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Sincere Apologies to Paul Graham and the Y Combinator Team (from the Seattle Founder's Co-op)

70 点作者 brfox大约 17 年前

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pg大约 17 年前
This was nice of them. It didn't bother us too much. We were indignant the first time someone copied our application form, but at least these guys admitted it.
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bouncingsoul大约 17 年前
What really bothers me about YC-clones copying the application form is how little it shows the group has thought about the program they're starting.<p>How is it possible that PG nailed down exactly what every seed investor would ever want to know about startup founders seeking funding? Don't these investors have <i>any</i> other questions? Do they actually call people <i>hackers</i> in real life? Is a couple sentences about each founder the maximum all investors are capable of reading?<p>So I'm left wondering if the lack of thought that went into the application carries over into the rest of the program.
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johnrob大约 17 年前
I'd just like to mention that, if YC clones use the same application forms, it does make life easier for the applicants...
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gruseom大约 17 年前
<i>I've written many times [...] so I was caught by surprise</i><p>Reading that, it occurred to me that one of the gotchas here is the statelessness of the web. "Statelessness" isn't quite what I mean. "Contextlessness" might be better. URLs are pointers that jump directly to content that mostly gets consumed atomically, without reference to anything else the author has said/done. Of course if readers want context they have ample opportunity to explore: look at what else is on the site, google the sources and so on. But most won't. (I often do, but I didn't this time.) I wonder if one way to mitigate this is to make content more self-describing.
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brfox大约 17 年前
Well, I'm very glad that he responded so quickly. I was so excited to see something sort of like YC in Seattle but I was worried about the whole very-similar-application thing. I am glad to hear that he just really admires the YC program and is going to fix up the application.
huherto大约 17 年前
Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery.
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kirubakaran大约 17 年前
These guys have suddenly gained a lot of respect in my eyes.
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daniel-cussen大约 17 年前
Makes me think of Techstars...I don't think they're an all-out ripoff. Maybe they just came up with a similar idea before YC started. When they saw YC, they didn't feel they were copycats, but had to adapt to YC's presence. Just a guess.
okeumeni大约 17 年前
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