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Ask HN: How do you find freelance work?

518 点作者 i_am_nobody大约 7 年前
I&#x27;m a software engineer with a full-time job, but I have lots of spare time in my off hours. I&#x27;d like to monetize this time, but finding freelance work has been extremely daunting.<p>I don&#x27;t have a ton of networking skills, so I don&#x27;t have a network I can tap for opportunities. I don&#x27;t really know how to find opportunities otherwise. I have the approvals I need from my full-time job to do this, but it&#x27;s still not something where I want to splash my name all over the place. I also don&#x27;t have a lot of public code, so no big portfolio I can point people to.<p>I&#x27;m not looking for massive pay, just something to occupy my time and some side money. But I want to leverage my skills, not do mechanical turk work.<p>How do you find freelance work?

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goostavos大约 7 年前
&gt; I&#x27;m a software engineer with a full-time job, but I have lots of spare time in my off hours. I&#x27;d like to monetize this time<p>&gt; I&#x27;m not looking for massive pay, just something to occupy my time and some side money.<p>This opinion will change. I 100% guarantee it. A few years ago, I had the exact same reasoning for starting freelancing on the side. I even justified my desire for more paid work as &quot;I&#x27;d be programming on personal things anyway.&quot;<p>So, I took a freelance job. I thought it&#x27;d take about 6mo of weekend work. And I took it at 40% of my normal day-job rate because, it was &quot;friend&quot; work, and, again, &quot;I&#x27;d be programming anyway.&quot;<p>It took two years.<p>That was two years of nights and weekends that did not belong to me. Two years of not being able to devote time to exploring other technologies, learning new things, or just goofing off. I took vacations from my day job to work on my side project because I was so desperate to get it done and have freedom again.<p>The opportunity costs involved are absolutely massive and should be heavily weighed before deciding to take on more work.
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brandontreb大约 7 年前
&quot;I don&#x27;t have a ton of networking skills&quot;<p>Work on this. I have built my consultancy over the past 6 years and it started with me doing freelance and now we do over $1m&#x2F;year in revenue.<p>I attribute the majority of success to networking. Here are some of the things I did early on (and still continue to some extent).<p>1. Local meetups. Great place to show off, hear about leads, etc...<p>2. Find influencers &#x2F; networkers in your area and buy them coffee. Ask tons of questions and end with &quot;Who else do you think I should be talking to?&quot;<p>3. Build stuff - I decided I wanted our team to be known locally for doing crypto dev, so I just started building cool stuff and showing it off at the local dev meetups. Now we have tons of crypt contracts!<p>Whatever you do, come at it with the attitude of wanting to contribute to the community using your gifts&#x2F;skills. The work will follow.<p>Best of luck!
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taprun大约 7 年前
1. Identify a skill that you have, and other people want. The more succinctly you can describe it, the better. Programmer == bad. C# developer == better.<p>2. Identify where people who need that skill spend time (meetups, clubs, slack groups, podcasts, discussion websites, mailing lists, etc).<p>3. Spend time at these places, delivering value, and pitching your wares. If you can get on stage to present, even better. A strong effort in a few places will usually beat a weak effort in many places.<p>4. Tell people you know that you are looking for gigs in your specific niche area.<p>5. Find agencies, others who do this work and let them know you&#x27;re available if they get too much work, or get clients that aren&#x27;t a great fit.<p>6. Most importantly, never be anonymous. This post is an example of a missed opportunity. Who knows, someone might have needed exactly what you&#x27;re able to offer.
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dustingetz大约 7 年前
Rate and job funnel is a function of portfolio strength.<p>1&#x2F; Right now, tonight, go make a portfolio like this one (mine): <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hyperfiddle-consulting.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hyperfiddle-consulting.com&#x2F;</a> (it can be a github markdown gist, host images on imgur or github might even let you copy&#x2F;paste images into markdown now). You do not want to be coding javascript and html here. It needs to iterate fast. And it needs to be done yesterday. Use markdown. Or a google doc.<p>2&#x2F; your portfolio will suck at first, but now that it exists, you <i>feel</i> that it sucks and now there is a driver function making you want to optimize it.<p>3&#x2F; post in the monthly HN freelancer thread, for example: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16495148" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16495148</a> . If you don&#x27;t get gigs, iterate your copy. Say you&#x27;ll do it for a low rate if it gives you open source commits. -&gt; feeds into portfolio<p>4&#x2F; get screenshots of whatever gigs you can (if for example it is a public site, or you can embed stuff into a company github readme for example <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;wingspan&#x2F;wingspan-forms#screenshots-from-large-real-world-project" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;wingspan&#x2F;wingspan-forms#screenshots-from-...</a>) -&gt; feeds into portfolio<p>5&#x2F; company doesn&#x27;t do open source? Offer to open source some library or utility in your free time. I polished wingspan-forms over thanksgiving and christmas break 2013. It&#x27;s a shitty library, nobody uses it. But it feeds into portfolio!<p>6&#x2F; spend at least one weekend a month writing a blog post, tips and trick for whatever javascript framework, or something -&gt; feeds into portfolio<p>7&#x2F; go to a lot of local meetups, at least 1 a month, offer talks, your blog is the starting point for talks, speak at least twice a year -&gt; feeds into portfolio<p>Freelancing is more work up front than wage slaving. But the sky is the limit as to how much you can make. Oh and cut the silly bullcrap about not good at networking blah blah whatever. Read a howto social skills book and show up at meetups.
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scardine大约 7 年前
What works best for me:<p>1) Local meetups and conferences linked to my niche<p>For example: I like to give talks at the local Python meetups. The sponsors tend to be companies that use or have some interest in Python.<p>First advice I give for new freelancers is to specialize. A newbie mistake is to think you may be restricting your options by choosing a door but believe me, behind that door is a hallway with hundreds of doors.<p>2) Stackoverflow careers<p>I respond to &quot;help wanted&quot; ads that allow remote - top quality leads. I&#x27;m not affiliated with stackoverflow (but I 30k+ rep there).<p>3) I blog about what my secret sauces<p>Some times I receive leads from my audience. It is also a good way to keep in touch with people I met at #1 as they are interested in the same subjects.
ArtofEmails大约 7 年前
1. You can try cold emailing the cofounders or department chiefs (CTO, VP of Growth, etc.) of small to mid-size companies with a product that requires dev work.<p>For example, you can try targeting startups who just raised a recent round (= more aggressive growth goals) to pick up some dev&#x2F;engineering slack on a project basis as they scale quickly.<p>There are tons of email finders (hunter.io, voilanorbert.com) that let you enter someone&#x27;s full name and company name to find their email or their company&#x27;s email format.<p>2. Keep your cold email short and frame hiring you as a way to launch and scale experiments, product test features, etc. on a project basis without needing to hire an additional full-time employee .<p>3. Briefly provide 2 examples of how you used your engineering skills to achieve an important business goal or solve a problem for companies you&#x27;ve worked for. Provide 1-2 reference quotes vouching for your work and reliability with links to their Linkedin profiles.<p>4. Offer to work on a project basis and offer to start on a small project with a defined deliverable to show them what you can achieve and how you&#x27;d be like working for you.<p>5. A&#x2F;B test different email approaches. For example, you can also try asking the prospect &quot;What are your top 3 roadblocks that require dev work? I can provide you insights on the most time efficient solutions that take up less people resources&quot; to open the conversation and demonstrate your expertise.<p>6. Ask your current and previous colleagues to leave testimonials on your Linkedin profile to further show you&#x27;re legit and skilled.
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amingilani大约 7 年前
Toptal[1]<p>If you&#x27;re a really good engineer (like I strongly believed I was) and don&#x27;t have the network to find gigs (I live in Pakistan) freelance market places are great ideas on paper but never work out... Until I joined Toptal. They screened me to ensure I was a good developer (high quality supply of developers) and then worked with me to find a client that would be a good fit.<p>Since not everyone can get into the marketplace, it isn&#x27;t a race to the lowest rate and they have the best clients I&#x27;ve ever worked with. At one point an old client emailed asking me to temporarily move to Australia for a project (although I declined)<p>You can work full-time, part-time, or even hourly. It&#x27;s exactly what you&#x27;re looking for!<p>Full disclosure: I later joined Toptal as an editor for their engineering publication [2] so I technically work there but this was all based on my experience as a freelancer there<p>[1]: referral link - topt.al&#x2F;cppg [2]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.toptal.com&#x2F;developers&#x2F;blog#contract-just-respected-software-architects" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.toptal.com&#x2F;developers&#x2F;blog#contract-just-respect...</a>
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ryanjanvier大约 7 年前
Focus on a niche and become the go to person in that field. In my case, I work specifically with non-profit organizations that focus on Native American&#x2F;First Nation issues. By narrowing down my target, I have been able to build a profitable network because I have specialized in that specific niche.<p>Once you have narrowed down your niche, its just a matter of being in the same room as your potential clients. For me, it was attending conferences and networking. But you could also hang out in subreddits, facebook groups, linkedin groups, forums etc if you are an introvert.
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Jacqued大约 7 年前
I understand you said you don&#x27;t have networking skills. I too find networking pretty awkward and tedious. But in my experience the best kind is the kind that does not feel like networking at all.<p>You could go to relevant meetups for your skillset and find people who could use your help there, but this still feels like networking. (it can be awkward to talk to random strangers there)<p>However, there are other kinds of &#x27;meetups&#x27; where it&#x27;s just developers having beers together and discussing our trade or whatever else. If you go to these you&#x27;ll become acquainted and maybe just make friends with some of them. This does not feel like networking at all! Work will naturally come your way after that.<p>Another good source of work is people you have already worked with in the past. Drop them an email or invite them to lunch, it feels pretty natural to just keep in touch (not awkward at all).<p>Anyway, these are just the ways I find work as someone who dislikes networking and recently became a full-time freelance developer.
anon1094大约 7 年前
The truth is is that you don&#x27;t need a network to land freelance gigs. Going to meetups is nice, but you can skip that step.<p>There are remote projects posted all the time on job boards, Slack channels, Discord, Twitter, Facebook Groups, and many other places that aren&#x27;t UpWork.<p>I freelanced for 4 years completely remotely as a front-end developer always finding my clients in this way on various places and reaching out directly with email.<p>It&#x27;s always about consistently reaching out to keep your freelance pipeline full, showing clients you have the technical skills by your showing previous projects in your email cover letter, and that you can be reliable by consistently emailing back quickly.<p>P.S. - I started <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;remoteleads.io&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;remoteleads.io&#x2F;</a> to solve this problem of finding remote work for myself and it turns out many others needed this too and now we&#x27;re growing at a pretty consistent pace.
trav4225大约 7 年前
A bit off-topic, but after reading &quot;software engineer with a full-time job, but I have lots of spare time in my off hours&quot; I find myself contemplating if I&#x27;m alone in wondering how anyone can have free time with a full-time software job. I work full-time in software and it is an all-consuming, life-eating thing. Perhaps (hopefully) I&#x27;m just &quot;doing it wrong&quot; and there is hope out there for a life beyond work... :-)
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sodafountan大约 7 年前
I&#x27;ve used Upwork to varying degrees of success. Here are few of the pros and cons<p>Pros: - It&#x27;s easy to get started, you can just create a profile and get rolling. - Lots of people on the other end of the spectrum, lots of potential clients which can later help with networking.<p>Cons: - Lots of competition, when you&#x27;re just starting you have to work really hard to build a reputable profile.<p>- Upwork has lots of restrictions, so make sure you read the TOS. My first account was deleted because of a TOS violation, don&#x27;t let that happen to you. - 80% of potential clients either aren&#x27;t serious or are clueless, this was the major reason I stopped using the platfrom.<p>I did see some success and I still have clients that contact me for work that I met through Upwork but I just can&#x27;t stand the potential clients anymore and have pivoted to my own startup.
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nbrempel大约 7 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;moonlightwork.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;moonlightwork.com</a>
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aspectmin大约 7 年前
I do AI&#x2F;ML&#x2F;data science freelancing, (usually around cyber security), but also do a lot of Devops &#x2F; systems work.<p>The AI&#x2F;ML stuff is harder to find, save through networking, but for the DevOps&#x2F;cloud&#x2F;sysadmin - I favor weworkremotely.com and workingnomads.com. Their email notifications are pretty handy as well.<p>As someone else mentioned - upwork works, but it’s very very competitive, and I much preferred their Elance platform in the day.
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blisterpeanuts大约 7 年前
Be careful about taking on too many obligations. If you&#x27;re single and your day job is not too demanding, you might make it work, but if you have a family, it can be tough.<p>I recently found some work through one of the freelance websites but had to back out. I&#x27;m a full time software engineer but I am also a full time dad and husband, and between shopping, cooking (I work from home so these tasks tend to fall to me), going to dance and music recitals etc., it was just too much.<p>Regarding networking, if your employer sends you to technical conferences, it&#x27;s a great way to practice. Quite often I strike up a conversation over the breakfast buffet. People are usually quite relaxed and willing to chat while sugaring their coffee and grabbing a pastry. Everyone is in the same boat as yourself; they all want to network, build up useful contacts and potential business partners etc., so they will eagerly tell you about themselves, exchange cards etc. After you have been doing it for a while, networking can become natural and fun, and it&#x27;s very worthwhile to cultivate a friendly and outgoing manner. You never know but it may result in your next job offer. Good luck!
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remyp大约 7 年前
I built something to help HN users network together. I can&#x27;t promise it&#x27;ll bring you work, but it&#x27;ll help you connect with other members of this community without much effort on your part.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;findkismet.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;findkismet.com</a>
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badri大约 7 年前
&gt; I&#x27;m not looking for massive pay, just something to occupy my time and some side money.<p>You have two options. Start working on a side project which you find interesting. Apply any new technologies you&#x27;d wanted to learn. You can either profit from it, or worst case, you learned something new from that. I don&#x27;t want to glorify failure, but the most important thing is to ship it.<p>The less risky option is to build your brand&#x2F;credibility in a niche area, like offering a lot of value in form of blog posts, free e-books etc. This is more organic, takes time, but builds the trust which makes it easier to find clients.<p>Both options involve a combination of various skills other than pure technical competence like marketing and project management.
fastbeef大约 7 年前
Are consultant brokers&#x2F;agent only a thing in the Nordic countries? I started my own consultancy firm last year and just sent my profile to a bunch of brokers. They all got in touch and presented assignments they had. I selected one, went on 1 interview (!!) and bam - six month assignment. The broker gets 10% of what I make. It’s super convenient and saves me a bunch of stress and time hunting assignments so the 10% is really worth it.
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juliend2大约 7 年前
<i></i>Do:<i></i><p>1. Get out of the building. That means finding other people&#x27;s problems.<p>2. Show up. After work, offer to take a coffee with the CEO, or an the exec of a company you know, just to talk about their problems and challenges they are facing, and if applicable, tell them you could help them with that. The simple fact of showing up often in a place will give the impression to people that you are available for some work.<p>3. Know your value in the market. Unless you know your value, you won&#x27;t make a significant amount of money to justify the time you put in. Which leads me to point #4:<p>4. If you still don&#x27;t find anything to do for profit, try offering your skills to a non-profit organization that would benefit a lot from your skills. For their website, or an internal app. These projects are sometimes fun to do and you can get some valuable experience in an interesting tech you like, in a project that you know will be useful and meaningful to others.<p><i></i>Don&#x27;t:<i></i><p>1. ...say yes too often.<p>2. ...under-estimate the time it would take to finish up the project.<p>3. ...ignore your gut feeling when starting a relationship with people. Bad people don&#x27;t look that bad on first impression.<p>Good luck!
DoreenMichele大约 7 年前
Once a month on the first, HN does a piece called &quot;Freelancer &#x2F; Seeking Freelancer.&quot; You could post to that and&#x2F;or check it for &quot;Seeking Freelancer&quot; comments.
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e_reder大约 7 年前
I&#x27;ve been in the freelance game for the last five years.<p>If you&#x27;re based in the US or Europe I wouldn&#x27;t waste my time with Freelancer.com or Upwork. The competition for jobs on these platforms is usually too high.<p>Here are my best resources for finding freelance jobs:<p>1. And Co&#x27;s gig list And Co is a true life saver for me as a freelancer. Their app is 100% free and does everything I need: invoicing, contracts, payments, time tracking, etc.<p>They send out a weekly newsletter with lots of opportunities from all over the internet. It&#x27;s kind of a hidden gem. Lots of value &gt;&gt; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.and.co&#x2F;gig-list" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.and.co&#x2F;gig-list</a><p>2. Angel List<p>3. Remote.io<p>However, there are lots and lots of other platforms. I recommend you look at this article <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.and.co&#x2F;freelance-jobs" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.and.co&#x2F;freelance-jobs</a>
ollerac大约 7 年前
Be helpful, polite, and talk to people. This can be on an online forum, group chat, or in person. If you are genuinely helpful and polite, you will form relationships, which can eventually lead to jobs.<p>It&#x27;s precisely when you&#x27;re not trying to find work that the wildest opportunities will come to you.
aantix大约 7 年前
No network? No incoming leads from LinkedIn&#x2F;Website&#x2F;Github?<p>Go direct. You ask. Find the VP&#x2F;CEO&#x2F;Senior engineer, and ask them.
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ttoinou大约 7 年前
I am in the exact opposite situation right now : how do I find a C system freelancer ?
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tpae大约 7 年前
I&#x27;m actually in need of a react native developer, if anyone is interested, drop me a line at: tpae@superteam.io
mgav大约 7 年前
Consider volunteering for relevant work at a non-profit you care about (especially if the executives, volunteers or Board members are connected to organizations that interest you).
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HeyLaughingBoy大约 7 年前
Start by turning all those &quot;I don&#x27;ts&quot; into &quot;I do&#x27;s.&quot;
gk1大约 7 年前
See: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gkogan.co&#x2F;blog&#x2F;how-i-learned-to-get-consulting-leads&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gkogan.co&#x2F;blog&#x2F;how-i-learned-to-get-consulting-l...</a><p>TL;DR - I tried out networking but it didn&#x27;t work for me. Instead what&#x27;s worked very well is writing educational content about the topic I&#x27;m an expert in. People often search for a solution to a problem before they decide to hire someone else to just do it for them. If they find your instructions for solving that problem, they might think &quot;Why don&#x27;t I just pay this person to do it for me? They&#x27;ll probably do it better and faster.&quot;
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cekanoni大约 7 年前
But the question is what website beside the upwork and frelance you can use to find jobs related to network&#x2F;system administration ?
hellbanner大约 7 年前
Mostly referrals. Though now I&#x27;m looking for something more stable and am expanding my searches through Linked In, Gunio &amp; Stack Overflow career this weekend.<p>(10 years doing iOS, Android, React, Javascript, Ruby and more recently Erlang + Smart Contract programming, if any of this interests you&#x2F;your corp reply with a contact page!)
gmcerveny大约 7 年前
I&#x27;m a full-time freelancer and I&#x27;m super specific on my niche, new music technology. I find that works pretty well. Sometimes I&#x27;m applying for gigs, sometimes folks just cold email me, and sometimes people refer others my way. But being a specialist seems to be the one thing that works best for me.
justinzollars大约 7 年前
I have a FT job, but I&#x27;ve maintained a website on S3 for a client for a few years now.<p>I charged quite a bit up front, and now charge a yearly maintenance fee.<p>Honestly, its best to focus on your FT job and not spread yourself too thin. Enjoy your time off or contribute to open source with your free time.
greg_____ory大约 7 年前
I find that meeting my clients face to face before engaging goes a long way for both of us.<p>In the times I haven’t made time to do this, I feel like a robot receiving endless requests. I don’t think they remember I’m a real person.<p>Eye contact and a handshake go a long way.
pknerd大约 7 年前
I used to be a freelancer, work as a remote contractor for a US based company.<p>The conventional and shortcut way is to find jobs on upwork, freelancer.com etc, the difficult but rewarding route is to introduce yourself as an authority for the thing you want to be hired. The best way to do is to put profile online and write SEO optimized blog posts.<p>&lt;shameless_plug&gt; I wrote a blog post on this matter which you can read here: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.adnansiddiqi.me&#x2F;5-ways-developers-can-have-multiple-income-streams&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.adnansiddiqi.me&#x2F;5-ways-developers-can-have-multi...</a> &lt;&#x2F;shameless_plug&gt;
parallel_item大约 7 年前
Folks hate on Upwork.com but I have used it to secure and build good long-term relationships. Once the relationships grew we could take it offline to a more formal relationship. Because I started my career as an accountant, I have been able to start 2 of these relationships as an accountant and move over to data analysis.<p>A good note to include is I do this part-time while working full-time and don&#x27;t think I could simply expand this contract deal flow to fill a full time schedule if I needed to. I also have ruined a relationship early on by not respecting the part-time work enough and slowing down the folk&#x27;s timeline.
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megablast大约 7 年前
&gt; I&#x27;m a software engineer with a full-time job, but I have lots of spare time in my off hours.<p>You are a SE, you are in the best position ever to work on your own projects, create your own startup, implementing your own ideas.
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bbimbop大约 7 年前
Agree with taprun. It is easier to communicate when you are specific. What do you build or like to build? Lots of people would like to work with an engineer like you on projects, myself being one.
bsaul大约 7 年前
Reading your question makes me wonder if you&#x27;re tackling the correct issue.<p>- Why do you feel the need to work on the side to &quot;leverage your skills&quot; ? Your fulltime job should give you this opportunity.<p>- Why do you want to work with computers on your spare time ? Spare time is also a way to broaden your horizon. Go try new things, meet new people from different fields, etc. The fact that you describe yourself as having poor networking skills makes me wonder if you haven&#x27;t spent a bit too much time alone in a front of a computer already.
nikkwong大约 7 年前
Find opportunities to plug what you have in places that are relevant. Every so often HN has threads where I talk about my experience with web design at www.beaver.digital, and it always lands me tons of work. I&#x27;d recommend just hanging out in internet communities that are interesting to you and that potentially have people that can hire you, like this one. I&#x27;m secretly terrible at networking, but that surprisingly has not been an issue whatsoever.
tomcooks大约 7 年前
Here&#x27;s the method I used to build myself a consultancy business: buy a 9.90€ suit jacket at h&amp;m, a 0.80€ pen and a moleskine notebook.<p>Wake up at 7 the next day, start knocking doors and sell your services to every business in town; the trick is that you can&#x27;t go home and eat until you have at least a prospect client.<p>Don&#x27;t cold call, don&#x27;t send emails, don&#x27;t print business cards. Knock doors while looking professional and competent, you&#x27;ll get clients soon.
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mirimir大约 7 年前
As other have said, I initially found clients through work. And eventually, I found more through reputation, and word of mouth.<p>Initially, I billed at about twice my salary, to account for overhead. But I eventually realized that even that was less than half of typical consulting rates. So I gradually increased my billing rate, and redefined my old rate as that for established clients. And then I gradually ratcheted that up as well. But I did lose some old clients.
scrollaway大约 7 年前
When I do freelance (which is never these days), Codementor (affiliate link): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.codementor.io&#x2F;i&#x2F;3tiesmnbt9" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.codementor.io&#x2F;i&#x2F;3tiesmnbt9</a><p>HackHands is pretty fun too (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hackhands.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hackhands.com</a>) but very short term stuff and very low volume. If you have spare time it&#x27;s nice though.
fecak大约 7 年前
Let the work find you. One method is to turn on the &quot;notify recruiters you are open&quot; on LinkedIn (a toggle under Jobs) and write a note saying you want contract work. The setting is about a year old, and it notifies recruiters that are searching for candidates that you are open to listening.<p>You can also set filters for location, contract vs perm, size of company, and set a personal note on what you are open to.
nurettin大约 7 年前
&gt;&gt; I&#x27;m a software engineer with a full-time job, but I have lots of spare time in my off hours<p>I have a contract in my current workplace which lets me bill off-hours (they also pay for my taxi costs when I work late, they also pay double during holidays) so I am happily not taking any side jobs. Your day job can become your night job if you can produce more work off-hours for them.
benatkin大约 7 年前
There&#x27;s a job channel for React on the Reactiflux Discord server. I think there&#x27;s also one on the Apollo slack community, and I&#x27;ve seen them in other places too. I don&#x27;t know how effective they are because I&#x27;m trying to get my project further along before posting to them.
mancerayder大约 7 年前
It&#x27;s an excellent question.<p>I&#x27;m learning that now.<p>Basically it boils down to either<p>1. Using job boards &#x2F; LinkedIn and going through recruiters, many of whom have a contract department.<p>Here&#x27;s the problem. Many recruiters misrepresent to YOU what the client requirement is. I found myself in situations where the client was interested but all along they wanted a temp-to-hire &#x2F; contract-to-hire (do NOT do this on principle even if you are gunning for full time work!), while I seek pure contracts &#x2F; long-term contracts.<p>Here&#x27;s the bigger problem. Recruiters &#x2F; agencies take a <i></i>huge<i></i> cut. We&#x27;re talking 40-60% or more. So if you want 120 bucks an hour, the client would see a bill for 180 an hour.<p>Let&#x27;s take a step back and think about that. If the client is ready to pay close to 180 or a bit below, that means that you can charge a much higher rate than 120. You can charge, say, 140, and still the client is happy with the cost.<p>But it&#x27;s very difficult because this requires relationships with senior people in companies. This brings me to number 2.<p>2. Networking. I don&#x27;t think here we&#x27;re talking about going to a Meetup or a tech conference and flashing business cards. Maybe that&#x27;ll work (please tell me it worked for someone and I&#x27;ll do it). What it REALLY means is all those managers of your past, those people you really got along with in those jobs you had in the past (and you DID have a bunch of jobs in the past, right, hopefully not just one!), those people are potential sources of contract. Some hiring managers can convince their managers they need a contractor -- I did it as a hiring manager once, and one of my ex-bosses did it to re-hire me.<p>I think LinkedIn is the Facebook of the business world for that. While in Facebook you have to suffer people&#x27;s baby pics and food pictures so that friends and family don&#x27;t forget your exist, in LinkedIn you suffer platitudes about hard work and Leadership and Important Thoughts -- so that your ex co-workers and employers don&#x27;t forget you exist.<p>I tried using HN and people I knew personally for tiny, one-off, small projects and it was a total nightmare. Inconsistent, cheap, and a lot of overhead. There&#x27;s so much talking and meeting and phone calls and such for which I never billed, for work that never materialized or (might still&#x2F;will) materialize.<p>Networking is key and I&#x27;d love to hear some tips here!
askari01大约 7 年前
finding freelance work is easy, depends how much and what kind of work you want to do. fiver to upwork &amp; freelance... but you will miss exploring new stuff. but side project will turn you into a machine, if you don&#x27;t find something interesting or aligning with your interests. Must charge more than normal day time. I do it just for fun and don&#x27;t charge much but i only do it to buy stuff online as my bank account doesn&#x27;t support buying books, games &amp; apps online. (i don&#x27;t take more than an hour work)
goatherders大约 7 年前
I Work alone and make sure I do awesome work for a reasonable fee. Working alone keeps costs low. Awesome work keeps referrals high. Reasonable fee keeps repeat business coming in.
mathattack大约 7 年前
100% through people I’ve worked with before. (Finding work is not hard if you have a good reputation but very hard before you’ve built one.)
zachguo大约 7 年前
UpWork, given your situation. And start building up your Github, LinkedIn or Blog to boost your online presence.
stallieman大约 7 年前
Get involved in your local community (politics). You should get a lot of IT jobs, where you can make a name for yourself. Also, you can attribute to linux, by fixing and helping with the bugs and the kernel. When being a freelancer, you should be a bit more high profile than you are now?
nickjj大约 7 年前
If you&#x27;re curious, I wrote a post[0] quite some time ago that covers a few things you could do to start a successful freelance business without any prior network.<p>The TL;DR is to goto local meetups and talk to people in the street while avoiding freelancing marketplaces like the plague. That&#x27;s how I mostly started freelancing 20 years ago and it&#x27;s what I still do today.<p>You don&#x27;t need a portfolio or anything to start getting clients.<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nickjanetakis.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;how-to-start-a-successful-freelance-business-as-a-software-developer" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nickjanetakis.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;how-to-start-a-successful-fre...</a>
captnphilip大约 7 年前
Easy, send us an email: hello@recurpal.com
jaequery大约 7 年前
you might want to try Upwork if you haven&#x27;t.
dohertyjf大约 7 年前
CodeMentor.io FreeeUp.com Upwork.com Fiverrr.com (not just $5 gigs) Codeable.io<p>Do you need more?
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