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Adolescents’ rich and nuanced relationship with risky behaviour

119 点作者 wizzard0大约 7 年前

9 条评论

ergothus大约 7 年前
When I was a pre-teen, my mother once told me &quot;I never want to hear about you...&quot;. I expected to hear a sweeping restriction and my brain was already primed to file the next tidbit with other adult &quot;advice&quot; - material that had no supporting context in my experience (largely because my experiences were so few, though I didn&#x27;t know that then).<p>Instead she finished with &quot;...committing any crime you can&#x27;t retire on&quot;. It was a game-changer for me. This advice...had context. It wasn&#x27;t a absolute &quot;no&quot;, nor did it rely solely on experiences I didn&#x27;t have. It extended on experiences I _did_ have into a broader area.<p>Throughout most of my teenage years I avoided all the worst situations that peer pressure was steering me towards, not because I suddenly properly calculated the risks - I could no more visualize the impact on my life that any kind of conviction would have than I could before - but because I was better weighing the _gains_. Instead of &quot;doing this will prevent me from losing ranking in my social hierarchy&quot; it was &quot;doing this will not gain me material improvement&quot;. Instead of &quot;if I fail I will get in trouble&quot; it was &quot;I will be disappointing because I tried, regardless of success&quot;.<p>Eventually, of course, I built my own ethics structure about why crime&#x2F;rudeness&#x2F;unnecessary risk-taking were undesirable, but this one statement gave me time to do so that I might not have had.<p>I highly recommend it to all parents.
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njarboe大约 7 年前
Being able to engage and succeed in high risk endeavors was much more useful in the past than today. Getting pregnant and giving birth was a high risk&#x2F;reward proposition, much less so today. For men there were other avenues to engage high risk for high reward activities.<p>Being in the hunting party for your tribe and being the one to go in close with a spear to make the killing thrust on a large animal. A bit closer to today: a poor young man with no prospects goes off on a two-three year whaling voyage. If he makes it back he would have enough experience to sign up from another two-three year voyage and get a decent share. If he returned from that one he would have enough capital to set himself up with a home and family.<p>These days taking risk in the physical realm is highly discouraged and there is almost no highly rewarding outcomes for taking physical risk in wealthier countries. A crew hand on a crabbing boat can make good money, with low skills for high risk, but that is so strange we televise them on TV for entertainment. And even that type of work is going away as people decided it is too high risk and introduce individual fishing quotas instead of short open fishing seasons. Many more people do high risk activities unrelated to any productive endeavor (mountaineering, BASE jumping, wingsuit flying, etc). Maybe human space travel with open up high risk&#x2F;high reward opportunities for people again.
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artur_makly大约 7 年前
As a parent of a budding 5yr old.. I am starting to think about this upcoming phase in terms of where to raise him.<p>Currently the two options we are contemplating between is staying in a large major urban city (population ~10M) or moving to Bariloche, Patagonia (population ~150k)<p>I only have my own childhood experiences to work from growing up in NYC..and remembering vividly how I yearned to always play in nature. Going to summer camp was my only joy to escape the intensities of the city.<p>I noticed how pre-teens and teens are here in the big cities, and the kinds of activities they do ( which are quite varied naturally ) vs the kinds that Bariloche will have to offer.<p>On one side the kids from big cities never get bored.. but seem to always grow up very fast..and get into all sorts of night-life very early on.<p>On the other side, if you are teen bored in a small town then getting into trouble there with less stuff around that will kill you is very appealing to a parent.<p>What are your stories??
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stcredzero大约 7 年前
When I was 5, I knew it all. But I was wrong, and I realized how stupid I was at 5 when I was 10. Then, I thought I had it all figured out and I knew I was way smarter than the adults. Except, I realized at 15 how much of a stupid kid I was at 10, but I knew I had everything figured out by then...<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_Sorrows_of_Young_Werther#Cultural_impact" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_Sorrows_of_Young_Werther#C...</a>
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bitL大约 7 年前
Reinforcement Learning: Exploration vs Exploitation with epsilon-decreasing strategy.<p>I am wondering if we are indeed some kind of optimization algorithm ran for somebody else to validate some model they need in their &quot;real&quot; universe.
John_KZ大约 7 年前
I like how they compare a teenager&#x27;s risk of contracting AIDS with a 10 year old, but not with a 30 year old. Nice cherry-picking. All I see is an article trying to explain risk-taking of the youth as a pathology. You might agree with that, but I think it&#x27;s just retarded.
kaycebasques大约 7 年前
There was nothing nuanced about my risky adolescent behavior. I give thanks about once a month for the good fortune of not ending up in a dumpster.
tristanj大约 7 年前
wizzard0, why didn&#x27;t you use the original title, as per HN guidelines? Your title doesn&#x27;t match what I read from the article at all. Environment is only mentioned once and culture isn&#x27;t mentioned at all.
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GuiA大约 7 年前
Original title is <i>”Sex and drugs and self-control: how the teen brain navigates risk”</i>, and seems better than the editorialized HN title.