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Were There Really Arrow Storms?

74 点作者 IntronExon超过 7 年前

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nrki超过 7 年前
I recomment reading Bernard Cornwell&#x27;s book Agincourt.<p>It has some very interesting (and gruesome) reconstructions of battles with English longbowmen - from the point-of-view of the longbowmen.<p>In the actual battle of Agincourt [1], ~5,000 archers and ~1,000 men-at-arms took on ~20-30,000 French infantry.<p>As the ~5,000 archers could fire ~12 arrows a minute, with 72-100 arrows each, the French would have had 360,000-500,000 arrows hit their lines during the battle - 10 to 20 for each Frenchman.<p>The article talks about the impossibility of shooting 10-12 arrows-per-minute, however it doesn&#x27;t talk about how the English trained from childhood to fire a longbow - in fact, it was written into law for hundreds of years.<p>1. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Battle_of_Agincourt" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Battle_of_Agincourt</a>
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Fifer82超过 7 年前
Not to take away from modern war, but Medieval times must have been really bad. I can&#x27;t imagine being on the front line knowing I am probably about to be stabbed or hideously maimed at best. The march into a cloud of arrows which you can see coming in volleys would be absolutely miserable.<p>I find it really hard to picture myself in that type of conflict.<p>Yet, despite being no more clement, and that death is a constant, the idea of my D-Day craft opening up, and being raked with invisible machine gun fire is almost clinical in nature.<p>Airstrikes and missles are so far removed from medieval battles, it would be fair to say that you can sit in a destroyer with AC and comfortably press a button while thinking what happens at the end of your book tonight before bed. I can imagine that, but not the guilt one may feel if any.<p>What a difference distance makes.
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Someone超过 7 年前
I don’t think they did, but if they used Time on Target (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Time_On_Target" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Time_On_Target</a>), they could have created a localized peak of incoming arrows per second that is significantly higher than the rate of fire.<p>I would guess that also would make it harder for defenders to dodge incoming arrows. Rationale: if you can see it, one incoming arrow is relatively easy to avoid, ten per square meter almost impossible. Also, the arrows would come in from different directions (the ones fired earliest almost vertically, the last ones fired almost horizontally), making it harder to see all arrows heading for you.
ksaxena超过 7 年前
TLDR: Yes
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staunch超过 7 年前
&gt; <i>The real problem is when we move from 1000 archers with light bows, to 1000 archers with heavy medieval bows...</i><p>And ancient battles often had more than 1000 archers. Thermopylae probably had 5,000 professional archers. That&#x27;s 25,000+ arrows in the sky, focused on one area. There&#x27;s no question that it would block out the sun to some degree, but how much?
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protomyth超过 7 年前
a video on Agincourt <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=F5cIzwaxKcM" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=F5cIzwaxKcM</a> (ok, the first 2 minutes are a little hocky but he also does some great Roman videos) and one one archery for reference <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=FDQaJKpBWgY" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=FDQaJKpBWgY</a> <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=DSq5GX0G3Co" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=DSq5GX0G3Co</a>
snambi超过 7 年前
The arrow storm is probably a myth created by war writers.