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Show HN: Mux Video, a simple API to powerful video streaming

124 点作者 jon_dahl超过 7 年前

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jon_dahl超过 7 年前
Hi there - Jon from Mux here. We&#x27;ve been working hard on this product for the last 6 months and are excited to open it up.<p>Try it out and we&#x27;d love feedback. Free to start.<p>As background, here are a few blog posts about what we&#x27;re doing and why.<p>Video is too hard - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mux.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;video-is-too-hard&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mux.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;video-is-too-hard&#x2F;</a> An API to Video: Why Abstraction Matters - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mux.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;an-api-to-video-why-abstraction-matters&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mux.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;an-api-to-video-why-abstraction-matters...</a>
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altano超过 7 年前
I&#x27;m building a web app that needs video streaming but ultimately serves to provide high-quality image extraction from the videos. I&#x27;ve procrastinated solving the video delivery part and so your service intrigues me. While we have your team on the line, I have some questions :):<p>- Is this a crazy use of your service?<p>- If I request the full-size thumbnail will it be a lossless image from the original video?<p>- Your front-page says &quot;With Mux Video request a single thumbnail with a simple request or an entire storyboard to use in your player to scrub preview images.&quot; but the docs don&#x27;t mention anything about storyboards. Is it not done yet? Or is the implication here that I can just make several separate requests to the thumbnail API to build a storyboard scrubber?<p>- One of your pages says &quot;Note that there is a default limit of 30 thumbnails per asset. If you need more, contact Mux.&quot; but the thumbnail API doc doesn&#x27;t mention this limit. Is that actually a limit?<p>- The thumbnail API doc says the timecode param is a float. Does this mean that if I calculate the timecode based on the framerate I can get high-precision, frame-by-frame stepping in my video player? Any chance you&#x27;ll offer a version of the thumbnail API that takes the frame instead to make frame-stepping easier to build?<p>- Can I send you a hard-drive full of videos to ingest into your system?<p>- Is a signed playback_policy the only way to secure the video from public viewing, and if so, when will this be implemented (doc currently says &quot;signed: (coming soon) ...&quot;)<p>- Your pricing seems extremely reasonable but I&#x27;ll be looking to cut corners at least initially. If I require fewer output formats (e.g. I don&#x27;t need to support mobile devices, only desktop browsers), can I get a cheaper storage rate? I&#x27;ll ultimately have high storage needs (starting with 31,860 minutes of video and then eventually getting closer to 100-200K) but low streaming demand.
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nathan_f77超过 7 年前
This looks great! But my question is... what&#x27;s the story behind the three-letter domain name? If you bought it, was that for 6-7 figures, and what made you decide to invest that much money in the brand?
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clintavo超过 7 年前
My company is very interested in moving into this space (building a video community and charging for paid videos not hosting &amp; processing like Mux).<p>We might be very interested in Mux, however, here is my question and please forgive my ignorance: isn&#x27;t this pretty much what you can do with Vimeo via their api?
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fiatjaf超过 7 年前
Seems like an amazing service and very much needed by everybody that is not YouTube, because indeed video is too hard.<p>Also very cheap.<p>Video Stored: $0.007 per minute per month Video Streamed: $0.0013 per minute streamed
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f00_超过 7 年前
I think the streaming business is really interesting, I assume the reason Twitch (Amazon) is so successful is that they own their own infrastructure. Youtube is a competitor for the same reason.<p>Using Akamai&#x2F;other CDNs is just crazy expensive, wonder what smashcast (formerly azubu and hitbox), Mixer (microsoft), AfreecaTV, and I assume there are some large chinese streaming sites use<p>Is this being used right now by Vimeo and Livestream?<p>I kind of get the use case, I wonder what the cost is like with traditional CDNs.
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eliblock大约 7 年前
This looks like a great alternative to Wistia for online course sites&#x2F;platforms like Teachable. I believe many developer built and focused subscription video sites like gorails.com for example use Wistia because it makes video easier, just like mux, even if they have no use for the marketing focused gui tools.<p>Wistia is much better than other OVPs for startup projects but they charge 100&#x2F;month if you want more than 3 videos which meant paying for while my project was still in development. Amazon like pricing would have been a major relief.<p>The pricing is far better as well. For HD video at 3GB per hour thats .026&#x2F;GB compared to .085&#x2F;GB for low volume on cloudfront, although hard to compare without knowing how much streaming will be full HD for a given video service.
zutronics大约 7 年前
Great to see you guys doing so well. As a BCOV&#x27;er, we really miss you guys!
simlevesque超过 7 年前
Can it mix livefeeds ? The first page really does not say much and I wonder if it&#x27;s because all it does is streaming a feed, like many other players do in this space.
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mt3ck超过 7 年前
Great looking service, excited to check it out further. The company I work for builds lots of self service video portals for clients and we use Azure Media Services for ingestion, transcoding, storage and streaming.<p>Care to elaborate on how this related to Azure Media Services?<p>Thanks!
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wiradikusuma大约 7 年前
I&#x27;m totally clueless about video streaming (other than being end user), but isn&#x27;t video streaming a solved problem with RTP&#x2F;RTSP ages ago? With products like Icecast, Helix, Darwin Streaming Server, etc?
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freecodyx超过 7 年前
interesting, also looking at the team behind, the product must be good,
cicloid大约 7 年前
This may be a dumb question, but would you describe the product as an alternative to something like Wistia? How does it compare to it?
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simplify超过 7 年前
Does mux support temporary videos? e.g. a user-uploaded video that is only available to watch for a few hours?
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lyonlim超过 7 年前
Nice! For companies streaming internal only videos, how do you satisfy their infosec requirements?
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udia超过 7 年前
Do you have support for 360 videos? (Streaming from a Ricoh Theta S for instance)
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tcd超过 7 年前
Having had experience in streaming to many thousands of users myself I think what you&#x27;re doing here is certainly interesting - having taken a look at your service it seems likely you&#x27;re using nginx and possibly RTMP module? At least that&#x27;s what I&#x27;ve used for HLS streaming in the past (which works really well). It&#x27;s a shame you only support HLS - which famously chrome doesn&#x27;t support on desktop, so this doesn&#x27;t really solve the whole problem with multiple codecs and maximising cross-browser support, which relies on MSE at the moment to get HLS to work.<p>I also noticed in the m3u8 file there are multiple versions of your file depending on quality - it&#x27;d be nice to expose this via the player so I can select the quality I want to view it at - if I am bandwidth limited 480p may just be sufficient! Also with 4k and even 8k becoming ever popular, how do you plan on dealing with this?<p>I&#x27;m also intrigued about video storage - will you store videos forever? How will you handle storing multiple qualities? Is there server redundancy? I noticed your video is streaming via mux.com for the m3u8 and fastly CDN for the TS fragments themselves - In theory there&#x27;s nothing stopping anyone using this as a rather nice transcoding service - POST a video, and download the m3u8 file to gather the .TS fragments and join them together for a nicely transcoded video, you should also allow people to download them and host it themselves, it&#x27;s not like you can stop that anyway.<p>Will be intriguing to see how this develops, it&#x27;s a nice idea, but you&#x27;re soon going to figure out _why_ video is hard - making this was for sure the &quot;easier&quot; part, keeping it growing&#x2F;sustainable is where you are going to struggle once you are dealing with multiple PB of data storage and streaming, it&#x27;s the same reason Youtube isn&#x27;t profitable.<p>Relying on a CDN like fastly is of course possibly cost efficient, but I worry if they decide to kick you off what your plan is, there&#x27;s absolutely no way in hell you could _ever_ serve the video fragments yourself so whilst you&#x27;re solved (possibly) one problem, you haven&#x27;t really invented anything revolutionary.<p>I am also interested how you&#x27;re going to stop people hotlinking the videos themselves - this is something I tried to prevent _really_ _really_ hard - but with m3u8 it&#x27;s simply not possible (well, it is kind of if you use a query string with an expiration token, but that has its own problems).<p>As I said, I could just link the CDN m3u8, for example, downloading:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;stream.mux.com&#x2F;SdLAIpK2YUpIGOgVosm8Hyv6F7t01RadXYZWFuAd8YEh8m2gLrF8XZ2UzSKPWvy00iWOl00OlqxPSE&#x2F;rendition.m3u8" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;stream.mux.com&#x2F;SdLAIpK2YUpIGOgVosm8Hyv6F7t01RadXYZWF...</a><p>tells me all the .ts files fastly is using - why bother with YOU and not just fastly themselves since THEY are the ones hosting your video.
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akoumjian超过 7 年前
What video codecs do you support as inputs?
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stirner超过 7 年前
FFmpegaaS?
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