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Peter Thiel Parts Ways with Silicon Valley

136 点作者 alva大约 7 年前

20 条评论

factsaresacred大约 7 年前
A readable non-paywall version: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;N4qEP" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;N4qEP</a>
SirensOfTitan大约 7 年前
Tim Ferris on the same issue:<p>&gt; Silicon Valley also has an insidious infection that is spreading -- a peculiar form of McCarthyism (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;McCarthyism" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;McCarthyism</a>) masquerading as liberal open-mindedness. I&#x27;m as socially liberal as you get, and I find it nauseating how many topics or dissenting opinions are simply out-of-bounds in Silicon Valley. These days, people with real jobs (unlike me) are risking their careers to even challenge collective delusions in SF. Isn&#x27;t this supposed to be where people change the world by challenging the consensus reality? By seeing the hidden realities behind the facades? That&#x27;s the whole reason I traveled west and started over in the Bay Area. Now, more and more, I feel like it&#x27;s a Russian nesting doll of facades -- Washington DC with fewer neck ties, where people openly lie to one another out of fear of losing their jobs or being publicly crucified. It&#x27;s weird, unsettling, and, frankly, really dangerous. There&#x27;s way too much power here for politeness to be sustainable. If no one feels they can say &quot;Hey, I know it makes everyone uncomfortable, but I think there&#x27;s a leak in the fuel rods in this nuclear submarine...&quot; we&#x27;re headed for big trouble.<p>Source: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;IAmA&#x2F;comments&#x2F;7erct8&#x2F;i_am_tim_ferriss_host_of_the_tim_ferriss_show_and&#x2F;dq6zrh1&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;IAmA&#x2F;comments&#x2F;7erct8&#x2F;i_am_tim_ferri...</a><p>I&#x27;ve witnessed this first hand, and alongside the congestion and housing problems that no one wants to handle, it was a big reason I decided to leave the Bay Area for good.
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spking大约 7 年前
I grew up in Alameda and have lived in LA for 10 years now. Oakland&#x2F;Berkeley&#x2F;SF notwithstanding, LA isn&#x27;t that significantly different when it comes to politics and I&#x27;m sure Mr. Thiel is aware of that.
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bkohlmann大约 7 年前
I spearheaded the Lincoln Initiative study referenced in the article.<p>If you&#x27;re interested, you can see 5 key findings here:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;joinlincoln.org&#x2F;viewpoint-diversity" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;joinlincoln.org&#x2F;viewpoint-diversity</a><p>We have a comprehensive report coming out in a month.
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RickJWagner大约 7 年前
Society goes back and forth on what is considered &#x27;right&#x27; and &#x27;wrong&#x27;. You only need to look at older movies to see how things change.<p>What was once considered neutral or even progressive is now considered racist&#x2F;sexist&#x2F;etc. Watch &#x27;Dumbo&#x27;, &#x27;Animal House&#x27;, &#x27;Blazing Saddles&#x27;, etc. None of those would be filmed today. Yet we still have not cured many of the ills that plagued society in both times.<p>The left must relent and let conservative voices be heard. In the long run, it will be destructive to the left if they do not.
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cm2187大约 7 年前
Two thoughts:<p>1. I have the feeling that this is not limited to the silicon valley. It feels very similar in my industry (banking) and I assume some other industries too.<p>2. I think there is more than one force at hand. A more militant liberalism may be one force but I can think of another major one: social medias. Basically an army of &quot;anonymous&quot; twitter &#x2F; facebook &#x2F; other accounts (they may not be individually anonymous but together they are), waiting for any pretext to shout their indignation, always looking for new ways to be offended. I don&#x27;t think the population and opinions behind is a new evolution, but it just has a very powerful way to express itself now, by inundating social medias with angry comments, memes, effectively running virtual mob-lynchings.<p>This is combined with a traditional bias in medias to give some legitimacy to &quot;the street&quot;, i.e. if enough people are demonstrating, vociferating slogans, they are deemed to somehow be representative of the opinion of the population when in reality they only represent the opinion of this limited group. Combine that bias with social medias, and medias tend to report these outrages as a mainstream opinion, even if it is only that of a vocal minority, adding their own weight to the lynching. I don&#x27;t think we should give much credit to these social media storms, no more than an angry mob should be a party to a civilized debate.
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ythn大约 7 年前
Sometimes I wish California would simply purge all republicans so it can become the bluest of blue state. That way, we can have a large scale experiment to see what kind of &quot;utopia&quot; will be cooked up under 100% liberal control.
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sjg007大约 7 年前
This is good for LA and the broader community. I don&#x27;t believe that Thiel will be getting out of tech.. but maybe media tech is his next big thing. I think there is a big play in the conservative social network news area. These filter bubbles become their own verticals as Murdoch knows well. He can also have a big impact shaping the LA tech industry. This is also good for UCLA and USC.<p>The Liberal &#x2F; Conservative culture wars need to stop and we need to have debate. There is too much passive aggressive behavior on both sides. If debates have to be moderated than so be it but the moderators need to do their jobs and people need to respect them.
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ErikVandeWater大约 7 年前
Recommend using Read Across the Aisle if you want to get past the paywall: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chrome.google.com&#x2F;webstore&#x2F;detail&#x2F;read-across-the-aisle&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chrome.google.com&#x2F;webstore&#x2F;detail&#x2F;read-across-the-ai...</a>
balthasar大约 7 年前
good riddance.
alva大约 7 年前
Non-paywall <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pastebin.com&#x2F;krfQwUVt" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pastebin.com&#x2F;krfQwUVt</a>
baby大约 7 年前
I can&#x27;t read the article on the website.
PaulRobinson大约 7 年前
It&#x27;s a loss to the sector to lose somebody who thinks deeply (Zero to One is a good book), cares and wants to make the World better through technology and investment in firms dedicated to the same.<p>It&#x27;s not a loss to the sector to lose somebody who thinks the path to doing that is intolerance, dominance, lack of accountability and an insistence on some Ayn Rand-ian gibberish philosophy of the World.<p>He was intolerant of Gawker. He dominated them by suing them to the hilt via the Hogan case. He is anti-regulation which in this case is a synonym for anti-accountability. Most of his political and economic philosophy seems to be the same gauche pastiche of SV&#x27;s obsession with Rand. So, yeah, good riddance.<p>If software is eating the World, it&#x27;s important the people building and operating it are as diverse as possible, otherwise there is a risk it unconsciously or consciously becomes biased in its actions and consequences towards a single social group at the expense of others.<p>Of course a one-party political philosophy is a problem in the long term, but so is Trump&#x27;s stance on equality - one Thiel endorses - and for now at least it&#x27;s important the voices of diversity and accountability win out for the long run.<p>TL;DR: Bye! Don&#x27;t let the door hit you on the ass on the way out! Come back when you&#x27;ve got a little more mature and empathic towards others if you want!
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guhcampos大约 7 年前
Good news. I may now be available for relocation to SF.
supercanuck大约 7 年前
Who cares what people like Tim Ferris and Peter Thiel think?<p>These guys get their ideas published, and linked to and shared left, right and center, so is it possible, that maybe their political ideas suck?<p>Lack of exposure is not the issue, so what is? Maybe their ideas are just.. stay with me here... bad?
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Molaxx大约 7 年前
I don&#x27;t get why should people be tolerant of bullies?
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jstewartmobile大约 7 年前
Was that young-people&#x27;s blood thing ever verified, or is vanity fair getting sued next?
drukenemo大约 7 年前
Well, is it really that surprising that the Silicon Valley is not this thought freedom paradise, being under such strong government control in so many levels? Call me a conspiracy theorist if you want.<p>Silicon Valley companies are very much subjected to the NSA and other governmental agencies. Have you seen all the projects funded by DARPA? <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.alphr.com&#x2F;features&#x2F;373546&#x2F;10-brilliant-darpa-inventions" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.alphr.com&#x2F;features&#x2F;373546&#x2F;10-brilliant-darpa-inve...</a>
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JoeNr76大约 7 年前
So basically Thiel is crying and running away because he now gets a little taste of what is means to be a minority?<p>Ha!
virmundi大约 7 年前
So torn about this being posted. I get his relationship to the tech scene. I get how it makes sense. At the same time, the comments are going to quickly devolve onto the very sniping he&#x27;s leave. Probably more so today given the Florida shooting.<p>With all due respect to @alva, can we let this post wither on the vine? Not today. Not after yesterday.
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