subside which doesn’t seem to be soon.<p>The keyboard is second-rate on my 2017 MBP compared to previous models, and had I known what a nightmare USB-C would be I wouldn’t have bought it—full stop. The touch bar has occasionally been unresponsive, or outright crashes forcing a reboot. (I’ve seen learned how to restart it. A sentence I should never have to type.)<p>The problem is Apple has become so much worse just as the competition has finally started to produce compelling options. They still have the lead (?) but it’s no longer a foregone conclusion that they’ll offer the best OS&#x2F;hardware combination.
karmicthreat超过 7 年前
I get these freezes as well. Even my touch bar is frozen during them.<p>I have not had any issues with APFS, but I usually have 100G or more free.<p>That said I am not going to windows even with the Linux extensions. Those just are not quite there yet.
shurcooL超过 7 年前
FWIW, late 2011 15&quot; MBP here, latest public version of High Sierra, and no serious problems with it. Feels and acts the same as all previous macOS versions before it for me.
hitgeek超过 7 年前
I upgrade an old 2011&#x2F;2012 MacBook Pro to high Sierra so I could download the latest Xcode.<p>there has been a few times since then that the machine will freeze then show a folder with question mark icon.<p>surprisingly it boots up fine after turning it off and on again, but I&#x27;m worried it won&#x27;t last long.<p>its a bummer b&#x2F;c even though the machine is old, I upgraded to 8gb of ram and 500gb ssd and the performance is comprisable to a new MacBook a just got.
jordache超过 7 年前
I truly think this is an issue with the touchbar&#x2F;usbc MBPs, less an issue with HighSierra.<p>My MBP crashed all the time during wake w&#x2F; external monitor. Had weird video playback choppiness that required restart, TouchID profile going away on its own... This all occured before upgrade to high sierra and the issues persist with high sierra.
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nanomoose超过 7 年前
I have a MBP Mid 2014; it has always had a freeze problem. During 2016 probably twice a week. Drove me nuts. I forget the 2015 rate. The second half of this year, approx, has been really good to the point that I&#x27;d forgotten about freezes until a recent &quot;your computer restarted &#x27;cos it had a problem&quot;.
Willamin超过 7 年前
Happy user of a Macbook Pro 13&quot; with Touch Bar chiming in here. No unusual problems to report. I only experience slows&#x2F;freezes when: - I&#x27;m putting the machine under heavy stress - I&#x27;ve filled up all but a few hundred megabytes of disk space - the machine has 1-5% of its battery remaining
hsxd超过 7 年前
This has been happening to me at least once a day ever since I updated. This is my first and last Macbook.
taternuts超过 7 年前
Upgrading for me left me with missing apps and having to fix homebrew and a bunch of other CLI tools and their deps. First time I&#x27;ve ever run into problems upgrading my macos, and will definitely wait a while and look for threads like these before installing the next one.
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alphabettsy超过 7 年前
My only issue is Chrome freezing multiple times per day. That doesn’t take the system down though.
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lowbloodsugar超过 7 年前
This thread is full of people who unknowingly played russian roulette, didn&#x27;t die, and are passing the gun to the next player saying &quot;You shouldn&#x27;t listen to any of these people complaining about the problem. See, <i>I</i> didn&#x27;t die.&quot;
donarb超过 7 年前
The title (which includes the url attribution) of this article is misleading. Before clicking on this, I thought it was an official statement from Apple about this problem. It is not, it is a post on Apple&#x27;s support forum that started back in October.
juanmirocks超过 7 年前
My data point: I use my MBP for its hardware and OS (which I find reliable) but nearly all the software I use is from third parties, most significantly Google, which does a much better opinion in this matter IMO. Only notes and reminders get my attention.
Roberto_ua超过 7 年前
Very often, after opening a lid I have to restart MacBook. I see a black screen with a mouse cursor for a long time (the most I waited was 5 minutes). I assume this is a very common problem. MBP Mid 2014.
pastelsky超过 7 年前
After updating to High Sierra, my screen freezes and then glitches with psychedelic patters for a couple of seconds every time I log in. Not sure if it&#x27;s just me.
hitekker超过 7 年前
Does it feel like macOS has become a cost center to Apple?
rajacombinator超过 7 年前
It’s somewhat of an intractable problem. You have a bunch of khaki wearing executives who have been with the company for 20+ years, whose stock has made them rich enough to not work again. Do they care about building high performance products? Do you care? (Whether you is CEO, board, investors, customers even.) Or is it easier to half ass it and add some useless bells and whistles? Even Steve Jobs, considered to be the ultimate perfectionist, didn’t care about 95%+ of the products his company made.
jaequery超过 7 年前
after i upgraded, i see its sluggish and slower. i have 2013 mbp and upgraded to high sierra last week. it used to be snappy fast before but now even just on chrome i see sometimes it gets sluggish and choppy. i am frustrated i upgraded. anyone in the same boat as me?
treyfitty超过 7 年前
It’s not just software. It’s hardware and service. Here’s my anecdote. I bought a 2015 MacBook Pro with AppleCare second hand. The AppleCare doesn’t expire until September 2018. So, I brought my laptop in because my webcam wasn’t working all of a sudden. This is where the proverbial shit hit the fan:<p>1. Required a full display replacement, and the Apple technician dropped my laptop and left scuffs on the bottom. This was noted, and they replaced the bottom without even bringing it up to me (but it took an extra day to wait for the part to arrive). Upon picking it up, I noticed there was a dent, an obvious dent, on the corner panel that they didn’t fix. The apple store was so crowded, and the tech was unwilling to reason with me (cosmetic damage isn’t covered, this is the way it was brought in... ya da ya da)so I left.<p>2. Emailed Tim Cook. No response (obviously). Escalated (maybe Cook deferred my case to them and they left a note on my account?) to customer relations and they said to bring it in for repair.<p>3. Brought it in for repair, and when I got it back, the headphone jack and thunderbolt ports weren’t working because the side panel was shifted to the point where the peripherals couldn’t be plugged in properly, unless I really jammed it in there (and even then it didn’t work).<p>4. Emailed Tim Cook again, bringing this to their attention that their 5th Ave. flagship store is really cutting corners on repairs. At this point, I just wanted a full blown replacement... call me entitled, but I wanted to exercise my insurance, which was purchased just in case shit broke. Well, shit broke and they mess up every repair. So, am I wrong to want a replacement? No response again, but customer relations said “we spoke to the manager of the store, they said to come back in.” Went back in, and the manager says “sorry, we can’t replace it. But we can fix it again.” I was like, ok... you couldn’t tell me that over the phone? I had to subject myself to the madness of the 5th Ave location for no reason?<p>5. The deemed the issue as a logic board issue. Replaced the logic board. When I came to pick it up, the Genius says “... idk why they replaced the logic board... your left ports are misaligned and damaged- it has nothing to do with the logic board.”<p>My left ports still don’t work, but I don’t want to deal with Apple anymore.<p>Granted, they shipped me a pair of AirPods as a compromise since my headphone jacks don’t work... but this was the worst experience I’ve had with any warranty&#x2F;insurance process. Including car accident, and home insurance. Health insurance is still the absolute worst, but that’s a tough bar to pass- point is, Apples quality everywhere has deteriorated to the point where they’re almost trying to cut corners on purpose, rather than excelling at hardware + service, like they used to.
racl101超过 7 年前
Yikes. I have zero incentive to update to this OS.
akm143超过 7 年前
fucking high sera stucks while formatting and reinstalling - Fuck you apple
_Simon超过 7 年前
The sheer volume of these type of post is beginning to smell a lot like astroturfing. The faux outrage is comical.<p>No issues with any Apple device with the lastest software for myself or anyone I know. I can only assume that these are either edge cases or unmitigated hyperbole.
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