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Ask HN: How do you apply Boyd's OODA Loop in your life?

23 点作者 aalhour大约 7 年前
How do you apply Boyd's decision making strategy in your life? Do you apply it to one, or more, dimension(s) of your life? How do you make day-to-day decisions? How does your personal security look like?

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bkohlmann大约 7 年前
I first heard of Boyd my senior year of college. We got a new NROTC commanding officer who was one of Boyd&#x27;s acolytes in the 1980s. It changed my life.<p>I discovered that being a good military officer wasnt about following orders. It was about doing what was best for your country. Sometimes the two coincided. Sometimes they didnt.<p>While the OODA loop is usually applied to outpacing an adversary, I applied it in a macro sense to my entire career.<p>I spend the first 8 years of my fighter pilot experience &quot;observing and orienting&quot; myself to the culture I found myself in. I saw good and bad leadership, useful and wasteful strategies.<p>Then, in year 9, I &quot;decided and acted.&quot; Within two years, I had built three organizations that infused DoD with a mindset of innovation.<p>Then I left the military and started over. I went to graduate school and now find myself in consulting. In many ways, I&#x27;m Observing and re-orienting myself. I&#x27;m waiting for the right moment to &quot;decide and act.&quot;<p>I find this mindset infuses nearly every problem I attempt to tackle. And as my pattern recognition increases from frequent observations and orientations, I can decide and act effectively ever more quickly.
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brd大约 7 年前
My degree is in Information Systems with a concentration in Emergency Management. OODA is one of the concepts I took away from school and internalized. I don&#x27;t even think about things in terms of OODA anymore, I automatically assess and dissect the situation at hand or the information presented. Essentially, OODA is a clean framework for critical thinking. It&#x27;s a gut check to ensure you take into account all known factors.<p>Taking OODA literally in your day to day would likely be burdensome but learning to build mental models that allow you to quickly connect dots is a huge asset. I oftentimes opt to not worry about things but I do it consciously, I have a mental model for cost (i.e. risk) and often I put things into the rounding error bucket.<p>A more concrete example is when I&#x27;m networking: Once I hear what a person does I quickly assess what I know about their industry, what I consider to be most niche or cutting edge about that knowledge, and then riff on it to establish that I am a person worth talking to. From there it&#x27;s a constant loop of &quot;what can I do to help this person?&quot;, &quot;how can I leverage this connection to help my business?&quot;, with the occasional &quot;who could I introduce this person to for some sort of mutually beneficial win?&quot;<p>This mental framework for networking allows me to quickly get to meaningful dialogue, get to a point of action, and part ways. At events my contacts tends to be high quality as a result and I can work a room faster which allows me to make more connections.<p>Having a similar frameworks for business decisions, meeting management, sales, etc allows me to manage a lot of areas of my life relatively effortlessly.<p>edit: By effortlessly I mean stress free. I essentially go on auto-pilot.
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agitator大约 7 年前
I had to look up OODA, because I had never heard of it. But I have to say that this has been a personal strategy of mine as long as I can remember. And I think it has been mostly fueled by a constant desire to learn. Just sheer curiosity.<p>I think building up a massive collection of mental models and consciously linking new concepts to previous knowledge where it might be valuable has allowed me to quickly grab ideas from varying sources to solve problems in novel ways. In my opinion, the enabling factor to this strategy is to continually amass a wide range of theories, ideas, strategies, etc and imagine how they might help each other. Like building up a great lego collection. You have all these parts from various sets, so when you want to make something new, you have all these pieces that didn&#x27;t come together originally, but you can create novel solutions with.<p>Having all of these strategies in your arsenal, allows you to more quickly iterate on actions, while continuously learning more about your problem, allowing you to zero in on a best strategy.
Jtsummers大约 7 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;OODA_loop" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;OODA_loop</a><p>For others: Observe, Orient, Decide, Act<p>It&#x27;s a feedback loop, and everyone uses feedback loops. What most people don&#x27;t do is analyze their feedback loops and work to improve them.<p>To take advantage of the concept of OODA you need to shorten the loop. That doesn&#x27;t, strictly, mean acting faster (though it can). What you really want is to make smaller decisions, but make them more frequently. This is the same principle as Lean production and software development.<p>When you decide on an action it should be something that can be immediately carried out. You don&#x27;t decide on an action like: I&#x27;ll take the ball down the field, pass the 2 defenders, and kick it into the top left corner of the goal.<p>You decide to take the ball down the field. As you approach the defenders, you decide how you will pass them or who you will pass the ball to. If you pass them you decide how you will get past the goalkeeper, will you feint and misdirect? Will you use your strong and precise kick to get it in the corner he&#x27;s not? You can&#x27;t know that until you get there so the decision isn&#x27;t made until you arrive there.<p>==============================<p>A distinction has to be made, and many do not, between the goal and the action. You can decide on a goal, but it is not an action itself. Instead you have to start making a series of decisions that lead to that goal. As you make each of those decisions you&#x27;ll have more information, you&#x27;ll see shortcuts or delays that have to be worked around. You decide on a next action, and you execute. And you repeat. This is the OODA loop.<p>==============================<p>I do use this, in sports (soccer and BJJ for me), in driving (particularly the aspect of deliberate action, once I&#x27;ve decided I do not slowly drift into a new lane, I make the action deliberate and clear so no one else is confused). I try to use it at work but I&#x27;m surrounded by Waterfall Worshippers so that&#x27;s a frustration. I do use it with my own work assignments and projects, but I cannot get my organization to make use of it themselves.<p>==============================<p>Edit: To add, like <i>brd</i>, I don&#x27;t actually think in terms of OODA, but it is something I learned a long time ago. My dad was a pilot, and he drilled the concepts (though not the term) into my sister and I just in daily life. I use the concepts of it, but actively only think of it when trying to convey it to others or to integrate it into something beyond my own efforts.
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hx2a大约 7 年前
My understanding of the importance of OODA Loops influenced my approach to data analysis and the tools I build to analyze data. My goal is always to build fast and flexible tools. This allows me to explore the data quickly from many different angles.<p>Boyd&#x27;s key insight isn&#x27;t that we should use OODA loops to make decisions. His genius is that OODA loops should exist, and you should set yourself up to go through the loop as quickly as possible and as many times as possible. This means designing tools or systems that can quickly go through that process. The end result is a more agile and adaptable person or organization.<p>I read this book years ago and it changed my life. Great understanding of the man and his life.<p>The Mind of War: John Boyd and American Security <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Mind-War-John-American-Security&#x2F;dp&#x2F;158834178X&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Mind-War-John-American-Security&#x2F;dp&#x2F;15...</a>