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Paul Graham on trends for the future

184 点作者 wyday超过 14 年前

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hasenj超过 14 年前
Linux may never be a factor on the desktop, but I think Ubuntu has a good chance.<p>Wait. Isn't Ubuntu just a Linux distro? Well, that depends on how you look at it.<p>Is FreeBSD a factor on the desktop? OS X is based on FreeBSD, but no one thinks of FreeBSD as "a competitor to windows", or "a user friendly OS".<p>Of course, Ubuntu to Linux is <i>not really</i> like OS X is to FreeBSD. Ubuntu didn't invent a new desktop, it's based on Debian and it uses GNOME (or Xfce or KDE). But there's still a point to make here.<p>While the open source community as a whole might fail at designing a great desktop experience, this limitation doesn't necessarily apply to Ubuntu. The design efforts there are lead by Canonical, and it's not horribly fragmented. It has so far produced some pretty decent results. See <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter" rel="nofollow">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter</a> and <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD" rel="nofollow">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD</a> as examples.<p>The desktop as a whole is not quite there yet, but it does stand a good chance, and it's already making a lot of strides.
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patio11超过 14 年前
I took the liberty of taking notes. Apologies in advance if my impressions did not capture what PG was trying to say -- I'm summarizing, not stenographing.<p>1) Innovation<p>We've still got it, including making things that are not just ways to waste time on the Internet. Evidence: sci-fi writers dramatically underestimate progress in our industry.<p>2) Biotech<p>Sexy like cleantech, but doesn't require government subsidies to make money. Also has competitive moat, because biotech is hard. (Don't worry, software still worthwhile, too).<p>3) Efficient markets<p>Free flow of information creates efficient markets where not possible before. Many of our startups do this, such as AirBnB, an efficient market in lodging. YC = "mass production techniques, applied to VC"<p>4) Measurement<p>"You make what you measure." Put a paper graph on the wall plotting your favorite metric. You'll optimize for it, celebrate improvements, and shoot yourself in the foot if you picked the wrong metric. Metrics show social customs are obsolete (like, e.g., display ads).<p>5) The United States<p>PG was born in England, is not "wild, jingoistic patriot", but still thinks reports of US's impending obsolescence are greatly exaggerated. The only thing that kills empires is when people can't make money by building stuff. Three ways this can happen:<p><pre><code> a) Bandits steal the money. (NYC) b) Your government steals the money. ("The England that I escaped from.") c) Other countries steal the money. (The Netherlands.) </code></pre> Leading candidate for toppling US is China. PG seems skeptical.<p>6) Silicon Valley<p>Budget crisis in California is two sets of idiots playing chicken. You don't have to start in Valley, but it really, really helps.<p>7) Small companies<p>World is "higher resolution": stuff gets done but it doesn't require industrial empires anymore. Networked small organizations are more efficient. Economies of scale paper over all the other sins of large corporations, but nimbleness of small companies means little guys win.<p>8) Economic inequality<p>A network of small companies plus money not getting stolen will produce massive economic inequality. (Patrick notes: PG's essay on wealth creation is my favorite of all he has ever written. He has a convincing take on why massive economic inequality is a good thing, and it isn't based on trickle-down economics.) If your business model bets on increasing economic inequality, good for you.<p>9) Moore's Law<p>Computers getting better, but in uneven fashions (e.g. SSD, not "all components improve 2 years"). Programmers are lazy. Companies which enable programmers to be lazy (i.e. not change practices or working code to benefit from uneven improvements) and get automagic speed increases win.<p>10) Things On Screens<p>We spend a lot of time staring at screens. Wider population spending more time staring at screens. PG has a suntan from his monitor.<p>11) Server-based apps<p>(I missed this one.)<p>12) Super good customer service<p>Customers can switch easily, people are talking together more, so have such good customer service like it seems like a mistake. Customers can now participate in design of products in virtually real time.<p>13) Apparently frivolous stuff<p>Our startup founders use Facebook to talk to each other about work, not email. "Facebook has not found its monetization model yet", haha. This sort of adoption shows there is something really at work here. "It is surprisingly hard to do math that has no practical applications."<p>PG skipped Twitter. Can't get a good name on it, but it turns out Twitter is really useful as a "non-deterministic messaging protocol."<p>14) Programming languages<p>There will be a succession of new, popular languages. Use the next hot language. You can be the guy who writes the library for such-and-such. Server-based apps can now be cobbled together from multiple languages. "Super abstract languages, like the ones people successfully write applications in now, were once called 'scripting languages.'"<p>15) OSS<p>I can't name a company which did too much OSS. If no one has gone too far, we're probably not doing OSS enough yet.<p>16) Linux will never be a factor on the desktop<p>Limiting edge of OSS is design. Everyone thinks they are good at design. Most people are not good at design: look at the contents of their houses. What this means for the desktop: buy AAPL stock.<p>17) iPhone<p>iPhone is a big deal, and I'm bummed because Apple are jerks. There are two problems startups have that aren't their own faults: immigration and AppStore approvals. They're like something out of Kafka.<p>(Sidenote: We're not giving our startups too little money: they can all afford iPhones.)<p>Android will be crushed under Steve Jobs' heels, because Apple cares about the iPhone like Google cares about search.<p>iPhone (or something similar) will do for laptops what laptops did to desktop.<p>18) Design<p>Design is why the iPhone wins. 20 years ago, it would have been surprising to say American companies can beat Japanese companies in consumer electronics devices. Core competency moved from manufacturing to design after people got microprocessors to shoot themselves in the foot with. Plus, China commoditized manufacturing expertise.<p>19) Real Time Stuff<p>Web 2.0 doesn't mean anything. Real time does. Google Wave will actually be important, not just somebody's 20% project. It is like Google-branded Etherpad, and Etherpad is useful, so Wave will be a gamechanger. See also Twitter, useful in a way different than Wave. If you make the convex hull around Twitter/Wave, and see a space which is unoccupied, that is a worthwhile opportunity.<p>20) VC<p>VC won't go away because VCs need to give you money. They can make the terms arbitrarily better to put money in your pockets [Patrick notes: can't get 2 and 20 if you can't invest the money]. Great news for you, since [owners] will now have the market leverage. Expect better valuations and board control.<p>21) Founders<p>Founders will more and more have the upper hand. Investors have learned firing the founders is a bad play. More and more founders will be technical founders. Programmers can learn to do business: make something people want, charge them money for it.<p>There should be an O'Reilley book for business. It would be really short. "Make something people want, charge them money for it. Advanced: charge more money."<p>---<p>Trends Not To Bet On<p>1) Credentials granted by institutions<p>Admissions officers are terrible. Look at our applicants: college graduated from (and by implication, admitted to) does not predict success. Not surprising: colleges admissions are impersonal evaluation of 17 year olds based on criteria which can be successfully gamed for money. Credentials are an example of an illiquid market. (Pagerank for people would be nice -- our startup doing it didn't work out.)<p>2) Business school<p>B-school is West Point for industrial capitalism. It trains generals, not footsoldiers. Market now rewards people who can do stuff. The kind of people who would be good teachers own their own businesses, became rich, and now have no reason to teach B-school. Instead, we get folks who cannot do and are forced to teach.<p>3) Government<p>The people on the bridge changes, but the engine room is the same as always. There is an increasing disconnect between public and private sector: government and 1960s PG (Proctor &#38; Gamble, not the other PG) fit each other like gloves, and now government does not match startups/software/etc much. Folks want to work in electronic medical records: they're going to think bureaucracy is terribly slow.<p>4) Copyright<p>"Don't start a music starup unless one of your co-founders is Johnny Cochran." Expect a long, bloody fight that the content industry loses.<p>5) Restricted flow of information<p>Getting more liquid, faster.
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michael_dorfman超过 14 年前
Anyone have a transcript/summary?<p>I'm interested in what PG has to say, but I really can't spare an hour to watch the video.
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MisterWebz超过 14 年前
Looks like he was wrong about Android not being a serious competitor and Google wave being important.
milkshakes超过 14 年前
On copyright: <i>I would not bet on copyright. With copyright holders, its going to be an unbelievable fight that they will ultimately lose but it will be so bloody -- it will be like the civil war. So i have advice for you: Dont start a music startup unless one of your cofounders is Johnnie Cochran.<p>Because seriously, those guys are just unbelievable</i>
anonymouslambda超过 14 年前
Skip ahead to 4:00. The first 4 minutes were dealing with mic problems.
rcavezza超过 14 年前
53:30 "I would not bet on anything that depends on the restriction of information"<p>For some reason, "The Fridge" came to mind when I heard him mention restrictions of information flow. Can someone comment on how The Fridge does or does not fit this description.
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DotSauce超过 14 年前
- Bio Tech - May be big, you can make money in this space.<p>- It's hard to start a software company. You are creating value when you write software. Good place to be.<p>- 'Efficient Markets' emerging as information flows around. (AirBNB)<p>- Side note: YC is applying mass production techniques to venture funding.<p>- Measurement - Google Ads are popular because returns can be measured. Inventing a new way to measure more stuff is a good idea.<p>- Thoughts on the U.S.: As long as you have peace and people can make money and be entrepreneurs - then society will be prosperous. If bandits, government, invaders steal the money from people who make it then society could collapse.<p>- Let the good times roll in Silicon Valley. California is still rich. you can start a co. anywhere but it helps to be here.<p>- Higher resolution world, stuff gets done. Networks of little organizations that make things happen are more efficient. As products have more and more of a technical component, it becomes less of a good idea to become a big company.<p>- Economic inequality<p>- Moore's Law working, but differently. Moving towards multi-core. There is a gap to be spanned in helping to build software on advanced systems.<p>- Want to deliver something? Think about what screen they are sitting in front of. (TV, iPad, Phone)<p>- Server based apps will continue to have a long run. Will become more complicated. Software and data will by default live on servers.<p>- Good customer service will be more important as it's easier for customers to switch. They can also research and find out if you have good service. Customers now involved in designing your product. You learn alot from talking to customers.<p>- Apparently frivolous stuff often turns out very useful. (Facebook, Math, Twitter) - Bummed he missed out on his Twitter name.<p>- Popular programming languages will emerge. Adopt the hottest languages. You should write server based apps in lots of languages. Don't look down on "scripting languages" which are more abstract/powerful.<p>- Open source is big.<p>- Linux will never be a factor on desktop. (Paul cowers) The world has done design for you. Linux will be on servers for sure. Buy Apple stock. hackers are a leading indicator of what ppl will be using in the future. (Audience was 40% - 50% Macs)<p>- Everybody wants iPhones. Good for browsing the web. Problem for hackers because Apple are jerks. Android can't compete with iPhone. Apple cares about the iPhone the way Google cares about search.<p>- Design is something to bet on. China has made manufacturing a commodity. Design is software winning over hardware.<p>- Real-time is not bogus in the way "Web 2.0" was. Something definite going on, it's the computing equivalent from the change in going from dial-up to cable internet. Protocols may go real-time.<p>- Google Wave is going to be important. (Whoops)<p>- Venture funding is not going to go away because VCs need you. They may not have the upper hand they've had in the past. Will give people money on better terms.<p>- Founders will more and more have the upper hand. Investors are learning it does not work to fire founders. Really matters who the founders are. Technical founders more and more important. Programmers can learn to do business.<p>- It's a lot easier for hackers to learn business than business men to hack.<p><a href="http://www.markfulton.com/2010/08/25/paul-graham-on-the-future-of-software-and-startups/" rel="nofollow">http://www.markfulton.com/2010/08/25/paul-graham-on-the-futu...</a>
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Estragon超过 14 年前
I disagree that the US is a good bet. It wasn't the high taxes which killed Britain's productivity. It was the huge debt which necessitated the high taxes.
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hasenj超过 14 年前
Android is not good enough? Really?<p>My coworker has an HTC Legend, and it seems better than the iPhone in every way; including design.<p>Have you heard about HTC Evo?
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pwpwp超过 14 年前
I took some rough notes here:<p><a href="http://pwpwp.blogspot.com/2010/08/paul-graham-on-trends-for-future.html" rel="nofollow">http://pwpwp.blogspot.com/2010/08/paul-graham-on-trends-for-...</a>
hasenj超过 14 年前
Copyright ..<p>I wouldn't bet on copyright either, but isn't that at odds with selling software?<p>It doesn't apply to web apps, but it sure applies to other kinds of apps, like mobile device apps (which YC occasionally funds). On the iPhone it's not a big problem because the device is so severely restricted. But what about the Android platform? I hear copying is easier over there.<p>Fundamentally, the only way to make money from software is to restrict something against non-paying users. Traditionally, companies restrict using the software. With web apps, the software is not what you sell, but rather you sell the service (the user doesn't even have a copy of the software).<p>Open Source is also at odds with that, because the whole idea of Free Software is to not impose any artificial restrictions on the usage of software.<p>The only companies I've heard of that go too far with Open Source are Red Hat and Canonical.<p>What most people nowadays tend to do is "open core". They open source certain libraries and infrastructure, but not the whole thing. That's not necessarily a bad thing, and it might actually be the balance that's needed between open source and (traditional) commercial software.
robg超过 14 年前
Which YC company was supposed to be the PageRank for People?
chris_j超过 14 年前
Two things that seem somewhat contradictory are that on the one hand, pg would bet on increasingly efficient markets and would not bet on anything that restricts the flow of information. On the other hand, he thinks that the iPhone is so awesome that it will take over the world and that the App Store approval process is something that we are stuck with.
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johanhil超过 14 年前
I'm really liking the efficient market trend. What will be next?<p>Is there a market for letting individuals deliver packages instead of FedEx/DHL?<p>Perhaps with the private wind mills/solar cells that are becoming more common, something that helps the owner sell electricity to their neighbors.
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durbin超过 14 年前
I was hanging on every word and then he said, "I believe Wave is going to be very important"
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drlisp超过 14 年前
Google Wave is a big deal...what a visionary...LOL