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Strava heatmap can be used to locate military bases

695 点作者 domoritz超过 7 年前

41 条评论

iser超过 7 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;kevinkiklee&#x2F;status&#x2F;957629856518459392" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;kevinkiklee&#x2F;status&#x2F;957629856518459392</a><p>I just created an overlay of Google Maps and Strava Heatmap of the forward operating base I was at in Afghanistan. The heatmap clearly shows the layout of the base.<p>That base has been in operation for at least 6-8 years, and it is well-developed. The up-to-date satellite imagery of the area is not available on Google Maps for a good reason, and Strava just released it.<p>I imagine that this heatmap has been thoroughly scraped already.<p>* I was deployed to Afghanistan from 2011-2012.<p>edit: initially mis-typed &#x27;2011-2102&#x27; =D<p>edit2: A well-established military base, even in a combat zone, has access to wifi and cellphone network. We are constantly training physically, and we like to keep track of ourselves. We were early adopters of fitness trackers, and I used a couple of them myself also.
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mixologic超过 7 年前
Burning Man looks pretty cool: able to see year over year changes to the perimeter map: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;labs.strava.com&#x2F;heatmap&#x2F;#14.33&#x2F;-119.21108&#x2F;40.78291&#x2F;hot&#x2F;all" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;labs.strava.com&#x2F;heatmap&#x2F;#14.33&#x2F;-119.21108&#x2F;40.78291&#x2F;h...</a>
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natch超过 7 年前
In some cases where the data is sparse, you can find where individual people live, because the trails sometimes lead back to a starting point. Like this person who runs around the park regularly. Of course you could also just follow them IRL if you were there, so I&#x27;m not sure this is a big deal.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;labs.strava.com&#x2F;heatmap&#x2F;#14.20&#x2F;100.20693&#x2F;40.99133&#x2F;hot&#x2F;all" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;labs.strava.com&#x2F;heatmap&#x2F;#14.20&#x2F;100.20693&#x2F;40.99133&#x2F;ho...</a>
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azernik超过 7 年前
I&#x27;ve heard about similar issues in a somewhat older context; it took some training work to get 18-21-year-old Israeli draft soldiers to stop creating Facebook groups that reflected their unit structure, or at least to obfuscate the names. And there&#x27;s been a lot of interesting work done by e.g. bellingcat.com to identify the exact Russian Army units and soldiers operating in Ukraine based on social media pictures <i>taken out of theater</i>.<p>OSINT is a very big field in military intelligence; with the amount of information everyone pumps out about themselves, some leakage of militarily sensitive information is bound to happen. As an organization defending against this type of espionage, you just have to try to minimize the leakage.
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RandomCSGeek超过 7 年前
Just started, and already found a patrol route of Pakistan army, although it was quite obvious one, going parallel to a border river. Hope they don&#x27;t take this down, it&#x27;s going to entertain me for many days to come.<p>On a more serious note though, this is an good example of how important it is to control our own data. It only makes me take even more efforts to secure my data and to try to make less of it available to others.<p>We really need to convert Internet to what it was meant to be, a &quot;decentralised system&quot;
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chatmasta超过 7 年前
It’s unbelievable that any military allows its soldiers to deploy carrying consumer technology equipped with GPS tracking.
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ithinkso超过 7 年前
Everest Base Camp is clearly visible - together with full south col route and a lot of teleports to the summit<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;labs.strava.com&#x2F;heatmap&#x2F;#14.32&#x2F;86.87956&#x2F;27.98295&#x2F;hot&#x2F;all" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;labs.strava.com&#x2F;heatmap&#x2F;#14.32&#x2F;86.87956&#x2F;27.98295&#x2F;hot...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.pl&#x2F;maps&#x2F;@27.9786991,86.8796431,8552m&#x2F;data=!3m1!1e3" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.pl&#x2F;maps&#x2F;@27.9786991,86.8796431,8552m&#x2F;data...</a>
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kebman超过 7 年前
I found several border crossings between Russia, Finland and Norway that doesn&#x27;t seem entirely legal. ;)
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brohoolio超过 7 年前
The most interesting thing I stumbled across so far is Detroit, where people don&#x27;t run in huge swaths of the neighborhoods. I&#x27;m familiar with the city so I expected dead zones, but nothing like this.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;labs.strava.com&#x2F;heatmap&#x2F;#9.47&#x2F;-83.46871&#x2F;42.45553&#x2F;hot&#x2F;run" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;labs.strava.com&#x2F;heatmap&#x2F;#9.47&#x2F;-83.46871&#x2F;42.45553&#x2F;hot...</a>
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throaj19s9a超过 7 年前
You can find out certain routes Pine Gap(NSA spy base) employees take. You can even pinpoint which buildings in their spy base have higher security clearances. You can even see them patroling and exploring their land, and someone randomly running in a circle.
natch超过 7 年前
At Apple Park (AC 2), the spaceship footprint is still invisible as of the date of this data. Next year it should be clearly visible. (Sorry, off topic with respect to the &quot;military base&quot; in title, just having fun browsing the data).<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;labs.strava.com&#x2F;heatmap&#x2F;#16.00&#x2F;-122.01101&#x2F;37.33445&#x2F;hot&#x2F;all" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;labs.strava.com&#x2F;heatmap&#x2F;#16.00&#x2F;-122.01101&#x2F;37.33445&#x2F;h...</a>
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natch超过 7 年前
Taos Ski Area:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;labs.strava.com&#x2F;heatmap&#x2F;#14.28&#x2F;-105.45449&#x2F;36.58046&#x2F;hot&#x2F;all" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;labs.strava.com&#x2F;heatmap&#x2F;#14.28&#x2F;-105.45449&#x2F;36.58046&#x2F;h...</a><p>Heavy straight lines are lifts.
hex12648430超过 7 年前
Some other fun (but not so secret) things to look at: research stations in Antarctica, tourism in North Korea (as well as some officials traveling it seems; some tracks cross the DMZ), your own garden if you have one. There&#x27;s even a track at the Area 51.
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ziggyd超过 7 年前
Secret underwater base off the coast of Japan? <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;labs.strava.com&#x2F;heatmap&#x2F;#11.26&#x2F;142.44901&#x2F;38.34858&#x2F;hot&#x2F;all" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;labs.strava.com&#x2F;heatmap&#x2F;#11.26&#x2F;142.44901&#x2F;38.34858&#x2F;ho...</a>
orliesaurus超过 7 年前
How did no one working at Strava think about the implications of releasing this data? Zero scrutiny? I am sure there are some very interesting locations on there... reading through the twitter thread it would seem so
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cdevs超过 7 年前
It would be scary if someone found a flaw in their API or data that exposed who went where from where everyday. It may not be stored that way but people who work at secure locations aren&#x27;t allowed to bring in cell phones or workout watches but they still bring them to the parking lot showing who works where. If a flaw like this is discovered it would obviously be bad.
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shiado超过 7 年前
This reminds me of the selfie soldier story from a few years ago.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=2zssIFN2mso" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=2zssIFN2mso</a><p>Just how much useful military information can soldiers haemorrhage from their cellphones? Imagine somebody being convicted of war crimes in an international tribunal because some recruit forgot to turn off their automatic geo-locating Candy Crush notifications. This is quite the brave new world we are entering.
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adamtj超过 7 年前
Websites are like salespeople and the police: they can and will use your data against you.<p>The first time I was told about Strava, I immediately dismissed it as useless. (After all, what service could they possibly provide when I&#x27;m unwilling to tell them precisely where I go to work out?) I almost gave a quizzical look to my conversation partner, but that would have given him more insight into my thoughts than I cared to share, so I surpressed the expression.
starpilot超过 7 年前
Are any of these locations actually secret?
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pella超过 7 年前
for finding other places:<p>see OpenStreetMap key:military:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wiki.openstreetmap.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Key:military" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wiki.openstreetmap.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Key:military</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;taginfo.openstreetmap.org&#x2F;keys&#x2F;military#values" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;taginfo.openstreetmap.org&#x2F;keys&#x2F;military#values</a>
arca_vorago超过 7 年前
Yet people think I&#x27;m paranoid for not wanting whatever the latest health tracking gadget is. I would love to have an FOSS fitbit equivalent that doesn&#x27;t share my information with anyone but me, preferably a manual download or a manual bluetooth switch (so it can be off when out and about).<p>It&#x27;s like these companies valuations aren&#x27;t off the product, but more off how much data they are getting off consumers. I bet they are selling this to advertisers.
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mf2hd超过 7 年前
&quot;What&#x27;s the big deal? It&#x27;s just metadata.&quot;
YeGoblynQueenne超过 7 年前
I guess that answers that age-old question in Juvenal: &quot;Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?&quot;, typically translated as &quot;who will watch the watchers?&quot;.
sathackr超过 7 年前
Just about any satellite photo provider can be used to locate military bases also.<p>The heatmap is neat but I don&#x27;t see why it&#x27;s specifically bad for military bases.
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lfcipriani超过 7 年前
Strava allow you to configure privacy zones and range around them. I believe&#x2F;hope this map doesn&#x27;t include them.
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sAbakumoff超过 7 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;labs.strava.com&#x2F;heatmap&#x2F;#13.25&#x2F;-119.22139&#x2F;40.78444&#x2F;blue&#x2F;ride" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;labs.strava.com&#x2F;heatmap&#x2F;#13.25&#x2F;-119.22139&#x2F;40.78444&#x2F;b...</a> does anyone know what&#x27;s THIS?
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tree_of_item超过 7 年前
I guess I&#x27;m slow, why are these pictures obviously of military bases? What&#x27;s going on here?
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StringyBob超过 7 年前
I wonder if the raw data can show any paths&#x2F;areas missing from openstreetmap - would be interesting to align the datasets
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christophilus超过 7 年前
I&#x27;m surprised Svalbard is so lit up[0]. I wouldn&#x27;t expect too many folks to be running around out there.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;labs.strava.com&#x2F;heatmap&#x2F;#5.00&#x2F;15.91558&#x2F;77.77306&#x2F;hot&#x2F;all" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;labs.strava.com&#x2F;heatmap&#x2F;#5.00&#x2F;15.91558&#x2F;77.77306&#x2F;hot&#x2F;...</a>
fapjacks超过 7 年前
I have knowledge of a handful of tiny uhh &quot;State Department&quot; facilities that rely on their obscurity for security (a fairly common practice that works in the military for the most part, since fog of war on the ground is a very real thing). Those facilities are visible even from the global view with max zoom.
rwhitman超过 7 年前
The most fascinating spots are located near the equator, in the middle of the ocean, or the desert of North Africa.<p>There are many seemingly &quot;uninhabited&quot; places in these remote equatorial areas that light up with clear tracks or circles, in areas that are obscured by clouds, blurred or look like brown dirt.
sflicht超过 7 年前
surprisingly nonzero adoption of fitness trackers in Pyongyang
SeoxyS超过 7 年前
Wow, I found quite a few very obvious ones in Syria. Are these locations supposed to be entirely secret?
maelito超过 7 年前
People don&#x27;t run in the Père Lachaise cimetery in Paris, interesting !
billfruit超过 7 年前
Perhaps it can work both ways, revealingly insurgent activity as well.
emilfihlman超过 7 年前
Anyone know how to download (a portion) of the dataset?
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JohnStudio超过 7 年前
.. and you.
aluhut超过 7 年前
I wish there would be some easy to do service where you can set up a &quot;strava like&quot; service on your webspace.<p>I know people who use Strava or similar and are somehow aware of their privacy but &quot;it&#x27;s so easy and it works&quot;....
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tviling超过 7 年前
No activities in Area 51
drtillberg超过 7 年前
Is there an explanation somewhere of how Strava got this fitness data and why they published it?
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MrBuddyCasino超过 7 年前
I don‘t get why people loose their shit about something that every LEO spy satellite can see since 30 years. Its just a plain old Twitter outrage.
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