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Meltdown, aka “Dear Intel, you suck”

222 点作者 fcambus超过 7 年前

10 条评论

jmull超过 7 年前
Is it the right time to call out the fundamental wrongness of Intel(&#x2F;Apple&#x2F;Microsoft&#x2F;etc) outrage narratives?<p>I mean I get it: large corporations (1) don&#x27;t necessarily have my interests at heart; (2) are not able to perfectly execute (on extremely large and complicated) products and systems.<p>um. This is as radical as taking a stand that the sun sets in the west.<p>I like HN because of the <i>promise</i> that people think <i>just a little bit</i> before just typing something that strokes their feelz-good neurons. Yet, here we are on the front page with &quot;In tel suxxx!&quot; (and &quot;Apple suxxx! in the htop thread, etc., etc. etc.)<p><i>sigh</i> I guess it&#x27;s inevitable.<p>People just don&#x27;t like paying for intangible things, so the only way to pay for the internet is clickz&#x2F;eyeballz. And OUTRGE! clickz&#x2F;eyeballz are the cheapest and easiest.<p>I know, I know. There was a bug from vendor X that really irked&#x2F;irks you and it feelz good to express your outrage.<p>I just wish there was just some corner of the internet where this wasn&#x27;t the dominant trend and I had hoped it was here on HN. Well, at least reddit has extremely cute dog and kitten videos, and some chuckle-memes.
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DougN7超过 7 年前
I don’t understand the Intel hate. It’s not like their engineers are dumb or lazy. This exploit is very hard to imagine before now. And it’s there because chip makers were trying to wring out more performance. It’s unfortunate if anythig.
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tomkat0789超过 7 年前
Hi I&#x27;m a mostly average Linux user just now learning about these hardware vulnerabilities as I&#x27;m planning on building a new computer. What new processor should I buy that has the best chance of being safe when all this dust clears? I first posted this question on a thread about Intel ME. Have processors always been this tricky security-wise or are these low level exploits we&#x27;re finding a recent phenomena?
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loeg超过 7 年前
&gt; Personally, I do find it....amusing? that public announcements were moved up after the issue was deduced from development discussions and commits to a different open source OS project. Aren&#x27;t we all glad that this was under embargo and strongly believe in the future value of embargoes?<p>This is a bogus criticism. The issue was successfully embargoed for something like six months(!) before being published a week early.
manyoso超过 7 年前
Meanwhile I have seen nothing from QNX or Integrity...
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cleeus超过 7 年前
google cache: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;webcache.googleusercontent.com&#x2F;search?q=cache:jqSuv7U6AjAJ:https:&#x2F;&#x2F;marc.info&#x2F;%3Fl%3Dopenbsd-tech%26m%3D151521435721902%26w%3D2+&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=de&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=de" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;webcache.googleusercontent.com&#x2F;search?q=cache:jqSuv7...</a>
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ksec超过 7 年前
May be time for OpenBSD people ( if they have the resources ) to build a CPU from ground up with RISC-V?
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fny超过 7 年前
Is there not some sort of OS embargo consortium that could be created to resolve this?
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JdeBP超过 7 年前
Duplicate at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16084670" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16084670</a>
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alsadi超过 7 年前
Why you single intel on this, ARM and POWER also affected<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ibm.com&#x2F;blogs&#x2F;psirt&#x2F;potential-impact-processors-power-family&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ibm.com&#x2F;blogs&#x2F;psirt&#x2F;potential-impact-processors-...</a>
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